2nd Encounter of the Day.... Over guns this time

[Oneka]

78. who is "our"

It's obvious gun owners don't care about our rights one wit

how could you possibly get that impression, most gun owners i know are active in advocating for 1st 2nd 4th and 5th amendment rights, and several not enumerated in the bill of rights , like privacy. The NRA does not speak for all gun owners, nor do most gun owners support it, financially.
Attempting to separate gun owners and non gun owners, along lines of which rights they want protected is deceptive, at best.

Besides, the constitution provides for the right of government to regulate firearms. Read the Second Amendment.

The second amendment does no such thing, it was written to expressly forbid the government from infringing on my already existing right to keep and bear arms.
the bill of rights gives no rights to government it was written to forbid government from certain acts, that threaten some of our natural preexisting rights , nothing more nothing less.

I said nothing about taking away your guns.

And i am not afraid. If you don't want baseless facts said about you here , please refrain from doing the same to me. BTW i never said you wanted to take away my guns, did i?

There is no proposal on the table to take away your guns. Why must you repeat paranoid, right-wing conspiracy theories?

Who in the blue blazes is here repeating any conspiracy theories, be they right wing or, paranoid? Again, see above, and please refrain from attributing words to me, that were not written by me.

Now that you mention proposals to take away my guns, here is one, https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0241.0.html&session=ls88, and it's on the proverbial table, and though it doesn't expressly take away my guns, it may as well, for all intents and purposes.

I'm sorry you feel the word is such a dangerous place than an adult male can't handle himself without guns. I don't know how that can come from anything but fear. If you were not afraid, you wouldn't feel the need to "be prepared." Here I am a middle-aged woman, living in the inner city, and I get along fine equipped only with my mind.

I used to have a brother who used the same argument on me about seat belts, back in my younger days. I was employed at an auto salvage yard at the time and saw tremendous damage to cars that came into the yard. In most of the cars i noticed something, if the driver had been wearing his seat belt, there was room for him/her to survive in the driver seat. On august 15th 1990 my 26 year old brother who i loved dearly, was killed in an horrific auto accident, when he hit, head on, a logging truck, with no seat belt on.
Do i fear driving? No. Do i wear seat belts? Always.
I have also in my life seen violence visited on family members, does that cause fear, not really,it happens to be incredibly rare, but being unprepared for violence is just stupid to me, when my family's life is at stake.
I have lived my 43 years without using my firearms to defend myself , using just my mind if you will, and i also travel through inner cities quite often, likely the same one you live in, if my powers of deduction are half as good as i think they are. I hope that you live well and safely, for the rest of your days in whatever manner you wish. I only wish the same for me,and all who wish to carry a firearm for self defense, unhindered by the machinations of those who don't feel safe because we carry a gun for our own protection.
You see, that is the difference between gun owners and folks who wish to have more controls on gun owners.

You may not see the advocacy for other causes and rights on this board, that does not mean that my advocacy doesn't exist. But i choose to fight for all rights for ALL people, not just the ones i happen to be comfortable with.