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cali

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6. wow. could you possibly set the bar for "hero" any lower?
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:26 AM
Feb 2013

she was a rude little twit. He was not abusive. She was not friendly. His questions about the value of her jewelry were appropriate. Her responses were not.

Whatever his past may be, that dimwit deserved her comeuppance by the court.

You can do better for heroes Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #1
She reminds me of myself when I was 18 reorg Feb 2013 #4
The judge was old and crotchety Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #22
I support the 30 day "Time Out" approach. FarPoint Feb 2013 #32
True Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #34
30 days is excessive for the finger CreekDog Feb 2013 #68
Nonsense pipoman Feb 2013 #72
perhaps excessive for the finger Animal Chin Feb 2013 #94
I dunno, man. Iggo Feb 2013 #128
I agree with you, CreekDog Carolina Feb 2013 #286
He is a Repuke. LAGC Feb 2013 #299
Yeah, old people suck jberryhill Feb 2013 #78
Been a lot of "old-bashing" lately oberliner Feb 2013 #140
Some of the old-bashers had better hope they live long enough to be called old. n/t RebelOne Feb 2013 #180
Crotchety people rule actually Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #328
Don't underestimate the dangers of Xanax... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #301
I'm so sorry to hear that. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #308
You're very kind. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #309
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter. OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #316
Thank you for your kindness. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #317
Happy Valentine's Day :) Aerows Feb 2013 #318
You are too sweet! Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #319
You're very welcome OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #325
She was bipolar... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #327
Oh gosh OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #331
Again, Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #332
I have not OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #333
Quite true Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #5
has it occurred to you that it was not her intention reorg Feb 2013 #10
No, actually, it hadn't occured to me that she might be deliberately trying to hurt it Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #60
or maybe in some situations reorg Feb 2013 #70
LOL! Your youth worship is hilarious Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #91
I detect two or three persons in that picture reorg Feb 2013 #273
That's why those kids are wearing ponchos labeled "Granny Peace Brigade." nt MADem Feb 2013 #276
the granny in the middle could be my daughter reorg Feb 2013 #278
Sure; whatever you say. nt MADem Feb 2013 #281
You seem to have a well developed ability to classify and reduce people to cartoonish stereotypes Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #296
She wasn't "taking a stand"....she doesnt seem smart enough to "take a stand" blueamy66 Feb 2013 #111
In other words, young people who want to be treated like adults... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #143
No pipoman Feb 2013 #73
That one cost her $5K, Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #97
Insolence caused the judge to double it. pipoman Feb 2013 #98
Saying adios is insolence? Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #101
Since it added to her already insolent behavior.. pipoman Feb 2013 #106
I'll go with the 2nd judge, who already reversed that decision. Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #116
Did you watch the videos? pipoman Feb 2013 #124
I appreciate what you are saying, but I do not see a lawyer there to coach or assist her. Sivafae Feb 2013 #159
Interesting point reorg Feb 2013 #239
All that could be believable pipoman Feb 2013 #249
It's not supposed to be OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #320
I suspect her appointed lawyer was in the courtroom pipoman Feb 2013 #248
I actually did watch the videos Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #184
I don't think I was clear... Sivafae Feb 2013 #214
I'm not sure I can draw a conclusion either way based on the video. However... Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #216
But I know for a fact that prisoners defacto7 Feb 2013 #232
If that's the case, there's an opportunity for a class action lawsuit. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #235
Wow.. defacto7 Feb 2013 #238
It is a very common practice all over the country--has been for years, now. MADem Feb 2013 #277
We could save even more money and manpower by doing away with the trial Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #297
Well, that's just not helpful, nor does it make sense. MADem Feb 2013 #305
Yes let's do away with pesky old things like the constitution Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #307
Yes, because arraignments are "against the Constitution." MADem Feb 2013 #311
Ooooh, insolence. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #161
Exactly...that's a pretty low bar for someone to look up to...nt joeybee12 Feb 2013 #109
So, you don't want contempt of court to be punishable? Recursion Feb 2013 #2
it's all about the context reorg Feb 2013 #7
Which is what? Coyote_Tan Feb 2013 #14
I already addressed it reorg Feb 2013 #26
that little twit is the smirking, sniggering jerk. cali Feb 2013 #37
Lol, hang her! what a joke! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #47
right. that's just what I said, disingenuous genious. cali Feb 2013 #75
As opposed to sending her home in a limousine with a bag of money... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #167
30 days in jail? what do you hope she learned? how to get more drugs? CreekDog Feb 2013 #71
So I guess you'd be more sympathetic to the judge if he was handsome? onenote Feb 2013 #43
I suspect he would act in a different way if he were reorg Feb 2013 #54
Interesting long-distance diagnoses... much like "Doctor" Frist did. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #168
OMG OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #170
Oh. this reply says it all... lunamagica Feb 2013 #181
Not really reorg Feb 2013 #247
Let me buy you a clue onenote Feb 2013 #236
My point was reorg Feb 2013 #245
apparently DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #283
And young. Matariki Feb 2013 #243
No, No she didn't at all.. pipoman Feb 2013 #61
Fully cooperated? OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #166
He had her at a disadvantage. He knew it, or ought to have known. Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #234
No, she had herself OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #254
You are missing the point COMPLETELY Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #289
Oh for goodness sake .... OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #315
not 30 days for the finger CreekDog Feb 2013 #69
No, she was flipping off a hateful asshole. People like him are an embarrassment to the court. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #100
For raising her bail? Recursion Feb 2013 #103
I don't like when people use positions of power to talk down to people and expect respect in return. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #108
See, here's the deal... pipi_k Feb 2013 #125
I'm not sure what some of these "the judge was a harsh prick" posters want or expect. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #198
Some of these posters just hate judges ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #218
Ok OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #172
The contempt was begun by the judge, not the girl. Lionessa Feb 2013 #139
I disagree; the contempt started with the girl treating court like a joke. X_Digger Feb 2013 #146
No, nooo defacto7 Feb 2013 #237
Exactly Carolina Feb 2013 #288
She's like a modern-day Rosa Parks. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #3
No, more like Nathan Hale Peregrine Feb 2013 #16
Nathan Hale is "I regret that I only have one life to give (or lose) for my country" alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #35
+1 Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #41
wow. could you possibly set the bar for "hero" any lower? cali Feb 2013 #6
Unrec. Sorry that your hatred of authority clouds your judgment of what a hero is. FSogol Feb 2013 #8
You're hero is a drug addict who had illegal drugs? vaberella Feb 2013 #9
so what if 18 year olds experiment with pills reorg Feb 2013 #12
If I had an 18 who experimented with drugs and is caught by me or authorities... vaberella Feb 2013 #20
YOU are alive and kicking 40 years later FrodosPet Feb 2013 #25
Um, make that "Give me Librium or give me Meth!" - :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #118
bzzzt. could you be any more wrong? cali Feb 2013 #27
I'm at a loss as to what you are trying to say reorg Feb 2013 #31
what I said was clear, but you evidently need things explained in VERY cali Feb 2013 #36
none of which has anything to do with the topic at hand reorg Feb 2013 #42
Where was the abuse? OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #204
And who gives a flying crap OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #209
"Abuse of authority"? pipi_k Feb 2013 #303
She stood up to an 'ugly COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #76
Courage? pipi_k Feb 2013 #122
Well said!!! lunamagica Feb 2013 #188
Confusing "courage" and "stupidity" may well be validating to your point of view, LanternWaste Feb 2013 #169
Where did she get the pills? Did she steal them? lunamagica Feb 2013 #185
The girl is an moron and likely on drugs.. Coyote_Tan Feb 2013 #11
more likely withdrawal symptoms reorg Feb 2013 #19
Shows that you really have no understanding what really happens COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #81
"more likely withdrawal symptoms" Sheepshank Feb 2013 #127
Agreed. "Special Snowflake" syndrome. n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #148
More likely, Tien1985 Feb 2013 #329
Withdrawal symptoms? OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #163
I don't doubt that Ms. Soto deserved a contempt sentence of some length alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #38
I think we agree... Coyote_Tan Feb 2013 #50
We probably agree on most aspects of this alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #55
exactly n/t reorg Feb 2013 #57
The better lesson, I think... Coyote_Tan Feb 2013 #84
Congratulations, then alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #92
Doesn't she watch Judge Judy? marions ghost Feb 2013 #52
I just watched the vid where the judge sent her to a drug program cali Feb 2013 #13
and she wasn't Go Vols Feb 2013 #120
A few days in the slammer probably helped her adjust her attitude a bit. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #153
per the news article Go Vols Feb 2013 #156
He was asking about her jewelry because he was trying to determine bail. Nine Feb 2013 #15
Yes, she was cooperating reorg Feb 2013 #21
How much does your jewelry cost if they are expensive; is pretty clear. vaberella Feb 2013 #24
If you asked me how much does the stuff in my living room cost reorg Feb 2013 #28
it would take you a few hours to look in your living room Heddi Feb 2013 #158
Has it occured to anyone here that maybe she doesn't know how much her jewlery is worth because Sivafae Feb 2013 #174
seems to be a valid assumption reorg Feb 2013 #250
I think you nailed it. MADem Feb 2013 #280
So your answer would be "Rick Ross" while giggling like a schoolgirl too?? thelordofhell Feb 2013 #165
Would you respond with the name of a rap artist? Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #195
I think if she answered $20,000 Peregrine Feb 2013 #29
He was asking about her jewelry Go Vols Feb 2013 #121
I stand corrected. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #126
No, I believe the judge Seeking Serenity Feb 2013 #129
To me, there is no correct or right side here Shankapotomus Feb 2013 #17
+1 Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #219
excellent post Carolina Feb 2013 #290
lol Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #18
Trashing....3....2....1.....GONE!! nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #23
Is this satire?? Gman Feb 2013 #30
Awesome! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #33
seriously? Maine-ah Feb 2013 #39
The difference in her behaviour between the first video above and the second A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #40
one night's good sleep reorg Feb 2013 #45
No, having boundaries finally set did obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #62
Exactly. The child had probably never learned their could be consequences for acting like that. alphafemale Feb 2013 #117
Because the first judge......in the part of the video that hardly anyone saw...appointed one thelordofhell Feb 2013 #191
no, you are wrong reorg Feb 2013 #287
Yep--Tuff Luv marions ghost Feb 2013 #49
. baldguy Feb 2013 #44
Thanks for this. Of course the righteous DUers loved this girl going to jail.... Logical Feb 2013 #46
The system IS corrupt marions ghost Feb 2013 #51
1 or 2 days is a lesson, 30 days is a idiot judge! Shit, DUI drivers get no time! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #150
Not long enough marions ghost Feb 2013 #151
Blech leftynyc Feb 2013 #48
She needed a wake-up call,and got one riqster Feb 2013 #53
Wow oberliner Feb 2013 #56
A dumbass is your hero? hobbit709 Feb 2013 #58
What's that old country song? "My Heroes Have Always Been Dumbasses"? Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #265
Welcome to National Enquirer Underground. callous taoboy Feb 2013 #59
that's how I feel about most of the comments reorg Feb 2013 #64
Yes, and ALL of us are 100% WRONG and you--YOU ALONE--are the paragon of reason. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #212
lololololol obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #63
I know reorg Feb 2013 #65
Oh, she absolutely isn't "lesser known" obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #83
reorg would love the judges in the Lohan case ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #221
Yuck. You should choose better heroes. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #66
If you link insolence to heroism pipoman Feb 2013 #67
You might want to rethink your definition of 'hero.' MineralMan Feb 2013 #74
Hero....Not even close. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #77
You need to look up the definition of Hero Carnage251 Feb 2013 #79
Coming from someone with a drug addict brother - GOOD for the judge SWTORFanatic Feb 2013 #80
The bottom line marions ghost Feb 2013 #107
I rec'd this for the entertainment value. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #82
hahahahaha obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #85
Winning! Dr. Strange Feb 2013 #114
Lol. My hero has TIGER BLOOD Matariki Feb 2013 #271
I am shocked that someone who self-medicates with Xanax might behave as if she has social anxiety.nt Ian David Feb 2013 #86
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #95
I wouldn't go that far. sadbear Feb 2013 #87
So it's all good Lurker Deluxe Feb 2013 #130
Doesn't matter. sadbear Feb 2013 #131
Yeah, she's the Nelson Mandela of the 21st Century hatrack Feb 2013 #88
I thought she was quite disrespectful. bigwillq Feb 2013 #89
Excellent, thorough and factual post. rug Feb 2013 #90
it virtually fact free. OPINION. Learn the difference between fact and opinion cali Feb 2013 #112
An opinion that disregards facts and context is worthless. rug Feb 2013 #132
I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? deutsey Feb 2013 #93
Hero? HappyMe Feb 2013 #96
That judge is an asshole... and I question any sentences handed down by such a crabby prick. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #99
Not been in many courtrooms, eh? pipoman Feb 2013 #102
Judges shouldn't demand respect without earning it. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #104
Judges earn it while in their courtroom the minute they are pipoman Feb 2013 #110
don't know anything about it, I see. cali Feb 2013 #115
The Court demands respect, and should be given it obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #154
Do you have personal knowledge of his record? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #220
Obviously. Iggo Feb 2013 #133
As the person pipi_k Feb 2013 #105
Really? that's your hero? Marrah_G Feb 2013 #113
Way to set the bar low. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #119
meh, good cop, bad cop (errr, I mean judge) Sheepshank Feb 2013 #123
I wouldn't call her a hero, but I'm glad to see she's got a second hearing! nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #134
That usually happens with a CoC charge obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #155
Judges are sometimes arrogant, as are police. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #135
What the judge was doing was proving everyone is equal before the Court AngryAmish Feb 2013 #136
30 days of jail for the finger is not equal CreekDog Feb 2013 #137
True. If she was black it would be sixty. AngryAmish Feb 2013 #141
30 days for f-bombing in court is pretty standard jberryhill Feb 2013 #147
I was mortified about the responses here yesterday. It is getting harder and harder Lionessa Feb 2013 #138
What's that mean? OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #149
You seem to fail to recognize that the judge was disrespectful initially, there's not a thing Lionessa Feb 2013 #164
It wasn't the "adios" that got her 30 days, it was the "Fuck..." that did. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #175
The adios got her the $10K BS which prompted the fuck you. Lionessa Feb 2013 #210
I learned a long time ago not to lip off to judges or cops hobbit709 Feb 2013 #215
but the whole Carolina Feb 2013 #291
doesn't matter. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #292
Adios said pipi_k Feb 2013 #206
Hard truth here OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #222
Before saying a snarky "Adios" to the *Latino* judge, she tblue37 Feb 2013 #241
really? it's mortifying to see an op calling this girl a hero cali Feb 2013 #162
I think some of Ms. Soto's supporters are as stoned as she was. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #199
Or attention trolls Matariki Feb 2013 #272
THREAD. WINNER Number23 Feb 2013 #275
+1. I have little use for people with a law-and-order fetish. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #229
The judge is a jerk. Apophis Feb 2013 #142
How does that work? How did she get another hearing after having ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #144
They usually do that with CoC charges obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #157
I was surprised as well, happily, that the majority of DUers sided with the judge. nt Skip Intro Feb 2013 #145
So, does this news development displease you? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #226
No. However... Skip Intro Feb 2013 #227
You guess or you hope? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #228
Oh the drama and veiled accusations... Skip Intro Feb 2013 #231
Yes, she is quite the hero. I'm showing the video to my daughters and I'll tell them, Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #152
Like a Kardashian? marions ghost Feb 2013 #176
Oops. Did I forget my sarcasm tag? Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #194
you did marions ghost Feb 2013 #196
I must confess I only have the vaguest idea of who the Kardashians are. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #197
You know enough marions ghost Feb 2013 #211
lol obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #186
Hero? Rider3 Feb 2013 #160
"'Hero'? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #171
You have a very strange idea of "heroism". zappaman Feb 2013 #173
Firefighters are heroes. Nurses are heroes eissa Feb 2013 #177
You Really Need to Watch the Video a Few More Times - She's A Strung Out Addict - Not Hero. dballance Feb 2013 #178
It was a bail hearing -- she had to appear obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #187
As an attorney, I've had my share of judges. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #179
Agree! OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #182
I agree with 100% of what you've said steve2470 Feb 2013 #207
She's a punk who flipped off a judge. NightOwwl Feb 2013 #183
I confess, I owe this judge more than 20 days :-) Coyotl Feb 2013 #189
A great teaching tool Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #190
Wow. I cannot believe you are playing the mysogonist angle... Earth_First Feb 2013 #192
We all like OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #193
She's a Rebel Without a Clue. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #200
OK she shouldn't have flipped off the judge bluestateguy Feb 2013 #201
Perhaps she should have been charged with theft then. Seeking Serenity Feb 2013 #203
thank you, bluestateguy Carolina Feb 2013 #293
Seems to have cured her insolence pipoman Feb 2013 #300
Sorry, but anyone stupid enought to flip off a judge in the courtroom gets no sympathy from me. GumboYaYa Feb 2013 #202
I watched the video and while the judge may be a crotchety old crank Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #205
she reminds me of a Drugged out version of Snookie, Kardashians etc JI7 Feb 2013 #208
What a poor choice of heroes. If you want a case of a really fucked up judge getting righteously Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #213
Abusive? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #217
This woman shouldn't be anyones hero yeahitsme72 Feb 2013 #223
Welcome to DU! Recursion Feb 2013 #224
+1000 dballance Feb 2013 #261
He certainly isn't a good representation of good Court room decorum. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #225
Lame hero. bayareamike Feb 2013 #230
You're serious? Matariki Feb 2013 #233
The judge is Cuban, her jail record lists her as white. The 'adios' comes off as rude and racist. Matariki Feb 2013 #240
I suspected he is reorg Feb 2013 #244
You "suspected he is one of those Cuban exiles" ??? Matariki Feb 2013 #251
You brought it up reorg Feb 2013 #255
Her rap sheet says she's white. Whatever she is, she's a little asshole. Matariki Feb 2013 #256
sorry, I'm unfamiliar with her "rap sheet" reorg Feb 2013 #264
You've shown yourself to be racist, ageist, and 'lookist' through this whole thread Matariki Feb 2013 #267
So *I* am the racist now? reorg Feb 2013 #269
"one of those" Renew Deal Feb 2013 #257
huh? reorg Feb 2013 #262
Really? You don't know? Do you also say "you people" to minorities? Matariki Feb 2013 #263
methinks you are trying to deflect reorg Feb 2013 #266
What I didn't bring up is "one of those" - what the hell kind of racist shit is that Matariki Feb 2013 #258
But of the judge's accent you say: Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #314
I would have tossed her ass in jail as well dlwickham Feb 2013 #242
I showed this video to my students today the devil Feb 2013 #246
Yes, be very afraid, obey, conform, submit. After all, those are the principles this Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #253
No, those aren't the principles this country was founded on. bayareamike Feb 2013 #259
Of course you are right, and this woman is no hero. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #323
A Black kid doesn't do what you scorn and he's dead. vaberella Feb 2013 #295
You're right, see #323 Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #324
Nobody said pipi_k Feb 2013 #302
Spoken like a well conditioned authoritarian. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #321
It looks like the judges tactics worked Renew Deal Feb 2013 #252
I once had a little dog reorg Feb 2013 #260
I'm glad the judge cared enough to cite her for contempt DevonRex Feb 2013 #268
You really should aim higher GObamaGO Feb 2013 #270
What would Judge Judy do? LeftInTX Feb 2013 #274
Unfortunately in some cases, no matter how mad you are at a judge, no matter how insane JDPriestly Feb 2013 #279
Judge is a jerk with attitude who picks on girls. A waste of our tax dollars!!! anneboleyn Feb 2013 #282
Thank you Carolina Feb 2013 #294
She's not a girl. Nine Feb 2013 #310
Actually... pipi_k Feb 2013 #313
she's a tweaker Motley Michelle Feb 2013 #284
SHE'S your hero? Dorian Gray Feb 2013 #285
The way she was giggling and playing with her hair... cherish44 Feb 2013 #298
Overnight in jail contimplating a 30 day sentence whistler162 Feb 2013 #304
"hero" WTF ...adding her to the list of football players and race car drivers. Pfffft. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #306
Just adding to the similar comments Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #312
Good for the judge rjj621 Feb 2013 #322
Everybody loves the underdog... Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #326
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #330
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