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Bonobo

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2. Missing the point.

Reply to Jersey Devil (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:28 AM

Feb 2013

It isn't about the method of assassination itself.

It is about the POTUS claiming the power to make the determination of what individuals are targeted and what the limits of that authority are.

Do people have a right to know they are about to be assassinated (no)? Do they have a right to defend themselves (no), proclaim innocence (no)?

Does evidence need to be shown (no)? Can the assassinations be done anywhere in the world (yes).

Will the next president inherit these powers? (yes)

"But I trust Obama to try to minimize the casualties among innocents as much as possible."

Great. What about George Bush?

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My 2 cents on drones [View all] Jersey Devil Feb 2013 OP

Our nation has a terrifying capacity for destruction. Robb Feb 2013 #1

What is "better"? Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #4

Refusing to believe all options necessarily include war, for one. Robb Feb 2013 #5

Well yes, and I thought that was part of what I said Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #14

Missing the point. Bonobo Feb 2013 #2

Wonder how this all pans out with the geneva convention? (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #3

Let's see - grade the "morality" of drones vs flying planes into buildings under Geneva Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #6

Congratulations. Bonobo Feb 2013 #7

The point is that the Geneva Convention is fiction Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #12

The Geneva Convention was entered into by participants who had conventional warfare in mind and how politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2013 #16

Is "conventional" necessarily moral? Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #20

When have we ever been the greatest democracy on Earth? Our history is filled with a long list JaneyVee Feb 2013 #13

So we need to be more like them. Got it. (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #9

The point is not missed. There can be no morality in immorality Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #8

My point was though The Straight Story Feb 2013 #11

Someone pointed out that the Alabama nutbag, Dykes, was executed without a trial. randome Feb 2013 #18

To place trust in Obama to make the right decisions is to do the same with his predecessors sellitman Feb 2013 #10

Your argument is conditioned on liking who is pulling the trigger. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #15

Why would using drones be any different than any other way of fighting? Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #17

The issue is that the POTUS has appointed himself judge, jury, and executioner Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #19

No, that's not what Obama has done Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #21

That "pack of wolves" has sometimes been a wedding. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #23

that had to do with bad intel, not drones Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #24

The CIA would like you to believe this is all about the technical problems of assymetrical warfare HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #22