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kentauros

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17. Okay, I thought you meant engines only,

Reply to phantom power (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:00 PM

Feb 2013

and not the whole power system

I have no idea about the mileage calculations. I'll leave that to those of y'all that know this stuff better

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MPGs. What happened? [View all] tjnite Feb 2013 OP

we got addicted to increased size and also increased HP phantom power Feb 2013 #1

Hybrid cars often have small engines rated under 100hp. kentauros Feb 2013 #10

sure, but the total power train output is substantially higher phantom power Feb 2013 #15

Okay, I thought you meant engines only, kentauros Feb 2013 #17

Those 1960s Beetles were around 1600lbs. EOTE Feb 2013 #26

It didn't even have a gas gage, although it did have a nifty little reserve tank. Bandit Feb 2013 #18

Creature comforts, sound deadening and especially electronics had a huge impact kysrsoze Feb 2013 #35

Diesel? Higher particulates, more expensive engines Recursion Feb 2013 #2

I've had three vehicles with diessel engines and I'm definitely not military...just sayin'. nt snappyturtle Feb 2013 #3

I had an awesome diesel Mercedes. Had to push a button on the engine to make it stop running Recursion Feb 2013 #4

Diesels have cleaner emissions tjnite Feb 2013 #6

Lower *carbon* emissions. Higher particulates Recursion Feb 2013 #9

It is a trade-off between the benefits of gasoline vs. diesel. kentauros Feb 2013 #11

Particulates are relatively easy to deal with and Diesel engines are inherently more efficient. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #24

Car manufacturers got caught greatly "overstating" their MPG claims back in the 1970s-1980s... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #5

Backlash against diesel. Brickbat Feb 2013 #7

Getting better all the time. bluedigger Feb 2013 #8

Americans were not fond of the low horsepower engines. Robb Feb 2013 #12

You needed the smokescreen sharp_stick Feb 2013 #16

"Low speed and a smokescreen; I was universally despised." workinclasszero Feb 2013 #21

Duh duh duh-nah duh-nah duh-nah... Recursion Feb 2013 #27

Vehicle weight, safety features, and ethanol madville Feb 2013 #13

^^^^^^^This Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #25

The C7 should come in at around 3000 lbs. EOTE Feb 2013 #30

I'm in the office now, but in the March '13 C+D interview with the Corvette team Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #32

Ronald Reagan. n/t trackfan Feb 2013 #14

I had a 1981 Plymouth Horizon Miser TC3 in mid-80's, got 45 mpg hwy, 35 city. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #19

Here's a Hummer of a reason PLUS a tax break! think Feb 2013 #20

6,000 lbs? Wow aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #23

We covered the car show nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #22

EPA tests now report more realistic and lower fuel economy predictions Kolesar Feb 2013 #28

Finishing up an antique Nissan Z (very slowly because money is tight) that gets better mileage Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #29

I Had A Black 1984 Turbo That Kicked Ass! HangOnKids Feb 2013 #31

It was an exceptionally well designed and well built car. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #33

Higher safety requirements Higher emissions standards kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #34