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liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
58. okay I just got my sanity back thanks to the stories of those
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:01 AM
Feb 2013

who have gone on to success despite not doing well in math or learning it later on, but I can't take many more posts defending the policies that every child must learn exactly the same thing at exactly the same time. So, I want to thank those who posted their stories. You really have helped me. Now, I think for my sanity's sake I better trash this thread.

"We're dumbing down, dumb-de-dumb-dumb..." derby378 Feb 2013 #1
No, we are not. We are preventing more students to be tracked into special ed when they don't need duffyduff Feb 2013 #70
What on earth are they thinking??? Do they not want CA HS graduates to get into good universities?? kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #2
did you not notice the part about Common Core, the new national standards developed by Bill Gates HiPointDem Feb 2013 #25
" Do they not want CA HS graduates to get into good universities??" That's The True Reason Yavin4 Feb 2013 #59
Not very smart. calimary Feb 2013 #3
We had three years of algebra. PADemD Feb 2013 #4
In Iowa less than half of our 8th exboyfil Feb 2013 #5
At my junior high all eighth graders took algebra 1 alp227 Feb 2013 #13
I was in the California system exboyfil Feb 2013 #16
my daughter's friend is taking Cal II, my daughter is taking pre-Cal liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #21
You aren't very old. How many students couldn't master the material? How many duffyduff Feb 2013 #71
This is the computer age. Every child needs to understand algebra. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #39
Baloney. duffyduff Feb 2013 #72
My daughters came out of elementary school in a very good school exboyfil Feb 2013 #78
algebra is one of those skills that is developmental cally Feb 2013 #6
All skills are developmental TM99 Feb 2013 #30
what is wrong with treating people like individuals? liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #31
Nothing at all, however, TM99 Feb 2013 #40
Extremely well said. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #55
Heck, the number of DU posters lacking in critical thinking and logic skills makes me sad sometimes. X_Digger Feb 2013 #62
How did she make it through the CA school system without taking Algebra? Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #82
The young lady in question TM99 Feb 2013 #83
Not true in most states. Algebra is ABSOLUTELY inappropriate for most middle school students. duffyduff Feb 2013 #69
Oh good god! TM99 Feb 2013 #76
FOIL/binomials foiled me... tridim Feb 2013 #66
Exactly. People who think this change is bad don't understand education or child development. duffyduff Feb 2013 #67
It is taught wrong. I say this decades after I suffered zonkers Feb 2013 #92
And a bunch of DUers will come along to defend this, Codeine Feb 2013 #7
Talk to Bill Gates about it, because he's the main force behind THE NEW NATIONAL STANDARDS, HiPointDem Feb 2013 #27
We're in, gasp, Tennessee and my son is already in pre-calculus Fawke Em Feb 2013 #8
assuming he is in a class with other 8th graders dsc Feb 2013 #12
Agreed. musical_soul Feb 2013 #23
The all seem fine and yes, they are "honors" students Fawke Em Feb 2013 #84
there is also the problem of just what math will they be taking in high school dsc Feb 2013 #86
that should be a choice for students that are ready for it liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #26
Tennessee, just like California, has adopted Common Core. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #28
*Everyone* who "hated" or "couldn't do" algebra, had a bad teacher. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #9
I have to disagree with that liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #24
A good chunk of the 7th graders in our school take algebra. MissB Feb 2013 #10
the irony burns dsc Feb 2013 #11
I didn't see algebra until the 9th grade, either. GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #46
thank you. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #49
Well, your son has a couple natural advantages Bradical79 Feb 2013 #74
Of course, your son has a chance. GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #81
You have two science degrees? Bradical79 Feb 2013 #64
Yes. I do. And, I understand the concept of anecdotal data. GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #80
Yeah, apparently they don't teach statistics and correlation v causation in HS either ;) n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #53
The idea is it's the way to get to the Calculus by 12th grade Recursion Feb 2013 #63
Our descent towards Idiocracy continues. Initech Feb 2013 #14
I took algebra in 8th grade AnnieBW Feb 2013 #15
Adoelscent brain development is well-known. amandabeech Feb 2013 #37
thank you for your story liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #47
I had it in 7th grade, with physics, chemistry and biology nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #17
We started laundry_queen Feb 2013 #90
Americans, on purpoise, are dumbing down. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #91
I was an eighth-grader in CA in 1984. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #18
That is a mistake bluestateguy Feb 2013 #19
wait, what? Most states offer an alternative? liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #20
Nothing to do with what states are doing individually. If they adopted common core (& 45 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #29
Some students are not ready for Algebra in eighth grade. musical_soul Feb 2013 #22
Just curious, at what grade do they start separating the "gifted" from the others where you are? hughee99 Feb 2013 #85
Oh shit...that means Rick Perry will Rex Feb 2013 #32
Bad, bad decision. Elementary algebra provides students a gentle introduction to abstract thought. entanglement Feb 2013 #33
for those who want to take it they should have the choice to take it liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #34
Most 8th grade students should be able to take elementary algebra and entanglement Feb 2013 #35
yeah, most is the key word liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #36
you don't seem to get it. you seem to think this is california's individual choice. no, it's not. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #38
Not surprising, and this is but the tip of the iceberg. MadHound Feb 2013 #41
Success in algebra is linked to graduation from college? a la izquierda Feb 2013 #42
thank you very much! liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #44
I am sorry TM99 Feb 2013 #61
This is a mistake. HappyMe Feb 2013 #43
It's clear to me know why Obama has been able to get away with his stance on education liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #45
This is why we should be seperating kids by ability librabear Feb 2013 #57
I remember when those math standards were adopted in CA. LWolf Feb 2013 #48
I took algebra in the 8th grade, but it was a fight to get me in.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #50
I'm glad for you but not everybody is at that level liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #54
You're a great parent. Of course it's okay. Mariana Feb 2013 #89
I hated algebra but I think that's INSANE. aquart Feb 2013 #51
When the US is on track for #1 for "Idiocracy," why should CA get in the say. Go USA !!! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #52
The owners don't a population capable of critical thinking. They want obedient workers. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #56
Some of those obedient workers need to know trig. Sirveri Feb 2013 #87
I loved Trig, thought it was fun. But being proficient at it falls into George's category Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #88
okay I just got my sanity back thanks to the stories of those liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #58
I support this move AngryAmish Feb 2013 #60
Good news. It is developmentally inappropriate for most students. duffyduff Feb 2013 #65
Algebra was offered in 8th grade, but only for "smart" kids ceile Feb 2013 #68
I absolutely hated algebra in 8th grade. Apophis Feb 2013 #73
More race to the bottom for education. VenusRising Feb 2013 #75
i did`t have algebra in 8th grade. madrchsod Feb 2013 #77
I have an idea Livluvgrow Feb 2013 #79
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