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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
72. I'm leaning that way myself.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:59 PM
Feb 2013

But I'm waiting to see what the investigation uncovers.

Of course we'll probably never find out. These 'my teacher abused me!' stories always die out after a day or so and we never do find out if the kids' allegations lead to proof of actual abuse.

sick tk2kewl Feb 2013 #1
was she a christian? datasuspect Feb 2013 #2
Personally, I wonder if there wasn't somekind of Christian fad to "save America" by teaching in patrice Feb 2013 #55
Your theory appears to lie in tatters Union Scribe Feb 2013 #64
Anecdotal evidence is only anecdotal evidence. Here's some anecdotal evidence of my own: patrice Feb 2013 #71
I might also mention that you obviously don't know how theories are validated, or not, by means patrice Feb 2013 #76
However, to show you how open minded I am. I accept your criticism & propose a change in my patrice Feb 2013 #78
You're always as nasty to me as you can be. Care to state your problem with me out in the open? nt patrice Feb 2013 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author patrice Feb 2013 #81
For example, why didn't #2 rate your bile? nt patrice Feb 2013 #84
Speaking of "villainizing", wouldn't it have been better to ASK me my attitude toward Christianity? patrice Feb 2013 #90
FFS pal, get it together. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #185
shades of Dolores Umbridge nt justabob Feb 2013 #3
You beat me to it! nt longship Feb 2013 #23
I was thinking the same thing dlwickham Feb 2013 #82
Maybe that's where she got the idea Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #139
or maybe she got it from the US government's Head Start website. Or any one of a million other HiPointDem Feb 2013 #155
I'd make them stop at the 10th repetition Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #170
The video shows the card with directions. FIVE TIMES for each word they missed on a spelling HiPointDem Feb 2013 #176
You didn't see the part where the kids were told to do five sessions of tracing each word 5 times a Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #201
no, i just saw it misreported as such in the media. the video shows the actual directions given HiPointDem Feb 2013 #203
If she did that she should be fired and lose her teaching credentials. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #4
That teacher is an abject moron. MineralMan Feb 2013 #5
Kindergarten and preschool teachers teach letter recognition with sandpaper proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #6
looks like *this* teacher was doing it wrong justabob Feb 2013 #8
You do realize this is based on the report from an 11 year old? proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #13
that is why I said "looks like" and "until more comes out" justabob Feb 2013 #18
Well call me strange but I'd rather have more information before calling the teacher a moron proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #28
But it ok to call the student a liar? trixie Feb 2013 #106
Because children never lie or even exaggerate? proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #108
So the poor teacher against the big bad child? trixie Feb 2013 #112
A kid who presses his finger hard enough to make it bleed. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #121
But it wasn't just one kid (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #127
where are the others? the only evidence is that *this* kid says so. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #134
Only one in the linked story. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #141
Yes, you keep saying that. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #138
See my post below, and the school spokesman said it too: The Straight Story Feb 2013 #143
Over 6 million copies sold. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #151
Depends on how it is used. If you throw it at someone it could cause harm The Straight Story Feb 2013 #154
I'm glad you brought that up. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #163
yet 3 year olds can do it without injury. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #162
If it was more than one kid gollygee Feb 2013 #142
If a kid is bleeding, you have to report it or you're in deep shit. according to the kid, she told HiPointDem Feb 2013 #148
Every. Single. Day. ~ I am told "my teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom" proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #157
You have to go to your supplies and get a fresh pair of gloves gollygee Feb 2013 #160
Not just 1 parent/student, and it was not letters but regular sandpaper The Straight Story Feb 2013 #75
I use regular sandpaper all the time in my classroom. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #80
Did they have to trace 125 words at a time? The Straight Story Feb 2013 #83
I teach younger students. I wouldn't make them do 125 words ever, even on regular paper. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #87
25 a day, and not all at once. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #98
It wasn't 125 at a time gollygee Feb 2013 #147
the assignment was to trace each missed word FIVE TIMES. NOT 125. The teacher didn't HiPointDem Feb 2013 #187
I guess I'm clueless. I don't get how sandpaper helps kids learn to read. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #85
here proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #89
maybe the wrong grit was used?? Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #10
My suspicion is that the kids pressed too hard. JVS Feb 2013 #69
I am wondering what grit was used. Maybe this teacher used 40 grit where she should have used 400. Erose999 Feb 2013 #52
60 grit according to the link appleannie1 Feb 2013 #86
It's a Montessori technique proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #7
If she left her students bleeding... yes MattBaggins Feb 2013 #11
Somewhere around 100 years of using this method and no blood yet. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #15
Not jumping to any conclusions MattBaggins Feb 2013 #16
Maybe not you proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #25
It's an accepted method for learning. madfloridian Feb 2013 #32
I've never heard of it. Control-Z Feb 2013 #57
It's called tactile learning. Also referred to as kinesthetic. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #62
Where did this go wrong here? n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #104
Well, you would hope that by 6th grade, a kid would be intelligent enough proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #107
Um, we have generations of teachers in our family trixie Feb 2013 #105
Yes, Montessori method. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #109
Montessori method? trixie Feb 2013 #113
anyone who's been in K-12 education or early childhood ed knows what montessori is. forgive HiPointDem Feb 2013 #115
Check out the prices. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #119
Why yes I do know what the "true Montessori method" is trixie Feb 2013 #204
yeah, right. i believe you, sure, that's the ticket. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #114
Generations of teachers in my family too gollygee Feb 2013 #149
Interesting. I teach at Head Start and have never seen this method used, Sadiedog Feb 2013 #122
How to use Montessori sandpaper letters: proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #124
That's interesting, since they're specifically mentioned on the government's Head Start webpage. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #137
Not all Head Start employees look at the website for curriculum ideas. Sadiedog Feb 2013 #191
of course they don't, but its inclusion suggests it's government & Head-Start-approved pedagogy. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #192
I was not saying that it wasn`t just mentioned that I had never heard of it before. nt Sadiedog Feb 2013 #198
Oh please don't bring up the shaving cream. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #199
This message was self-deleted by its author Sadiedog Feb 2013 #200
Well, it is important to check what is in the product that you use. I`ve never had a kid eat it but Sadiedog Feb 2013 #202
i went to Montessori, thankfully did not learn to read or spell that way CreekDog Feb 2013 #196
If she was a parent and did that to her kids, she would have been arrested on the spot. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #9
I did this with my own children and wasn't arrested. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #26
You caused your own children to harm themselves enough to bleed? Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #44
I used sandpaper to teach them to learn letters and to spell words. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #63
As long as nobody's getting hurt, I'm cool with it derby378 Feb 2013 #96
Actually my kids are smart enough to know not to press hard enough to make their finger bleed. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #145
"Proud2blib" believes the kids are liars Scootaloo Feb 2013 #169
are you for real? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #29
Are you? Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #48
i see knee-jerk attack on a teacher who used a well-accepted technique in reading education. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #49
Incorrectly, it would seem. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #53
any parent complaint will prompt an 'investigation.' anti-teacher, anti-public school mentality. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #56
We shall see. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #61
I never said they weren't. So are newspaper reporters, editors and publishers. So are 11-year-old HiPointDem Feb 2013 #95
They investigate every complaint, regardless of the apparent evidence. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #68
Kinesthetic learning is a valid educational tool. For some kids, it's the best way ... 11 Bravo Feb 2013 #12
For starters it's from an 11 year old kid. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #14
No, you are DEFINITELY not the only one! 11 Bravo Feb 2013 #17
Well we have some here who spend much of their time bashing teachers proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #22
+1. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #31
One poster above was only concerned whether the teacher was a christian Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #42
You've said that a few times, about the 11 year-old Union Scribe Feb 2013 #67
I'm saying kids have been known to exaggerate. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #70
I used them also, most of our teachers did. Accepted technique. madfloridian Feb 2013 #35
So are you using 60 grit or 1500? snooper2 Feb 2013 #40
Writing it that many times would've done some good. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2013 #19
Maria Montessori proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #24
Excuse me, I was taught without sandpaper, and I'm not that old. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2013 #34
Your post is scary to me. madfloridian Feb 2013 #41
Likewise, this thread makes me scared for kids today. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2013 #45
I would respond to that, but I don't know how. madfloridian Feb 2013 #46
"kids today"? maria montessori was born in 1870. children learn through all their senses. that HiPointDem Feb 2013 #50
Really? Union Scribe Feb 2013 #66
It is quite common, used often for those with learning problems, and with primary grades. madfloridian Feb 2013 #77
it's not a harsh method *at all*. you just run your finger lightly along the sandpaper as you HiPointDem Feb 2013 #99
This is not at all harsh gollygee Feb 2013 #153
it actually doesn't matter what grit it is. none will abrade the skin if you just brush your finger HiPointDem Feb 2013 #156
Yeah but the sandpaper used for these gollygee Feb 2013 #159
No one was smacked. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #172
montessori: born in 1870. "learned those skills better than students today" = you don't know HiPointDem Feb 2013 #33
If you think kids today are better at writing and spelling Waiting For Everyman Feb 2013 #37
it's 'evidant,' is it? actually, research says otherwise. despite what you read in the popular HiPointDem Feb 2013 #39
"Research" can say a lot of things. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2013 #43
yes, phoney media-generated 'research' can say stupid things like the 60's was the high-water HiPointDem Feb 2013 #47
You have got to be kidding trixie Feb 2013 #110
gosh, a couple of posts earlier you'd never heard of it, but now you know it's bullshit. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #118
Is our children learning? lpbk2713 Feb 2013 #20
I always loved that photo deutsey Feb 2013 #27
What? Recursion Feb 2013 #21
It's part of tactile learning, long accepted. madfloridian Feb 2013 #30
long accepted for small children and surely not at the repetition level cali Feb 2013 #36
You do not yet know the details. madfloridian Feb 2013 #38
In all fairness to the teacher... jberryhill Feb 2013 #51
She also didn't press down on their fingers as they traced the letters on the sandpaper. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #65
Get rid of that teacher Rider3 Feb 2013 #54
You just read the top post didn't you? You didn't read anything else in the thread. GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #181
I could be wrong, but I am calling BS on this one. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #58
+1. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #59
I'm leaning that way myself. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #72
Well: The Straight Story Feb 2013 #73
I just tested it again, longer this time. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #93
But again, was not just the one student that complained The Straight Story Feb 2013 #94
we know *he says* that other students complained. and we know from the teacher's assignment HiPointDem Feb 2013 #130
More her (including that the teacher had previously thrown a shoe at a student) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #140
no. go to the video, which shows the little card with directions the teacher passed out with HiPointDem Feb 2013 #167
Fair enough, but again I am urging you to test this yourself. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #179
it wasn't 125 times in a row. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #100
OMG Arrest that author! proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #102
he's a literary abuser!!!! or maybe he's just carrying water for the education deform crowd. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #116
Daddy's scratchy face will never again seem the same. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #120
How many of these school teacher horror stories turn out to be overblown or misreported? Bucky Feb 2013 #60
About 90% of them. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #97
gawd almighty what a horrible teacher. what else did she do in that 27 years. Whisp Feb 2013 #74
what a stupid post. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #101
of course the kid is a liar Whisp Feb 2013 #103
i said nothing about the kid, just about the stupid post you wrote. and now you wrote two stupid HiPointDem Feb 2013 #117
I sure hope you aren't a teacher. n/t Whisp Feb 2013 #123
i'm not, but i hope you aren't. you're sure johnny-on-the-spot on every teacher-bashing thread, HiPointDem Feb 2013 #128
really? 'every' teacher bashing thread? Whisp Feb 2013 #129
there are a lot of teacher-bashing threads at DU, so maybe not *every* one. but often enough that HiPointDem Feb 2013 #132
backing the truck up a bit? Whisp Feb 2013 #146
sure, whisp. sure. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #150
well I noticed that you are 'always' in threads that bash unicorns Whisp Feb 2013 #161
whatever. anyone can check if they care to. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #177
Found on a search for "sandpaper letters"... madfloridian Feb 2013 #88
probably some kind of broadie-bushie administrator, judging from his ignorance about his own field. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #111
I'm weirded out by the idea of gollygee Feb 2013 #158
Yes, it's Number one in crazy threads. madfloridian Feb 2013 #166
OMG!!! greytdemocrat Feb 2013 #91
WTF. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #92
I heard that she also made them hit themselves on the head with a hammer Orrex Feb 2013 #125
I head she made them carve the alphabet into each other's stomachs. And then eat the cutouts. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #126
The article makes it sound like Delores Umbridge making Harry Potter write gollygee Feb 2013 #136
yes, a couple of posters compared this teacher to Delores Umbridge in all seriousness. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #178
actually my post on that subject was poorly delivered snark justabob Feb 2013 #193
sorry if i misinterpreted your comments. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #194
is my fault justabob Feb 2013 #195
How hard were they doing it? gollygee Feb 2013 #131
thank you. and if they *were* rubbing it with too much pressure, it seems the pain would make HiPointDem Feb 2013 #133
It especially seems unlikely gollygee Feb 2013 #135
Anti-public school propaganda makes me wanna sandpaper my ass leftstreet Feb 2013 #144
Feel the same way when someone says something about catholic priests/cops/guns/etc The Straight Story Feb 2013 #152
Who is doing that? We are presenting the teachers' side....that it is an accepted technique. madfloridian Feb 2013 #168
there are plenty of problems in education. i doubt very seriously that this teacher is one of them. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #171
This thread is crazy gollygee Feb 2013 #164
A+ proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #165
AND "CHILD ABUSE". It's a fucking witch hunt. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #173
It's not common to a lot of us Union Scribe Feb 2013 #188
Bingo. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #190
What in the world? pauldemmd195j Feb 2013 #174
Here, educate yourself. This is what they were doing. Three-year-olds do it without injury. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #175
As a guitar player I'll tell you emphatically that repeatedly rubbing un-calloused fingertips across Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #180
educate yourself. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #183
Preschool Montessori technique abelenkpe Feb 2013 #182
it's used for older kids for the same reasons as younger ones. sensory-tactile learning. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #184
5 times per word, 5 times per day, for 5 days Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #186
NO. the directions on the video say, and I quote: HiPointDem Feb 2013 #189
I am not defending the teacher but left is right Feb 2013 #197
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