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NightOwwl

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96. Exactly the point I was trying to make.

Reply to Demo_Chris (Reply #74)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:01 PM

Feb 2013

Is it really worth the possibility of ruining a wonderful life experience for her son in order to prove a point?

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My son was forced to pray at a school-sponsored event; sucks to be agnostic in a Christian culture [View all] LuckyTheDog Feb 2013 OP

Make a call to the Board of Ed and find out what the system's policy is. leveymg Feb 2013 #1

The coach knows how we feel... LuckyTheDog Feb 2013 #2

Find out what the policy is, first. leveymg Feb 2013 #3

I have to agree. This is a problem that needs to be dealt with "top down"... Walk away Feb 2013 #6

Better yet, if the son is agreeable, Lionessa Feb 2013 #80

Creekdog begs to differ with you jberryhill Feb 2013 #87

I agree that's not a good idea unless the boy is strongly committed in principle, no matter leveymg Feb 2013 #94

Please note, I started with, if the son is agrreable and had the sense to read and note that the OP Lionessa Feb 2013 #97

I wasn't disagreeing with you. leveymg Feb 2013 #98

Actually, why should the OP answer? This is federal law, not f'ing school policy. Lionessa Feb 2013 #99

Yes, I know there's a federal law that applies to this, but so does school policy more immediately, leveymg Feb 2013 #109

Oh please keep your pettiness to yourself, don't try to bunch me in with your CD obsession. Lionessa Feb 2013 #95

"My son, knowing how I feel about such things" jberryhill Feb 2013 #4

My son is 11 years old LuckyTheDog Feb 2013 #5

Personally... jberryhill Feb 2013 #21

You know, the same sort of thing holds true for other crap 'coaches' do, like being homophobes. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #8

+1 nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #12

+2 Lionessa Feb 2013 #100

I also should mention... LuckyTheDog Feb 2013 #9

That's neither here nor there jberryhill Feb 2013 #22

it's already been explained that the kid is 11, why are you being dense about this? CreekDog Feb 2013 #76

"call BS on them" jberryhill Feb 2013 #77

an 11 year old chess champion does not necessarily know when to listen/not listen to a coach CreekDog Feb 2013 #78

Oh, cool another thread about me and how dense I am jberryhill Feb 2013 #79

then why did your child allow themselves to be left injured in a locker room? CreekDog Feb 2013 #81

Because he was unconscious jberryhill Feb 2013 #82

you say this thread isn't about you but you will nitpick the poster CreekDog Feb 2013 #83

I called nobody a fool jberryhill Feb 2013 #84

you keep saying that it's inappropriate for the father to get involved CreekDog Feb 2013 #85

What does this sentence mean to you jberryhill Feb 2013 #86

I went through a similar situation with my daughter. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #89

"He's a smart kid and will figure it all out." jberryhill Feb 2013 #93

I sorta agree. Prayer is direct communication from person to deity one cannot be made to do such a TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #113

Sounds like the coach needs a talking-to Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #7

You see, that's the awkward part LuckyTheDog Feb 2013 #13

I'm doubtful it would come to that primavera Feb 2013 #57

These folks will help you if you need it. rgbecker Feb 2013 #10

SecularStudents.org is also a good one. Lionessa Feb 2013 #102

The Vikings had a form of chess that they enjoyed playing Tyrs WolfDaemon Feb 2013 #11

Oh, I am so sharing this with my daughter. Skidmore Feb 2013 #20

If they have an iPad, there are one or two games that are similar Tyrs WolfDaemon Feb 2013 #58

Chess originated in India during the Gupta Empire Drale Feb 2013 #32

That just means there are more gods that should be honored! Tyrs WolfDaemon Feb 2013 #46

There's always a choice, and sometimes it's not something that can be done nicely. Daemonaquila Feb 2013 #14

"parents alone can rarely have the kind of effect that a student speaking up can have" jberryhill Feb 2013 #25

Especially if it is in front of witnesses of your peers. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #71

I did the same, and I went to Catholic schools ybbor Feb 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author demwing Feb 2013 #37

Good luck with this. Waiting for the usual DU crew to chime in with "its just a little prayer"!!11!! riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #15

I doubt you'll see that here jberryhill Feb 2013 #31

So school coaches are allowed to pray with students before games? riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #40

On their own meter, they can, sure jberryhill Feb 2013 #53

This was at a school function and he was acting in a teacher/coach position - not his own "meter" riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #56

If you are asking about the particular situation described in the OP jberryhill Feb 2013 #63

Thanks for the clarification! nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #69

This is my question also... aptal Feb 2013 #61

The coach threatened unspecified "consequences" jberryhill Feb 2013 #64

Ahh, sorry I missed that part in the post. aptal Feb 2013 #67

Riiiight, because that is EXACTLY what you would expect at DU demwing Feb 2013 #39

If you feel strongly enough about it, contact the FFRF or ACLU RussBLib Feb 2013 #16

I'm a believer who is angry that this happened to you and your son me b zola Feb 2013 #17

Same here Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #23

Yeah, we know what would happen me b zola Feb 2013 #26

I totally agree. vduhr Feb 2013 #75

The problem is... jberryhill Feb 2013 #28

I thought only 'student intitiated prayers' were allowed at sporting events. sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #18

A fellow agnostic av8r1998 Feb 2013 #19

It doesn't pay to be respectful to a bully. Daemonaquila Feb 2013 #35

Very True av8r1998 Feb 2013 #41

I understand there are similarities but I would disagree that this behavior merits disrespect. randome Feb 2013 #47

Sucks that a child should be put through this nonsense, but keep in mind that it is the AzDar Feb 2013 #24

Oh, Lord... TlalocW Feb 2013 #27

If the coach can offer prayers, then so can the kids. How about a prayer to Satan? Ian David Feb 2013 #29

This is what I always say to the school prayer crowd. Sure lets have prayer in school! Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #66

Put it back on the coach and ask EC Feb 2013 #33

I'm an athiest and had to pray in school. It was not that big of deal, didn't damage me. firehorse Feb 2013 #34

that's BS stupidicus Feb 2013 #36

This is too important to not give the holy bastard a taste of the hot coals of hell Coyotl Feb 2013 #38

DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT! Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #42

Is this a public school? Or a private school? proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #43

That is how I learned to oppose prayer in school. In 3rd grade Joseph Mc Carthy (sp?) died and jwirr Feb 2013 #44

"there would be consequences" Truly? demwing Feb 2013 #45

He cannot compel participation! Bad Thoughts Feb 2013 #48

It seems like the coach is good at teaching chess, but has forgotten it is not a religion class. logosoco Feb 2013 #49

You should also fight to have the bishops removed from play Orrex Feb 2013 #50

A couple town and county boards still pray before meetings where I am. bobclark86 Feb 2013 #51

As a fellow agnostic, I wish you the best of luck. n/t proReality Feb 2013 #52

A toughie - that really tests the strength of one's convictions primavera Feb 2013 #54

Send a detailed e-mail to both the Principle, Superintendent, and maybe even a few Board members- cecilfirefox Feb 2013 #55

Aside from the illegality of the prayer Gman Feb 2013 #59

yawn Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #60

like GOD really gives a shit who wins a chess game leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #62

To Borrow A Ricky Gervais Line........... ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2013 #68

As For Myself, This Is What I Do When Faced With Those Situations ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2013 #65

My mom was a Holy Terror in such situations. hunter Feb 2013 #70

I would ask the coach exactly SemperEadem Feb 2013 #72

You yourself say NightOwwl Feb 2013 #73

My advice for what little it's worth Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #74

+1 Good post. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #90

Exactly the point I was trying to make. NightOwwl Feb 2013 #96

It might be. It's not an easy choice. :) -nt Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #110

I went to public school in Texas in the '60s. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #88

Get video proof, especially of the "repercussions" threat, and raise the roof. Lars39 Feb 2013 #91

I was your son in 1953 coldbeer Feb 2013 #92

It does suck. Rider3 Feb 2013 #101

I am so sorry this is happening. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #103

Call your local ACLU Taverner Feb 2013 #104

I actually have a pretty good contact at the state ACLU... BUT... LuckyTheDog Feb 2013 #107

Best of luck with that! DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #105

You have grounds and could get the school in a world of s**t appleannie1 Feb 2013 #106

MAN UP and INSIST that this (ILLEGAL, if a public school) practice STOP IMMEDIATELY. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #108

A skirmish ignored today DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #111

Doing right versus being right. NightOwwl Feb 2013 #112

Is he praying that they win? roody Feb 2013 #114