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29. There are two kinds of freedom

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:30 PM

Feb 2013

freedom from and freedom to. One is not had without giving up some of the other. It's the Yin and Yang and Newton's law of motion: for every action there's a reaction. The balance of the Universe and relativity.
Lest anyone forget, freedom fries.
We're going down the crapper and no amount of chest thumping and claims of American exceptionalism will change the course we've set.
Locking up some major bank CEOs and closing foreign military installations would go a long way toward recovery.

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Wow !!! - Check Out The Front Page Of HuffPo... The Price Of "Freedom" [View all] WillyT Feb 2013 OP

Chilling /nt think Feb 2013 #1

Great, eh? oldandhappy Feb 2013 #2

I Agree, Keep Showing Pictures otohara Feb 2013 #4

Welcome to DU, oldandhappy! calimary Feb 2013 #62

thanks oldandhappy Feb 2013 #63

it's gut-wrenching samsingh Feb 2013 #3

Killed a lot of first nation people. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2013 #51

55% of gun related deaths are from suicide ...and then there is the asshole L0oniX Feb 2013 #5

Sorry for your tribulations Whovian Feb 2013 #31

Good point, I think this freedom stuff is overrated anyway Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #6

So many straw men thucythucy Feb 2013 #7

Yeah, but I don't own any guns. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #15

And the perpetrators usually face a death sentance Lordquinton Feb 2013 #18

I guess you missed the point Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #24

Nice change of the subject Lordquinton Feb 2013 #28

Sorry, I read that several times and I am missing what you are saying. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #33

Ok, no harm no foul Lordquinton Feb 2013 #43

The fault was ENTIRELY mine and I apologize for wasting everyone's time Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #44

Dogs have to be licensed. They are regulated: thucythucy Feb 2013 #54

Thanks for your CONCERN. Duly noted and filed. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #8

What rightwing dot com did you copy & paste that from? JaneyVee Feb 2013 #9

I didn't, but if you read it thanks! Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #16

Hysteria like that is usually a RW trait. Kind of like equating ObamaCare with Socialism & the JaneyVee Feb 2013 #35

Yeah, I reread it and saw why there was so much confusion... :( Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #40

Hey Chris? RevStPatrick Feb 2013 #10

I don't think so, but not everyone shares my opinion. Thanks for reading anyway. :) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #21

The sentiments expressed are nothing short of asinine! etherealtruth Feb 2013 #26

That was the point Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #32

Your post does not read that way ... etherealtruth Feb 2013 #41

I know, I reread it and saw what everyone else was seeing (cont) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #42

Its not a waste of time etherealtruth Feb 2013 #45

Really? Ajaye Feb 2013 #12

My objection to that article has nothing to do with my position on gun control Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #19

I'd settle for just banning guns and leaf-blowers ~nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #13

I'm with you on the leaf-blowers. In my neighborhood they have leaf-blower wars. Everyone pays DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #34

+ 10 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #64

I wouldn't go so far as making them illegal because there are already so many laws on the books DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #65

Maybe you're right 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #67

I just love them slippery slopes and straw men nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #17

k&r n/t RainDog Feb 2013 #11

So HuffPo is now decidedly pro-stalker, pro-rapist Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #14

It's not about taking away the right to self defence Lordquinton Feb 2013 #20

No weapon is used in 85% of rapes/sexual assaults Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #22

About the prohabition strawman Lordquinton Feb 2013 #27

You said you preferred rapists and stalkers not be armed Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #30

So you're not going to listen to any counters to your arguments? Lordquinton Feb 2013 #39

In all sincerity, I'm not ignoring what you say Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #47

"It is an appeal to uncritical emotionalism" Lordquinton Feb 2013 #49

HuffPo used a cheap, uncritical appeal to emotion. I threw it back at them intentionally Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #50

Yea, let's bring back the "Don't touch" campaign Lordquinton Feb 2013 #56

Since you're so determined to reassure me that no one is going to take the guns away Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #58

You're really all over the place Lordquinton Feb 2013 #59

I thought we were talking baout the fallacy of the gun-grabber. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #60

Gun-Grabber is the fallacy Lordquinton Feb 2013 #61

+ 1000 We've seen what they've done to our schools, our social security, our economy. It's all fail. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #36

ironic much? frylock Feb 2013 #37

It was deliberate. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #38

Little children . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #23

And nearly all of them killed by handguns Recursion Feb 2013 #25

so lets Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #52

There are two kinds of freedom The Wizard Feb 2013 #29

Shit. That pretty much says it all. Warpy Feb 2013 #46

both of your points are very, very well made renate Feb 2013 #48

Great post: thucythucy Feb 2013 #55

Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #53

Kick & Rec. Though our "pro-gun progressives"* don't give a shit about the faces on that front page apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #57

Better link! Can't find it! Logical Feb 2013 #66