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stevenleser

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28. Things were not clear to lots of folks including a majority of the UN Sec Council Nations
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:23 PM
Feb 2013

they voted for UNSC Resolution 1441 on November 8th after our IWR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441

I disagree with both #1 and #2. The expanded reason why I disagree and my explanation how everything happened in real time is in the article http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Iraq-War--Six-Year-Annive-by-Steven-Leser-090304-145.html

When Truth Tried to Stop War [View all] Octafish Feb 2013 OP
Joe Wilson also provided information their reasons for invafing Itaq was false and his reward Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #1
Bush made wives 'fair game' in war on whistleblowers. Octafish Feb 2013 #3
Yeah, but that was when they could blame it all the republicans. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #2
It was Geirge W Bush with the final decision, the ones you listed authorized action Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #5
Well of course it was shrub, that's not the point. Without these traitors siding with Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #10
I read the names, the point I was trying to make to you it would have happened without the support Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #11
That's simply not true. Go look at the records, there were quite a few republicans that opposed Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #12
There was nothing wrong with the Democratic vote on IWR. As I explain in my post below. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #14
Yes, there was. Apparently revising history is not the sole purview of the republicans. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #17
Go ahead and explain away my response then because you have to revise history to be correct. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #19
And here's another republican strategy, accuse your opponent of doing what you're doing. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #23
You just revised the Iraq War Resolution below. So I would say you just did the GOP tactic. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #24
Of course you would. It doesn't change the record. Without the votes of those DINOs the act Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #25
You keep trying to pretend facts away, it doesn't work. Deal with the facts or admit defeat. stevenleser Feb 2013 #27
. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #29
Cite where any of those articles disagree with me. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #30
Every one of them shows that without the Senate vote the acts fails and the rest Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #34
I agree 100% RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #37
It wasnt just "Dems" it was the entire international community stevenleser Feb 2013 #42
It was a clear as day then what the IWR was about and no amount of obfuscation changes that. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #45
I am in favor of the OP, and as I said, cite something that disagrees with me and the article. stevenleser Feb 2013 #39
Go push your blog somewhere else. You're not the first, nor will you be the Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #40
OpEdNews is not my blog. Let's count how many times you have been wrong or ignored facts stevenleser Feb 2013 #41
This is just pathetic. No Democratic votes for the IWR = no Iraq war Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #43
Think about how illogical that statement is. The provisions in the IWR were not met. stevenleser Feb 2013 #53
Spin tiny dancer. I made one point and one point only. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #51
I stand on my previous call outs of your inaccuracies and bad faith efforts. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #54
Of course you do. But it still doesn't change the fact that Democratic Senators Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #64
The republicans were a foregone conclusion, only one of them voted against. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #52
The 'money trumps peace' crowd is buy-partisan. Octafish Feb 2013 #6
Exactly. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #20
Not correct and I thoroughly explain why here... stevenleser Feb 2013 #13
Roll Call says otherwise. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #16
Fact matter, and they are not on your side. Here it is real easy and simple stevenleser Feb 2013 #18
Yes they do. "Congress gave permission for war". n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #21
Just as I thought, you are revising history to make your point. Exactly what you accused me of doing stevenleser Feb 2013 #22
I probably shouldn't jump in here, but ... Martin Eden Feb 2013 #26
Things were not clear to lots of folks including a majority of the UN Sec Council Nations stevenleser Feb 2013 #28
Are you suggesting that the Dems who signed off on the IWR magellan Feb 2013 #33
That argument doesnt work for several reasons stevenleser Feb 2013 #38
Your Security Council argument doesn't work Martin Eden Feb 2013 #44
It does work, and everything else you wrote only makes my point stronger. stevenleser Feb 2013 #56
You're making no sense whatsoever. Martin Eden Feb 2013 #62
The bombing campaign that took place in 2002 wasn't de facto magellan Feb 2013 #48
Again, you make my point for me. How exactly was this satisfied... stevenleser Feb 2013 #57
Are you joking? magellan Feb 2013 #61
And as regards the bombing, there were many such escalations, like Operation Desert Fox and stevenleser Feb 2013 #58
Except those were publicly announced by Clinton, not kept secret magellan Feb 2013 #63
It was clear at the time what the IWR was...a free ticket for Bush to go to war. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #47
Exactly magellan Feb 2013 #49
Nope, see my response upthread. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #55
+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #50
DURec leftstreet Feb 2013 #4
Only the Truth could derail the War Train Octafish Feb 2013 #8
Thanks for this. hay rick Feb 2013 #7
'...but the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy...' Octafish Feb 2013 #65
Dear Octafish, you are just the best of the best. 7wo7rees Feb 2013 #9
Remember how Pruneface and Poppy Bush helped arm Saddam in the 1980s and 90s? Octafish Feb 2013 #66
Bad Partners 4Q2u2 Feb 2013 #78
K&R stevenleser Feb 2013 #15
ENEMY WANTED Octafish Feb 2013 #67
Good read. Swanson's work is very important stevenleser Feb 2013 #71
Check this out... stevenleser Feb 2013 #72
Political ambrition trumps the truth every time. Not to mention money. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #31
This war on terrorism is bogus Octafish Feb 2013 #68
He was good at jumping through Bush's hoop Ian Iam Feb 2013 #32
Steve Bell pegged them for history. Octafish Feb 2013 #69
Money trumps peace all the time every time. Initech Feb 2013 #35
Bush told the Iraqis not to harm the oil wells night before invasion. Octafish Feb 2013 #70
So that makes me really wonder what this war was really fought for. Initech Feb 2013 #73
An excellent job of research, Octafish! LongTomH Feb 2013 #36
DU was on to their gangster arses from the Gitmo Get-go. Octafish Feb 2013 #74
The archive.org article did make a factual error. Prescott Bush was George H.W. daddy not.... LongTomH Feb 2013 #80
Two Prescotts...pere and frere. Octafish Feb 2013 #81
I stand corrected! LongTomH Feb 2013 #82
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #46
Now Lies and Sideshows Protect the Traitors. Octafish Feb 2013 #75
I remember those days. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #59
The Lies that Led to the Iraq War and the Persistant Myth of 'Intelligence Failure' Octafish Feb 2013 #76
Two NYC marches for me. Millions of us world-wide knew we were about to see a war crime in our name. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #60
Thank you, WinkyDink. I, too, remember. Remember Curveball? Octafish Feb 2013 #77
There were millions, worldwide, who tried to stop it Oilwellian Feb 2013 #79
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