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NCTraveler

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40. "Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement"
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 04:52 PM
Jan 2013

Why would the bill exclude assault weapons used by "retired law enforcement".

What Makes a Gun an Assault Weapon? [View all] SecularMotion Jan 2013 OP
Down the road, guns, clips, and ammo will be 'well regulated' based on performance. onehandle Jan 2013 #1
Assault kwolf68 Jan 2013 #2
"Assault is supposed to mean fully automatic". Says who? jmg257 Jan 2013 #8
Maybe I am thinking of "assault rifle" kwolf68 Jan 2013 #13
You are right about "assault rifle", and it typically being distinguishable from "assault weapon" jmg257 Jan 2013 #20
Back Then, Military-Style Semi-Autos Were Openly Marketed As "Assault Rifles" Paladin Jan 2013 #21
Anyone who has participated in a military assault... Deep13 Feb 2013 #102
I can tell you have NEVER been anywhere near a real assault Bandit Jan 2013 #22
Yup, three-round bursts are what we were taught. You might go full-balls rock and roll ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #87
Wrong. Assault means military style. Fully automatic means nothing. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #24
Can you clarify this? Assault RIFLE - traditionally has select fire. jmg257 Jan 2013 #25
Yes Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #27
Legally, no gun can ever be both an "assault weapon" and an "assault rifle" Recursion Jan 2013 #35
. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #42
Yes, that's what I said Recursion Jan 2013 #43
I'm confused. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #45
No. I'm saying it has to be capable of automatic fire to be an assault rifle. Here's a Venn diagram. Recursion Jan 2013 #47
That is crazy Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #88
Of course it's crazy. Our gun laws are not sane. Recursion Jan 2013 #89
Yes, rifles can be full auto or semi, "assault weapons" or not, and some pistols can also be "AW"s X_Digger Feb 2013 #94
This help any? X_Digger Feb 2013 #95
Thank you Recursion Feb 2013 #96
Just threw it together in photoshop.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #98
Just as a former topology grad student, "full auto" should be contiguous and include some shotguns Recursion Feb 2013 #99
Yeah, hard to do in 2d.. also nevermind DDs & SBRs, 'cane' guns, etc etc. X_Digger Feb 2013 #100
The part labelled "Barrel shroud" is actually a handguard or forestock slackmaster Jan 2013 #3
Have to disagree with you about collapsible stocks Animal Chin Jan 2013 #9
A person would have to be pretty big and wear very loose clothing to conceal any rifle slackmaster Jan 2013 #11
They also make it fit multiple people librabear Jan 2013 #15
4" difference makes it concealable?!? X_Digger Jan 2013 #26
You might want to read the Bill... jmg257 Jan 2013 #10
Further proof that the bill is mindless and probably not written with any intention of passing slackmaster Jan 2013 #17
How long do you think it will take? Hangingon Jan 2013 #46
Not sure - but this part should make it a little harder... jmg257 Jan 2013 #48
'94 ban had that too Recursion Jan 2013 #54
Ahh - I thought they used.. jmg257 Jan 2013 #58
Too vague. Law has to be precise. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #77
The part labeled "suppressor" montanto Jan 2013 #4
Yes, and the purpose of a flash suppressor is to deflect the flash out of the shooter's field... slackmaster Jan 2013 #5
Correct librabear Jan 2013 #12
What is the purpose of that? quakerboy Feb 2013 #112
When the combination of firearm and ammunition produce a brilliant flash at the muzzle slackmaster Feb 2013 #113
by definition capable of automatic fire = assault rifle iiibbb Jan 2013 #6
But it does describe a class of weapons. jmg257 Jan 2013 #16
the class is arbitrary iiibbb Jan 2013 #19
As codified in law - yes - I agree. But not as likely orginally used. jmg257 Jan 2013 #23
Barrel Shroud Animal Chin Jan 2013 #7
Doesn't matter what you think a barrel shroud is...only what Feinstein says it is... jmg257 Jan 2013 #14
I see a big list of cosmetic features. librabear Jan 2013 #18
How many people can you kill with it within a 20 foot radius, in 1 minute. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #28
We have a document called the Bill of Rights. I've never heard of a Bill of Needs. slackmaster Jan 2013 #30
I say .... Screw the semantics of "need". JoePhilly Jan 2013 #33
The federal government already regulates commerce in firearms slackmaster Jan 2013 #36
The stupidity of the AWB in two pictures hack89 Jan 2013 #29
Message deleted by the DU Administrators SailorMike Jan 2013 #57
"Assault" is a verb, not an adjective. k2qb3 Jan 2013 #31
Except of course that grandpa's M1 carbine is specifically exempt. jmg257 Jan 2013 #39
Message deleted by the DU Administrators SailorMike Jan 2013 #59
Oddly enough the SKS, the Russian Garand is included in the ban.....nt ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #91
there is no such things as global warming Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #32
+10000 JoePhilly Jan 2013 #34
the ability to fire bullets....... bowens43 Jan 2013 #37
Legislative imagination. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #38
"Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement" NCTraveler Jan 2013 #40
All these laws carve out exceptions for law enforcement and retired law enforcement X_Digger Jan 2013 #60
Thanks for the reply. I understand it is that way for current law enforcement. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #83
Really makes you think about all those who tout 'supported by law enforcement' re new bills, eh? n/t X_Digger Jan 2013 #85
If it causes an erection quickly. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #41
Any firearms that can allow a novice to kill 20 children in a blink of an eye NoOneMan Jan 2013 #44
OK, that technology is called a "gun", unfortunately Recursion Jan 2013 #52
"not nearly as much difference among different firearms" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #65
What about Virginia Tech? Recursion Jan 2013 #66
Did he use a bolt-action rifle? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #68
No, he used semi-automatic handguns, like 95% of people who kill with guns Recursion Jan 2013 #69
So maybe those qualify as "mean" guns NoOneMan Jan 2013 #72
I don't have an argument in principle against banning pistols Recursion Jan 2013 #74
I do ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #92
Bullshit. Utter and complete NRA bullshit. morningfog Feb 2013 #97
Hm. OK. Tell me what you think was wrong with what I said (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #101
You derailed with this: morningfog Feb 2013 #103
26 in 10 minutes? One shot every 23 seconds? Recursion Feb 2013 #104
Your attempt to muddy the water is still failing. morningfog Feb 2013 #106
It wasn't a blink of an eye... it was several minutes. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #55
If someone can be trusted with a gun, they can pretty much be trusted with any gun Recursion Jan 2013 #61
I agree. Feinstein's bill says a Glock with 15 rounds is too unsafe but 10 rounds is acceptable. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #70
Im convinced that's just nonsense NoOneMan Jan 2013 #67
People haven't made single-shot pistols since the mid 1800s. Recursion Jan 2013 #71
Yes they have NoOneMan Jan 2013 #75
Aren't those air pistols? (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #76
Single-shot .22 pistols NoOneMan Jan 2013 #78
Fair enough. So there are break-action pistols. Recursion Jan 2013 #79
Oh, I was just nit-picking the "any design" comment :) NoOneMan Jan 2013 #81
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #80
And improved upon in the 20th Century NoOneMan Jan 2013 #82
Your NRA gun apologia is telling. morningfog Feb 2013 #107
The only feature on that picture that effects lethality in any way is the magazine. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #49
AW's deathrind Jan 2013 #50
The term "assault weapon" is legally defined, though Recursion Jan 2013 #53
Markedly better definition here ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #51
It becomes an assault weapon Zoeisright Jan 2013 #56
Second Amendment has never been read to only protect muskets. dairydog91 Jan 2013 #62
You're fucking wrong. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #109
You lot get *so* angry when we decline to sing from your hymnal... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #111
Message deleted by the DU Administrators SailorMike Jan 2013 #63
(sigh) didn't take long did it Mikey........ DainBramaged Jan 2013 #84
That's why I'm here... derby378 Jan 2013 #86
Basically, yes: if you want to make mass shootings impossible you have to go back to muskets Recursion Jan 2013 #64
If it comes with a guardian Jan 2013 #73
If it's designed to assault an opposing force, TransitJohn Jan 2013 #90
Armies do not assault anything these days with semi automatic rifles ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #93
If it shoots bullets, it can assault people at a distance. That's sufficient. nt longship Feb 2013 #105
Whatever the law says it is. It has no historic meaning. Deep13 Feb 2013 #108
Can you assault people with it? Yes? mwrguy Feb 2013 #110
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