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guardian

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86. No I was reading your post

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:10 AM

Jan 2013

you said "and the point is, only people who want those silly guns think they are any good for anything. there are over 200 million people who think they are just plain silly."

The implication being that balance of the country's population that want and own guns are silly and their wishes are unimportant. I guess you are one of those that believe the wishes of 1/3 to 1/2 the population are unimportant.

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A thought about an assault weapons ban [View all] upaloopa Jan 2013 OP

I agree. That dialog is important in changing how we view guns and gun owners, particularly those Hoyt Jan 2013 #1

The idea of creating a catagory of weapons based on arbitrary features, then banning them... krispos42 Jan 2013 #2

the idea of creating the 'cateGORY of weapons' was the gun MAKER'S idea, really. gory indeed farminator3000 Jan 2013 #14

So laundry_queen Jan 2013 #97

*sigh* krispos42 Jan 2013 #107

I thought part of the gun culture was pride in how quickly you can kill a person, if you wanted. sadbear Jan 2013 #3

NO not at all they would take pride in the fact their gun was the same model used in mass killings Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #4

agreed nt clarice Jan 2013 #96

You only have to kill (or incapacitate) them quickly enough to stop them from killing you sylvi Jan 2013 #76

The problem is there's not really a distinction between assault and "non-assault" weapons Recursion Jan 2013 #5

To the discussion I was talking about none of that matters. upaloopa Jan 2013 #7

There is no strength in ignorance hack89 Jan 2013 #9

there is strength in stopping all sales of the stupid guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #16

They are not better guns hack89 Jan 2013 #20

says you! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26

Both my wife and daughter are small framed hack89 Jan 2013 #31

so pony up and get them a sweet tikka lite farminator3000 Jan 2013 #44

I don't care what you think is an accurate statement, yes. hack89 Jan 2013 #50

And don't forget that Feinstein was against the talking filibuster nick of time Jan 2013 #54

why does ol' wayney lapuko keep having hissy fits about it? he says it is the spawn of satan farminator3000 Jan 2013 #89

I don't care what he thinks - he is an idiot. hack89 Jan 2013 #92

good for you! i'd think he would be a major embarrassment to ANY sane gun owner! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #95

There are good reasons only a tiny percentage of gun owners are NRA members. hack89 Jan 2013 #98

um. yes, and no. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #100

Did you notice the comment on BATF paperwork? Think about it for a second hack89 Jan 2013 #101

well, then, think about WHY handguns are as common and easy to get as DILDOS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #103

I have no problem with the CDC researching gun violence hack89 Jan 2013 #104

good! kinda awful how the nra hampers the CDC farminator3000 Jan 2013 #106

then why, pray tell, did the GUN MAKERS INVENT IT?? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #15

To sell more. Recursion Jan 2013 #19

thank you for your agreement farminator3000 Jan 2013 #28

Not sure what you mean by "get it off my chest" Recursion Jan 2013 #42

i'm not quite sure what you mean, ever, soo... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #65

Oldsmobile had a model called a "Rocket 88." It did not fly. It sold. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #21

olds never made a tank or troop transport farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29

Oldsmobile made most of the self-propelled artillery the US used in WWII Recursion Jan 2013 #41

we have 2 GMC army trucks on the farm, actually. NOT automatics... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #64

Are you sure you don't mean Josh Sugarmann of the VPC? derby378 Jan 2013 #36

no, like i frikin' said, i mean smith&wesson calling them 'M&P" farminator3000 Jan 2013 #55

"our sales are slumping" sylvi Jan 2013 #77

right, without the corporate BS doublespeak, it means 'our sales aren't increasing fast enough' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #81

That's the plan? aikoaiko Jan 2013 #6

no, not the plan, what you typed makes no sense farminator3000 Jan 2013 #18

It's not going to pass but it will cause a run on the guns. dkf Jan 2013 #37

there IS a run on guns now, yes. and they are in short supply. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #57

There will still be a new model next year, with its grip shape changed. That will sell too Recursion Jan 2013 #61

And the manufacturer's will just change the name nick of time Jan 2013 #62

It's about a month too late for that worry Recursion Jan 2013 #59

Can you show me the part of the law that allows guns to be listed without amending the law? aikoaiko Jan 2013 #67

nbc news can farminator3000 Jan 2013 #68

You said one thing in post 18 and something different in post 68. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #71

no, both statements are 'no more copycats' - it bans the listed guns AND new ones with the features farminator3000 Jan 2013 #78

Its an AR with a monsterman grip and no other evil features except detachable mag aikoaiko Jan 2013 #82

ok, the monsterman thing is what they used to get around laws in cali farminator3000 Jan 2013 #85

Such a grip will also make an AR compliant with the proposed AWB aikoaiko Jan 2013 #93

great, keep the AR, just no 30 round mags farminator3000 Jan 2013 #99

Which would segue into a conversation about handguns? hack89 Jan 2013 #8

I am not going to respond to gunner questions anymore. upaloopa Jan 2013 #10

Invincible ignorance is not a path to victory hack89 Jan 2013 #12

I'm not playing games upaloopa Jan 2013 #38

I agree - it is only a discussion board after all. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #39

i've got your back farminator3000 Jan 2013 #30

sure, why not? it already IS part of the convo, so try agin. no, dont try again... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #22

Handguns are actually the choice of most mass shootings hack89 Jan 2013 #27

I'd even ditch the magazine restrictions, too derby378 Jan 2013 #40

Meh. Consumer culture is full of arbitrary decisions like that. Recursion Jan 2013 #58

not really. they are easier to conceal, sure. there is one thing in common in mass shootings.. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #43

An AR-15 that is compliant with the new AWB will still be just as deadly hack89 Jan 2013 #48

Insulting people is generally not a good way to get them to cooperate, or to change their minds. slackmaster Jan 2013 #11

not really an insult, the answer to the ? posed is a simple yes. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23

Please spare me the sophistry, farminator4000. The innuendo is obvious. slackmaster Jan 2013 #35

no innuendo about a resonable person saying 'why do you have that silly gun?' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53

If you can't see the TWO insults inherent in that reply, I can't help you understand any better. slackmaster Jan 2013 #60

Oh, I beg to differ... The next time someone ties my penis around a gun, I'm going to melt ALL of my cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #74

So the purpose of a new AWB sarisataka Jan 2013 #13

read the new AWB farminator3000 Jan 2013 #24

I have sarisataka Jan 2013 #32

banning 150+ crappy guns and allowing 900+ good ones is nothing? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46

Thousands of AR get sold by shady dealers just for profit every day? nick of time Jan 2013 #49

i think i meant 'guns', but if you want a guess at how many ARs, sure farminator3000 Jan 2013 #83

Banning 150+ of the most popular guns sarisataka Jan 2013 #72

popular to who? the nra and gun makers, really. if they never started pushing them, would you gun farminator3000 Jan 2013 #84

I find it funny sarisataka Jan 2013 #88

it isn't funny, people are dying every 45 minutes, so stop laughing. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #90

I meant funny strange, not funny haha sarisataka Jan 2013 #91

ok, gotcha! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #94

Couple possibilities sarisataka Jan 2013 #102

thanks! reality can be shadowy...another ? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #105

Sounds like fireworks here sarisataka Jan 2013 #108

The AWB is to force gun makers to make cosmetic changes to their rifles hack89 Jan 2013 #33

that's the OLD awb, silly farminator3000 Jan 2013 #47

You better read closer hack89 Jan 2013 #51

Not so sure... jmg257 Jan 2013 #63

It specifically calls out the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF hack89 Jan 2013 #69

Thanks for the clarification. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #70

Wow - 122 page bill, of which 99 pages are a list of exemtions...wild! nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #66

Look at that list. Most of the "exemptions" are bolt-action rifles. slackmaster Jan 2013 #80

The hard on for grips is wanting less safety and accuracy in hopes of accidental shootings TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #73

Here's the proposed AWB. It doesn't do what you seem to think it does about BG checks Recursion Jan 2013 #34

BG checks are mentioned precisely ONCE farminator3000 Jan 2013 #52

It infuriates me that both the NRA and our party agree on this in substance, and it keeps... Recursion Jan 2013 #56

Seems like a "lite" version of the stuff you see on DU... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #17

look at post #14 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #25

In other words guardian Jan 2013 #75

you must of read some other post, not mine farminator3000 Jan 2013 #79

No I was reading your post guardian Jan 2013 #86

then what are you talking about? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #87

Sorry, but pointless regjoe Jan 2013 #45