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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
63. Story of another gun, that has no serial number,
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:00 AM
Jan 2013

Manufactured by Stony Hill in 1851, it was bought by my great, great, great grandfather in his youth. Blackpowder, ball and cap, approximately fifty caliber. It was used in the Civil War, fighting in the vicious skirmishes that pitted brother against brother in the Missouri Civil War theater.

After the war, it went home, where it became a farm gun, used to put meat on the table, protect the livestock and other chores needed around the family farm. It, like the family farm, was passed down through the generations. My grandfather and father used this gun, in fact it saw regular use for a hundred years, even though other guns came and went. Well treated and kept in great condition, it continued to do what needed to be done.

I fired this gun when I was a kid. It kicked like a Missouri mule, especially with that hard metal butt plate. I was amazed by the accuracy of the gun, even more amazed when my grandfather, then in his mid seventies, put on a shooting demonstration with it. His ability with this gun, a gun he had grown up with all his life, was simply stunning.

It was last fired in the late eighties, by my father. It was passed on down to me upon his death, as was the family farm it had worked on. Though still in good condition, I decided to never fire it again, not wanting to risk blowing up a family heirloom, for that is what it is. It hangs upon my wall, a reminder of previous generations of my family, and what they went through.

It never murdered anybody, though it was used in self defense more than once. It was never stolen, or used to commit a crime. It is what is always has been, a trusty tool that could be relied upon to do its job whenever called upon.

That is the story of one gun, but it represents many, many guns. Most guns are simply tools, used when called upon. Sadly, we only hear of the ones that are misused or abused. But they don't represent the majority of guns in this country.

The story of a gun: Serial number MPX753 [View all] superpatriotman Jan 2013 OP
Devil"s Right Hand MightyMopar Jan 2013 #1
The story of a gun: serial number abc-1234 Bay Boy Jan 2013 #2
The deputy who used the gun in the story never misused his gun either. Squinch Jan 2013 #5
exactly. probably no law against leaving in your car farminator3000 Jan 2013 #9
Oy. I had not heard that number. That's chilling. Squinch Jan 2013 #10
its been going down if that helps... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #13
Only police and military need guns sarisataka Jan 2013 #3
Interesting that this gun melm00se Jan 2013 #4
Obviously a member of our crack law enforcement community would stultusporcos Jan 2013 #6
What's the point? Crepuscular Jan 2013 #7
see #11 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #12
It's just a good, interesting illustration of the "chain of ownership" Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #43
Yeah, what's the whole "point thing" about learning new information?? nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #66
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out the objective/reason for the article. ?? nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #8
to show how 75% of 'shootings' actually happen in reality? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #11
Too few and not obeyed... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #14
so you blame the cops for criminal gun activity and not the NRA. interesting farminator3000 Jan 2013 #15
this one in particular you might want to check out farminator3000 Jan 2013 #16
How many were traced back to the original seller? ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #17
how would i know that? i'm not an NYPD detective. plus it was 3 days ago, so even though i'm farminator3000 Jan 2013 #19
FFLs are required to keep the paperwork forever. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #21
great, but they only sell 60% of guns, the others are all no BG check farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23
Uh...no. Your assertion about dealers only keeping records 24 hours is 100% false. beevul Jan 2013 #22
see #23 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #24
Umm.. dealer's records != background check records. X_Digger Jan 2013 #25
and the batf doing stuff by hand not = to sanity farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26
None of which mitigates the simple fact that you were wrong when you said... beevul Jan 2013 #27
thank you for not posting a wall of hoo-hah, makes it quicker to refute! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29
You figured out how to use paragraphs. Good job! beevul Jan 2013 #44
serious question here- farminator3000 Jan 2013 #31
check post #29 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #30
Actually, you did misspeak.. X_Digger Jan 2013 #32
no, i was typing, and you are obsessing about a form that is meaningless farminator3000 Jan 2013 #33
Meaningless? Then why keep them? They (form 4473s) are the main means of tracing guns used in crime. X_Digger Jan 2013 #35
why keep them in a cardboard box if they are so important? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36
Nice dodge. Still doesn't change the fact that you were wrong about.. X_Digger Jan 2013 #37
can you please discuss something of revelance? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #38
Dealers *never* had the background check records. X_Digger Jan 2013 #39
well, that certainly is a problem, now ISN'T IT? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #40
"Mails it in"?!? You really don't know the process, do you? X_Digger Jan 2013 #41
it sure doesn't make any sense, whatever you are typing, there. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #45
The BATFE checks the 4473-- the exact same information that he read to the NICS agent for BG check. X_Digger Jan 2013 #47
reality, post #46 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #49
These guns were traced to point of sale, no? Then your contention in post #19 is incorrect. X_Digger Jan 2013 #52
maybe they bought gas while on their jolly gun buying jaunt. or used their phones. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53
The fact that the cops could even say where they came from proves your statement wrong. X_Digger Jan 2013 #55
you have no idea what the cops know or how they know it and it proves nothing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #56
I do know what cops know, my family is a cop shop. X_Digger Jan 2013 #58
working this case, are they? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #60
To review.. BG checks != 4473's which aren't destroyed. X_Digger Jan 2013 #62
i couldn't care less about the details farminator3000 Jan 2013 #65
All states have background checks from federally licensed dealers. X_Digger Jan 2013 #67
you can't be serious. at all. dealers aren't involved at all for the 12th time farminator3000 Jan 2013 #68
If you mean private sales, then *say* private sales. X_Digger Jan 2013 #69
oh for the everloving crap of the ages. i'm saying THERE ARE TOO MANY GODDAMN GUNS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #70
i mean really. think about reality, please. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46
Dealers are required to check ID.. for the background check. X_Digger Jan 2013 #48
THEY ARE CRIMINALS THEY DIDN'T GET THEM FROM A DEALER OR FILL OUT A FORM farminator3000 Jan 2013 #50
Which has nothing to do with Tiahardt. Keep dodging. n/t X_Digger Jan 2013 #51
no, tiahrt has EVERYTHING to do with this- because it is so totally awful farminator3000 Jan 2013 #54
That's not even internally consistent. X_Digger Jan 2013 #57
maybe because 'internally consistent' has no meaning? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #59
Lol, mediamatters flubbed up on the MI law.. X_Digger Jan 2013 #61
not if the a-holes at the NRA have their way, actually would be the truth farminator3000 Jan 2013 #64
Spoiler Alert: Stolen gun gets used in subsequent crime. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #18
update: there are about 500,000 stolen a year farminator3000 Jan 2013 #20
Not unusual Franker65 Jan 2013 #28
Gun stolen after being misplaced by court officer Two people in court Monday to face charges-today farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34
dont know why he left it in his car my glock is always on my hip unless im in the house loli phabay Jan 2013 #42
Story of another gun, that has no serial number, MadHound Jan 2013 #63
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