Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
16. It's a shame
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jan 2013

I have taken a hard look at the DSAUSA myself, as well as the Greens (Dr Jill Stein).

It's a pity we cannot bring the socialist ideals of these organisations back into the Democratic Party. I have long bemoaned the influence of the DLC on the Democratic Party. It MAY have made people like Bill Clinton more "electable"...but to me it did so by making the Democratic Party too "Republican-lite."

I think that the Democratic Party felt so cowed by 12 years of Reagan/Bush Snr. that they felt they had to adopt kind of a "me-too" strategy to a certain extent.

I voted for Bill Clinton in both '92 and '96, but my biggest disappointment with him was in '94 when he just rolled over and let the Republicans kick him on health care, and then jumped on "the era of 'big government' is over" train.

I was also disappointed that Mr. Obama (whom I voted for in both '08 and '12) has not pushed for single-payer health care. I think he is well-intentioned, and what we DID get from him is worlds ahead of anything the Republicans would have enacted (read: status quo, along with their bullshit about "tort reform," "buying across state lines," etc.), so I am grateful for that. I think he tried to get the GOP on board by taking the centrist approach, but surely he must have known that ANYTHING he would do with health care would be met with an automatic "NO!" by the Republicans, so why not go for it all?

We have never had a real workers' party in this country like UK OLD Labour, Canadian NDP, Australian Labour Party, etc., not at least since the days of LBJ.

So many times Republicans try to insult me by calling me a "socialist." I just say, "you say that like it's a bad thing!"

It's ashame the left lost control of the narrative in this country... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #1
Let's take it back Taverner Jan 2013 #2
As Lenin popularized political vanguardism, Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #4
+1 octoberlib Jan 2013 #6
Absolutely agree with you. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #8
I blame a lot of this problem on the Unions themselves. loudsue Jan 2013 #10
Unions can't spread their wings Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #13
Right! This also causes them to get triangulated with from BOTH directions, so they replicate splits patrice Jan 2013 #15
Which is one reason the Right doesn't want full employment. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #21
If only we had something with a megaphone to get that message to the people n/t Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #28
Don't worry, surely the "liberal media" will do it. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #30
I know...it's another tragdy of life in the US n/t Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #31
The Unions are collaborators. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #35
Moving the Overton Window. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #12
Well certainly modern politics... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #18
Good. Michael Harrington would be pleased cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #3
I have finally done it (mailed in the reg form on Friday) Dragonfli Jan 2013 #5
I don't know about stronger - but a clear voice inside the party Taverner Jan 2013 #27
Thanks for the link. It's time the US joined the western european countries loudsue Jan 2013 #7
My brother is a member. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #9
Keith Ellison wrote recently about the grassroots of the party. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #11
IT bears repeating: Obama is the best President we can get right now Taverner Jan 2013 #26
I wish I could recommend your post. loudsue Jan 2013 #33
Forgot to say "thanks"... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #14
It's a shame DissidentVoice Jan 2013 #16
"you say that like it's a bad thing!" Taverner Jan 2013 #25
There's also the Working Families Party... RevStPatrick Jan 2013 #17
I've gone to some DC DSA meetings Chathamization Jan 2013 #19
If you belief this is from the left BrainMann1 Jan 2013 #20
You're not very subtle are you? Flying Squirrel Jan 2013 #22
What do you mean? Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #23
Yep - Socialism is a pretty big tent Taverner Jan 2013 #24
In Europe, no this would be centrist (being they are mostly social democracies) Taverner Jan 2013 #29
I belief I'll take you up on that bridge! retread Jan 2013 #32
I like this idea liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #34
How do you get Democrats to accept "Socialist initiatives" regjoe Jan 2013 #36
The same way they got us to accept "work to welfare" Taverner Jan 2013 #37
Force it on us despite our objections? regjoe Jan 2013 #38
No - but do it with proper re-branding Taverner Jan 2013 #39
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Another way to save the D...»Reply #16