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In reply to the discussion: Game to destroy CCTV cameras: vandalism or valid protest? [View all]catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)147. A two edged sword
I just finished watching a recent (2008) Masterpiece Theater mini series called The Last Enemy. Story was set in the near future, in Britain, based around Big Govt surveillance, control of information etc. It has really left me thinking about how I feel about the idea, and now this comes up. While it does seem like it could be a good thing to use as evidence/ID in cases of crimes, it also could have some pretty scary ramifications depending on how far it is allowed to go.
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The STASI of East Germany loved any form of surveillance they could dream up.
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#61
I don't know, but your posts in this thread are making me want to get a closer look to find out
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#47
Hitler? Seriously? Do you really think Hitler would oppose government surveillance?
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#45
cameras though will show the cops or Paul Blart Zimmermans, were wrong ala Rodney King
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#14
Johannes Meserle has been out of prison for quite a while for shooting a handcuffed man in the back
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#15
Because of a gun and a bullet. We need MORE security and new laws to ban all guns from street
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#58
in the NY/NJ area there are tolls all over. EZ pass.They already have these things
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#62
You want more checkpoints and metal detectors? I don't want to live in your America
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#69
gun control don't work because of legal guns. All major mass shootings are legal guns.
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#70
As I said I support gun control, what I do not support is the mass surveillance you are proposing
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#71
It works in Israel, another democracy that has problems.And it works at airports now.
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#72
If it is working so well in Israel then I wonder why I hear so much about violence over there
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#73
I really don't think my friend would agree with you that more security would have saved his cousins
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#84
Why stop with public places? Far too many violent crimes take place inside private homes.
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#161
Your post about how cameras makes us safe probably sounds better in the original German. n/t
Ian David
Jan 2013
#35
They can also be used for other purposes -- to snoop on people for personal reasons.
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#168
You didn't make the suggestion to me, but I'll be more than happy to take you up on it.
Raksha
Jan 2013
#118
Do you really believe that by advancing the police state with cameras on all innocent people &
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#81
Those cameras you are salivating over WILL be used to limit your right to
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#157
One can travel worldwide. The cameras make it safer, and as for freedom
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#160
If you're talking Republican government yes they love cameras. If you're talking Republican
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#86
LOL, yes, firing a gun at a drone is legal. Where the hell did you read that? n-t
Logical
Jan 2013
#44
You've spent a lot of time defending your position and the watcher's position
DainBramaged
Jan 2013
#77
of course, he himself was a spy, which was convient for Drake to forget
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#79
+1 It's like concealed carry: the presumption that public places are to have the traits that certain
patrice
Jan 2013
#133
Does anyone see how similar this attitude is to being the Big Brother that it purports to resist? nt
patrice
Jan 2013
#144
It may be valid protest if the probability of being attacked in that particular place is less coerci
patrice
Jan 2013
#145
"The cameras can provide facial recognition at distances of up to 600 feet..."
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#41
cameras aren't looking for muggers. they are looking for terrorists and are needed
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#88
Vandalism. Only plays into the hands of those arguing for more surveillance. nt
EastKYLiberal
Jan 2013
#80
If you encourage hm to blather on about the goodness of full-time invasion of privacy
DainBramaged
Jan 2013
#129
The problem is that cameras that catch terrists can also be used to catch political opponents.
bemildred
Jan 2013
#98
There are FAR more political opponents than terrorists, so we all get ONE guess
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#164
Tear every god damned one of them down and praise the heros who do it, because its no game
1-Old-Man
Jan 2013
#106
It's possible this is more about bragging rights than it is about a remedy for the problem of
patrice
Jan 2013
#128
It's civil disobedience. Of course it's illegal, and property destruction. Do it anyways.
backscatter712
Jan 2013
#130
Right, so you're fine with the feds having your entire life on video...
backscatter712
Jan 2013
#149