No, you technically don't, (Reply #25)

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:12 AM

MadHound (34,179 posts)

25. No, you technically don't,

They took away that technicality long ago with the advent of cross country flights. Otherwise, people could charge for planes passing through their airspace.

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168 replies	Author	Time	Post
Game to destroy CCTV cameras: vandalism or valid protest? [View all]	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	OP
I would toss them in jail.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#1
-1	blkmusclmachine	Jan 2013	#3
Hitler would have purely loved him some security cameras	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#5
The STASI of East Germany loved any form of surveillance they could dream up.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#61
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#10
But who is the brick, and who is the wall?	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#12
I don't know, but your posts in this thread are making me want to get a closer look to find out	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#47
Not surprising that you're all for the National Surveillance State.	MadHound	Jan 2013	#19
'dey're like HEETLER!' No surprise from you. nt	Union Scribe	Jan 2013	#28
Hitler? Seriously? Do you really think Hitler would oppose government surveillance?	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#45
HOw can disabling spy cams lead to mass deaths????	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#46
They are security cameras. They are to stop terrorism and crime	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#66
How does a camera STOP crime?	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#74
By deterrence	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#104
Cameras don't STOP crime. And Hitler would have LOVED to have them to	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#155
Long live the state right?	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#56
I wouldn't toss them in jail.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#60
You're quite the silly little cartoon, aren't you? nt	Codeine	Jan 2013	#76
You are spectacular proof of how easy it is to game this board	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#85
+ a shitload	Systematic Chaos	Jan 2013	#110
+ extra cheese	chollybocker	Jan 2013	#126
Of course you would :)	idwiyo	Jan 2013	#91
lol	fishwax	Jan 2013	#125
And I imagine you approve of driving Aaron Swartz to suicide.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#131
I'm pretty sure Hitler would have tossed camera smashers in jail	Dead_Parrot	Jan 2013	#135
Move to the UK, you'll LOVE it there..	sir pball	Jan 2013	#151
One World, under surveillance.	blkmusclmachine	Jan 2013	#2
Depends on if they get caught or not if I were on a jury they would walk	stultusporcos	Jan 2013	#4
Would you believe I back Control over Kaos.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#6
A national security state is a one way ratchet..	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#8
Please ignore all my posts, I was not talking to you	stultusporcos	Jan 2013	#9
I don't ignore anybody. Feel free to ignore me.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#11
Cameras make you safe	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#13
cameras though will show the cops or Paul Blart Zimmermans, were wrong ala Rodney King	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#14
Johannes Meserle has been out of prison for quite a while for shooting a handcuffed man in the back	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#15
without the camera, there might have been zero time.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#33
The point is that cops can murder someone on camera and get away with it	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#37
Charmin with aloe. They already know I use that.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#54
Well, we just had 20 first graders and six teachers slaughtered	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#57
Because of a gun and a bullet. We need MORE security and new laws to ban all guns from street	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#58
Internal passports, that's what we need	Fumesucker	Jan 2013	#59
in the NY/NJ area there are tolls all over. EZ pass.They already have these things	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#62
You want more checkpoints and metal detectors? I don't want to live in your America	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#69
gun control don't work because of legal guns. All major mass shootings are legal guns.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#70
As I said I support gun control, what I do not support is the mass surveillance you are proposing	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#71
It works in Israel, another democracy that has problems.And it works at airports now.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#72
If it is working so well in Israel then I wonder why I hear so much about violence over there	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#73
then even more security is needed	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#83
I really don't think my friend would agree with you that more security would have saved his cousins	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#84
I don't play gotcha games or setups	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#87
That was not a gotcha, it was a fact	Bjorn Against	Jan 2013	#90
Wow...	im1013	Jan 2013	#105
Damn	EarthWindFire	Jan 2013	#127
Why stop with public places? Far too many violent crimes take place inside private homes.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#161
Hyperbole	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#163
Love how you are trying to weasel your way out of this.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#165
I already answered this yesterday	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#166
"if one is then not doing anything wrong, one has nothing to fear"	Union Scribe	Jan 2013	#30
There is no amount of state authority too much for this one.	X_Digger	Jan 2013	#68
You must really hate living in America. You'd be happier in London.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#158
Your post about how cameras makes us safe probably sounds better in the original German. n/t	Ian David	Jan 2013	#35
Well said	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#40
+1, n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#52
Thank you Dr. Suess	blueamy66	Jan 2013	#43
Cameras are a waste of money.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#63
I don't think that's how it usually works.	randome	Jan 2013	#103
They can also be used for other purposes -- to snoop on people for personal reasons.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#168
barbituates help you sleep	datasuspect	Jan 2013	#101
And people thought I was nuts for my rabid defense of Unions....	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#120
You didn't make the suggestion to me, but I'll be more than happy to take you up on it.	Raksha	Jan 2013	#118
So how's that RFID chip working out?	GoneOffShore	Jan 2013	#153
Yep, extreme authoritarian attitude.	hobbit709	Jan 2013	#38
Damn test wants you to sign up to get the results.	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#48
It wants you to but you don't have to I didn't.	hobbit709	Jan 2013	#49
It's all relative as to who is the watched and whom is the watcher ... and the	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#53
Do you really believe that by advancing the police state with cameras on all innocent people &	DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav	Jan 2013	#81
Those cameras you are salivating over WILL be used to limit your right to	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#157
One can travel worldwide. The cameras make it safer, and as for freedom	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#160
Why not both vandalism and protest?	Sam1	Jan 2013	#7
"All your images are belong to us." - Cam Corder	Berlum	Jan 2013	#16
Mayberry was safe, it didn't have any cameras and it only had one bullet. n/t	2on2u	Jan 2013	#17
Funny how Republicans love camera's...	trumad	Jan 2013	#18
Some Dems love em and want to live in a police state too	Lesmoderesstupides	Jan 2013	#21
I don't know any Democrats who wish for a police state.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#162
If you're talking Republican government yes they love cameras. If you're talking Republican	DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav	Jan 2013	#86
A beside the point reaction to a false overreaction	PATRICK	Jan 2013	#20
Doesn't matter, good on them,	MadHound	Jan 2013	#22
Technically you own the air space above your home	Lesmoderesstupides	Jan 2013	#24
No, you technically don't,	MadHound	Jan 2013	#25
GA and Com air have a right of way, just like the power company has	Lesmoderesstupides	Jan 2013	#27
There are dozens of cases in any decent law library that prove you wrong,	MadHound	Jan 2013	#29
Do property owners own airspace up to a certain ceiling?	Orrex	Jan 2013	#31
LOL, yes, firing a gun at a drone is legal. Where the hell did you read that? n-t	Logical	Jan 2013	#44
I am so mixed when it comes to CCTVs.	mwooldri	Jan 2013	#23
Many of the red light/speeding cameras are owned by for profit businesses	dixiegrrrrl	Jan 2013	#50
UK speeding cameras are run by local authorities.	mwooldri	Jan 2013	#82
The irony is thick	Gore1FL	Jan 2013	#26
that is the problem behind most modern day protests	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#34
You've spent a lot of time defending your position and the watcher's position	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#77
as #6 said, be seeing you	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#78
of course, he himself was a spy, which was convient for Drake to forget	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#79
He was property of US Government	flash514c	Jan 2013	#124
That is a very good point. n/t	Ian David	Jan 2013	#36
+1 It's like concealed carry: the presumption that public places are to have the traits that certain	patrice	Jan 2013	#133
Does anyone see how similar this attitude is to being the Big Brother that it purports to resist? nt	patrice	Jan 2013	#144
How is that an either/or formulation?	Orrex	Jan 2013	#32
+1 nt	Deep13	Jan 2013	#51
It may be valid protest if the probability of being attacked in that particular place is less coerci	patrice	Jan 2013	#145
Don't worry...	whistler162	Jan 2013	#39
"The cameras can provide facial recognition at distances of up to 600 feet..."	Fire Walk With Me	Jan 2013	#41
It's a valid protest	Demo_Chris	Jan 2013	#42
Protests such as this are vital, what you will see and as we already	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#55
It's a game, not a protest.	randome	Jan 2013	#67
Sounds like good fun, as long as you don't get caught. nt	bemildred	Jan 2013	#64
Criminals. Absence of cameras will make crime like mugging more common	geek tragedy	Jan 2013	#65
Muggers don't give a shit about cameras, and know where not to look	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#75
cameras aren't looking for muggers. they are looking for terrorists and are needed	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#88
Well here is where my Saturday went....	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#96
That is SO PAINFUL to see!!	im1013	Jan 2013	#112
Newsflash for you - public places are public	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#123
Vandalism. Only plays into the hands of those arguing for more surveillance. nt	EastKYLiberal	Jan 2013	#80
I wish my son's parking lot had a camera	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#89
Parking lots/garages are one thing	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#92
You know what..	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#93
Right...	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#94
Why should that matter?	randome	Jan 2013	#95
Where does it end?	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#97
Have you ever asked yourself about the "natural condition" of human society	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#99
I'm not sure what you're getting at	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#107
Maybe it ends just before we get to those things you list.	randome	Jan 2013	#100
I believe CCTV has already	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#109
If you encourage hm to blather on about the goodness of full-time invasion of privacy	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#129
+100	im1013	Jan 2013	#113
How is having them on subways different than parking lots?	Gore1FL	Jan 2013	#121
The problem is that cameras that catch terrists can also be used to catch political opponents.	bemildred	Jan 2013	#98
There are FAR more political opponents than terrorists, so we all get ONE guess	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#164
Vandalism.	kiva	Jan 2013	#102
Tear every god damned one of them down and praise the heros who do it, because its no game	1-Old-Man	Jan 2013	#106
I'm sure many women will feel safer walking out to a darkened parking lot.	randome	Jan 2013	#108
Looper	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#111
But who is to say which places are 'safe' without cameras?	randome	Jan 2013	#114
Well	whatchamacallit	Jan 2013	#116
I agree we should never be complaiscent.	randome	Jan 2013	#117
+1,000,000!!	im1013	Jan 2013	#115
That must be one huge monitoring center	Chico Man	Jan 2013	#139
Wait till the Monday crowd shows up	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#119
its vandalism	Takket	Jan 2013	#122
It's possible this is more about bragging rights than it is about a remedy for the problem of	patrice	Jan 2013	#128
It's civil disobedience. Of course it's illegal, and property destruction. Do it anyways.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#130
Please. No one is watching your every move	Chico Man	Jan 2013	#132
Delusional my ass.	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#134
Yes they save the footage	Chico Man	Jan 2013	#136
Right, so you're fine with the feds having your entire life on video...	backscatter712	Jan 2013	#149
The Feds don't have my entire life on video	Chico Man	Jan 2013	#150
Visit London	cthulu2016	Jan 2013	#138
They have cameras	Chico Man	Jan 2013	#140
As a preteen I asked the question, "Could it ever happen here?"	20score	Jan 2013	#137
Ideology over reality: ALL cameras are instances of hyper-surveillance, hurts the case for	patrice	Jan 2013	#141
Other then the spray painting I'm ok with it.	Arctic Dave	Jan 2013	#142
What would be really impressive	Chico Man	Jan 2013	#143
Whatever gets the job done works for me.	TheKentuckian	Jan 2013	#146
A two edged sword	catchnrelease	Jan 2013	#147
1984	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#148
Agree 100%. Also love the Brit habit of destroying speed cameras	Taverner	Jan 2013	#152
Oh noes!	abelenkpe	Jan 2013	#154
It's kind of sad that they do self-surveillance by posting the videos.	JVS	Jan 2013	#156
If we as a nation are resigned to allowing 310+ million guns	ecstatic	Jan 2013	#159
I'm much more concerned with the neighborhood resident..	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#167

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