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stultusporcos

(327 posts)
4. Depends on if they get caught or not if I were on a jury they would walk
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:43 AM
Jan 2013

Unlike some here I do not like living in a police state

I fully support any and all efforts at stopping, impeding and eliminating the police state.


I would toss them in jail. graham4anything Jan 2013 #1
-1 blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #3
Hitler would have purely loved him some security cameras Fumesucker Jan 2013 #5
The STASI of East Germany loved any form of surveillance they could dream up. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #61
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm DainBramaged Jan 2013 #10
But who is the brick, and who is the wall? graham4anything Jan 2013 #12
I don't know, but your posts in this thread are making me want to get a closer look to find out Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #47
Not surprising that you're all for the National Surveillance State. MadHound Jan 2013 #19
'dey're like HEETLER!' No surprise from you. nt Union Scribe Jan 2013 #28
Hitler? Seriously? Do you really think Hitler would oppose government surveillance? Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #45
HOw can disabling spy cams lead to mass deaths???? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #46
They are security cameras. They are to stop terrorism and crime graham4anything Jan 2013 #66
How does a camera STOP crime? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #74
By deterrence jberryhill Jan 2013 #104
Cameras don't STOP crime. And Hitler would have LOVED to have them to kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #155
Long live the state right? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #56
I wouldn't toss them in jail. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #60
You're quite the silly little cartoon, aren't you? nt Codeine Jan 2013 #76
You are spectacular proof of how easy it is to game this board whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #85
+ a shitload Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #110
+ extra cheese chollybocker Jan 2013 #126
Of course you would :) idwiyo Jan 2013 #91
lol fishwax Jan 2013 #125
And I imagine you approve of driving Aaron Swartz to suicide. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #131
I'm pretty sure Hitler would have tossed camera smashers in jail Dead_Parrot Jan 2013 #135
Move to the UK, you'll LOVE it there.. sir pball Jan 2013 #151
One World, under surveillance. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #2
Depends on if they get caught or not if I were on a jury they would walk stultusporcos Jan 2013 #4
Would you believe I back Control over Kaos. graham4anything Jan 2013 #6
A national security state is a one way ratchet.. Fumesucker Jan 2013 #8
Please ignore all my posts, I was not talking to you stultusporcos Jan 2013 #9
I don't ignore anybody. Feel free to ignore me. graham4anything Jan 2013 #11
Cameras make you safe DainBramaged Jan 2013 #13
cameras though will show the cops or Paul Blart Zimmermans, were wrong ala Rodney King graham4anything Jan 2013 #14
Johannes Meserle has been out of prison for quite a while for shooting a handcuffed man in the back Fumesucker Jan 2013 #15
without the camera, there might have been zero time. graham4anything Jan 2013 #33
The point is that cops can murder someone on camera and get away with it Fumesucker Jan 2013 #37
Charmin with aloe. They already know I use that. graham4anything Jan 2013 #54
Well, we just had 20 first graders and six teachers slaughtered Fumesucker Jan 2013 #57
Because of a gun and a bullet. We need MORE security and new laws to ban all guns from street graham4anything Jan 2013 #58
Internal passports, that's what we need Fumesucker Jan 2013 #59
in the NY/NJ area there are tolls all over. EZ pass.They already have these things graham4anything Jan 2013 #62
You want more checkpoints and metal detectors? I don't want to live in your America Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #69
gun control don't work because of legal guns. All major mass shootings are legal guns. graham4anything Jan 2013 #70
As I said I support gun control, what I do not support is the mass surveillance you are proposing Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #71
It works in Israel, another democracy that has problems.And it works at airports now. graham4anything Jan 2013 #72
If it is working so well in Israel then I wonder why I hear so much about violence over there Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #73
then even more security is needed graham4anything Jan 2013 #83
I really don't think my friend would agree with you that more security would have saved his cousins Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #84
I don't play gotcha games or setups graham4anything Jan 2013 #87
That was not a gotcha, it was a fact Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #90
Wow... im1013 Jan 2013 #105
Damn EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #127
Why stop with public places? Far too many violent crimes take place inside private homes. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #161
Hyperbole graham4anything Jan 2013 #163
Love how you are trying to weasel your way out of this. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #165
I already answered this yesterday graham4anything Jan 2013 #166
"if one is then not doing anything wrong, one has nothing to fear" Union Scribe Jan 2013 #30
There is no amount of state authority too much for this one. X_Digger Jan 2013 #68
You must really hate living in America. You'd be happier in London. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #158
Your post about how cameras makes us safe probably sounds better in the original German. n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #35
Well said DainBramaged Jan 2013 #40
+1, n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #52
Thank you Dr. Suess blueamy66 Jan 2013 #43
Cameras are a waste of money. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #63
I don't think that's how it usually works. randome Jan 2013 #103
They can also be used for other purposes -- to snoop on people for personal reasons. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #168
barbituates help you sleep datasuspect Jan 2013 #101
And people thought I was nuts for my rabid defense of Unions.... DainBramaged Jan 2013 #120
You didn't make the suggestion to me, but I'll be more than happy to take you up on it. Raksha Jan 2013 #118
So how's that RFID chip working out? GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #153
Yep, extreme authoritarian attitude. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #38
Damn test wants you to sign up to get the results. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #48
It wants you to but you don't have to I didn't. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #49
It's all relative as to who is the watched and whom is the watcher ... and the RKP5637 Jan 2013 #53
Do you really believe that by advancing the police state with cameras on all innocent people & DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #81
Those cameras you are salivating over WILL be used to limit your right to kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #157
One can travel worldwide. The cameras make it safer, and as for freedom graham4anything Jan 2013 #160
Why not both vandalism and protest? Sam1 Jan 2013 #7
"All your images are belong to us." - Cam Corder Berlum Jan 2013 #16
Mayberry was safe, it didn't have any cameras and it only had one bullet. n/t 2on2u Jan 2013 #17
Funny how Republicans love camera's... trumad Jan 2013 #18
Some Dems love em and want to live in a police state too Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #21
I don't know any Democrats who wish for a police state. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #162
If you're talking Republican government yes they love cameras. If you're talking Republican DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #86
A beside the point reaction to a false overreaction PATRICK Jan 2013 #20
Doesn't matter, good on them, MadHound Jan 2013 #22
Technically you own the air space above your home Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #24
No, you technically don't, MadHound Jan 2013 #25
GA and Com air have a right of way, just like the power company has Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #27
There are dozens of cases in any decent law library that prove you wrong, MadHound Jan 2013 #29
Do property owners own airspace up to a certain ceiling? Orrex Jan 2013 #31
LOL, yes, firing a gun at a drone is legal. Where the hell did you read that? n-t Logical Jan 2013 #44
I am so mixed when it comes to CCTVs. mwooldri Jan 2013 #23
Many of the red light/speeding cameras are owned by for profit businesses dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #50
UK speeding cameras are run by local authorities. mwooldri Jan 2013 #82
The irony is thick Gore1FL Jan 2013 #26
that is the problem behind most modern day protests graham4anything Jan 2013 #34
You've spent a lot of time defending your position and the watcher's position DainBramaged Jan 2013 #77
as #6 said, be seeing you graham4anything Jan 2013 #78
of course, he himself was a spy, which was convient for Drake to forget graham4anything Jan 2013 #79
He was property of US Government flash514c Jan 2013 #124
That is a very good point. n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #36
+1 It's like concealed carry: the presumption that public places are to have the traits that certain patrice Jan 2013 #133
Does anyone see how similar this attitude is to being the Big Brother that it purports to resist? nt patrice Jan 2013 #144
How is that an either/or formulation? Orrex Jan 2013 #32
+1 nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #51
It may be valid protest if the probability of being attacked in that particular place is less coerci patrice Jan 2013 #145
Don't worry... whistler162 Jan 2013 #39
"The cameras can provide facial recognition at distances of up to 600 feet..." Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #41
It's a valid protest Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #42
Protests such as this are vital, what you will see and as we already Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #55
It's a game, not a protest. randome Jan 2013 #67
Sounds like good fun, as long as you don't get caught. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #64
Criminals. Absence of cameras will make crime like mugging more common geek tragedy Jan 2013 #65
Muggers don't give a shit about cameras, and know where not to look DainBramaged Jan 2013 #75
cameras aren't looking for muggers. they are looking for terrorists and are needed graham4anything Jan 2013 #88
Well here is where my Saturday went.... jberryhill Jan 2013 #96
That is SO PAINFUL to see!! im1013 Jan 2013 #112
Newsflash for you - public places are public jberryhill Jan 2013 #123
Vandalism. Only plays into the hands of those arguing for more surveillance. nt EastKYLiberal Jan 2013 #80
I wish my son's parking lot had a camera jberryhill Jan 2013 #89
Parking lots/garages are one thing whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #92
You know what.. jberryhill Jan 2013 #93
Right... whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #94
Why should that matter? randome Jan 2013 #95
Where does it end? whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #97
Have you ever asked yourself about the "natural condition" of human society jberryhill Jan 2013 #99
I'm not sure what you're getting at whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #107
Maybe it ends just before we get to those things you list. randome Jan 2013 #100
I believe CCTV has already whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #109
If you encourage hm to blather on about the goodness of full-time invasion of privacy DainBramaged Jan 2013 #129
+100 im1013 Jan 2013 #113
How is having them on subways different than parking lots? Gore1FL Jan 2013 #121
The problem is that cameras that catch terrists can also be used to catch political opponents. bemildred Jan 2013 #98
There are FAR more political opponents than terrorists, so we all get ONE guess kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #164
Vandalism. kiva Jan 2013 #102
Tear every god damned one of them down and praise the heros who do it, because its no game 1-Old-Man Jan 2013 #106
I'm sure many women will feel safer walking out to a darkened parking lot. randome Jan 2013 #108
Looper whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #111
But who is to say which places are 'safe' without cameras? randome Jan 2013 #114
Well whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #116
I agree we should never be complaiscent. randome Jan 2013 #117
+1,000,000!! im1013 Jan 2013 #115
That must be one huge monitoring center Chico Man Jan 2013 #139
Wait till the Monday crowd shows up DainBramaged Jan 2013 #119
its vandalism Takket Jan 2013 #122
It's possible this is more about bragging rights than it is about a remedy for the problem of patrice Jan 2013 #128
It's civil disobedience. Of course it's illegal, and property destruction. Do it anyways. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #130
Please. No one is watching your every move Chico Man Jan 2013 #132
Delusional my ass. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #134
Yes they save the footage Chico Man Jan 2013 #136
Right, so you're fine with the feds having your entire life on video... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #149
The Feds don't have my entire life on video Chico Man Jan 2013 #150
Visit London cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #138
They have cameras Chico Man Jan 2013 #140
As a preteen I asked the question, "Could it ever happen here?" 20score Jan 2013 #137
Ideology over reality: ALL cameras are instances of hyper-surveillance, hurts the case for patrice Jan 2013 #141
Other then the spray painting I'm ok with it. Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #142
What would be really impressive Chico Man Jan 2013 #143
Whatever gets the job done works for me. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #146
A two edged sword catchnrelease Jan 2013 #147
1984 DainBramaged Jan 2013 #148
Agree 100%. Also love the Brit habit of destroying speed cameras Taverner Jan 2013 #152
Oh noes! abelenkpe Jan 2013 #154
It's kind of sad that they do self-surveillance by posting the videos. JVS Jan 2013 #156
If we as a nation are resigned to allowing 310+ million guns ecstatic Jan 2013 #159
I'm much more concerned with the neighborhood resident.. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #167
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