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In reply to the discussion: I never knew LBJ was so crass.... [View all]Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)37. He was a very good teacher.
His first job out of college was in a small town near the Mexico/USBorder. A lot of his students were either illegal and they all were very poor.
LBJ refused to accept crap work from them. He told them they could do the work and through force of his will he got them to try. He would help them, but he did not take excuses.
He grew up in poverty too. That's why he tried to pass the programs he did and why he worked with those kids.
In addition, if he hadn't been ruthless and knew how the system worked, lawd only knows when the Hill Country of Texas and other areas would have gotten electricity.
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Hard to believe, 'knowing' her (just having observed,) but anything's possible.
elleng
Jan 2013
#116
I am not going to 'judge' Doris, or hold her to a standard that wasn't operative at the time
MADem
Jan 2013
#126
Just my personal opinion, but LBJ pushed the 1964 Civil Rights Bill because he knew....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#50
"I'd rather have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside pissing in." LBJ on Hoover. Crass?
panzerfaust
Jan 2013
#40
Robert Caro is working on Volume 5 of an incredible biography of LBJ...
Sekhmets Daughter
Jan 2013
#52
We had a presence since the Eisenhower administration, but Johnson substantially escalated the war
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2013
#106
LBJ did what the Kennedy's talked about, but NEVER did or were going to do-Civil rights
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#26
and he was a better President and man than Thomas Jefferson was. By far.
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#43
Read the 1964 book entitled, "A Texan Looks at Lyndon", by J. Evetts Haley....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#23
Thank you. Just placed my order for that book on Amazon based on your post.
no_hypocrisy
Jan 2013
#31
If you can point out a few Haley's facts they you believe are fabrications,....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#49
Ah! Now we get to the true point of your angst! Good luck to you as well in a world...
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#64
Disagree 100% on "right wing hatchet job". See my earlier responses in this thread....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#83
LBJ never pushed legislation unless he could personally or politically benefit from doing so.....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#88
Howard Stern has been playing that phone call for years now on his show and goofing on it
stultusporcos
Jan 2013
#24
Maybe you should read more books about LBJ other than those intended to cast LBJ....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#89
I've noticed that when some posters get backed into a corner, or can't respond with....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#109
He used to hold "meetings" with staffers while he was sitting on the crapper.
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#35
He probably had insufficient roughage in his diet--a bit more might have helped his heart, too.
MADem
Jan 2013
#121
He once told the press corps, "I've got to go now boys. I need to remind Hubert (VP Humphrey) ...
11 Bravo
Jan 2013
#39
Yes he was I read once he even had talks with people while in was sitting on the toilet.
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#51
Same here. Some said how unutterably low-class, but one historian pointed out that kings...
Hekate
Jan 2013
#57
Did he grow up on a farm, do you know? He might have grown up with out houses and
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#58
I think most of the bad history re LBJ is the "elite" revulsion to rural/Southern habits.
Eleanors38
Jan 2013
#102
I got news for you that is a world wide attitude. Rural farm areas have terrible attitudes about
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#124
I am not crass, but there have been times when I have let out an uncontrollable
bluestate10
Jan 2013
#114
Exactly. We can control some things with diet. I have been in meetings after having a salad or
bluestate10
Jan 2013
#131
LBJ was a complicated man; the best and most thorough biography of him is Caro's.
northoftheborder
Jan 2013
#128