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7. Here is an Idea

Reply to farminator3000 (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:57 AM

Jan 2013

Move to Japan. This is America. We have guns and always will.

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Even gangsters live in fear of Japan’s gun laws by Jake Adelstein [View all] farminator3000 Jan 2013 OP

Can't argue with their murder rate MightyMopar Jan 2013 #1

They do have a bit of a suicide problem however.. pipoman Jan 2013 #2

In Japanese culture there is a long history of honorable suicide, such as ritual suicide by Samurai farminator3000 Jan 2013 #3

Harakiri. It even has a name. marybourg Jan 2013 #4

Seppuku. Harakiri is sort of slang. /nt TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #28

You are correct.. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #38

They wouldn't have so many names if it weren't ingrained marybourg Jan 2013 #48

Yeah, I don't think so.. pipoman Jan 2013 #6

that is terrible logic. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #13

I didn't know we were talking about pipoman Jan 2013 #15

16% of gun owners leave their guns loaded and unlocked farminator3000 Jan 2013 #17

The simple logic pipoman Jan 2013 #20

japanese people have more concept of honor and hurt themselves before others. duh. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #22

if 22 per 100,000 is twice 17 per 100,000, you might want to check your math farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23

You are correct legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #49

thanks! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #50

Someone on a thread here gave a stat that said the number of gun deaths in the USA was misconstrued. freshwest Jan 2013 #24

here's two articles farminator3000 Jan 2013 #40

Thanks... Someone posted an excerpt from a writer who saw the Forbes article. Guns make it easier. freshwest Jan 2013 #43

"Nobody commits suicide because of the presence of a gun". DanTex Jan 2013 #33

Thank you for this input thucythucy Jan 2013 #35

Exactly! With 'little planning during a short-term crisis' that's the truth. freshwest Jan 2013 #44

well mental health professionals DO think so so stop it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39

All have more restrictive gun laws than the US...all of them.. pipoman Jan 2013 #57

take a look at your original statement again. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #58

OK pipoman Jan 2013 #59

stay with me here- if someone is homicidally pissed at someone they also love, they might use farminator3000 Jan 2013 #63

Ifs and mights pipoman Jan 2013 #68

no, fact and facts. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #69

three more murder suicides in the 20 hours since post #17- incomplete list farminator3000 Jan 2013 #64

OK? pipoman Jan 2013 #70

What does that have to do with anything? This is a well known RBKA extremist talking point. MightyMopar Jan 2013 #32

Actually calling things you disagree with a talking point is a talking point.. pipoman Jan 2013 #60

You mean like changing the subject from Japan's huge success with gun control to something else? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #73

Yeah, luckily in America we don't have a bit of a suicide problem. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #42

"A suicide problem" pipoman Jan 2013 #62

Japan's murder rate is understated legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #46

damn, you're good! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #51

" if a father kills himself, his spouse and two children, Japan counts it as 4 suicides," redqueen Jan 2013 #55

International comparisons are dangerous legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #61

Yeah, we'll just require gang members to come in and take tests. Skip Intro Jan 2013 #5

what about all the illegal dealers? just selling guns to gang members w/ no BG check is preferable? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #9

If you believe that 40% of all guns do not go through a background check then you are an idiot. Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #18

how many, then, if you are the expert? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #21

You didn't read the post correctly, you know that right? uponit7771 Jan 2013 #26

i said 40% are COMPLETELY illegal- no BG check is MUCH higher! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53

Here is an Idea Berserker Jan 2013 #7

Have fun being the next Randy Weaver Electric Monk Jan 2013 #10

try this farminator3000 Jan 2013 #14

No, actually we won't quaker bill Jan 2013 #25

I dont know Locrian Jan 2013 #74

I agree with the sentiment quaker bill Jan 2013 #75

Japan has guns too, the government just doesn't support mass murder uponit7771 Jan 2013 #27

Nailed it. freshwest Jan 2013 #45

Japan has very few guns legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #47

Here's the link you forgot Electric Monk Jan 2013 #8

whoops! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #11

funny how all the gunners start whooping without actually reading the whole thing, huh? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #12

They have the kind of gun control I'd be more comfortable with... EastKYLiberal Jan 2013 #16

Are you implying the constitution and bill of rights are outdated, and should be ignored? Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #19

Only wingers think that but only on the issue of voting uponit7771 Jan 2013 #29

No, just that they should be interpreted in line with... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #30

Germany has similar stringent laws for its gun owners. no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #31

THEY ARE NAZIS OH MY GOD THEY WILL COME TO TAKE THE GUNZ!!! (joke) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #41

Not Nazi Germany. Not according to this poster at DKos arendt Jan 2013 #76

Clarification: "Modern" Germany. no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #77

Apologies. You did say "has". I was distracted... arendt Jan 2013 #78

It's OK. no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #79

"The fewer guns that are out there, the safer Japan is." DanTex Jan 2013 #34

I actually know AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #36

Yeah, but do they prosecute minor drug offenders like we do? sadbear Jan 2013 #37

Ah so... clydefrand Jan 2013 #52

THAT is the way gun ownership should be approached in the U.S.... mike_c Jan 2013 #54

15 f'in seconds. grow up, all of you gun bunnies farminator3000 Jan 2013 #56

This is why I like Japan LittleBlue Jan 2013 #65

Gun control advocates march as nation reels from school shootings farminator3000 Jan 2013 #66

not to mention the food farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67

Japan's homicide rate (total) is ¼ of our non-gun homicide rate krispos42 Jan 2013 #71

9,369 divided by 47 = our gun murder rate is ~200 times higher than japan's farminator3000 Jan 2013 #72