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61. You just posted exactly what I said

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 05:09 AM

Jan 2013

All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.

"And". it has to both be a semi-automatic with detachable magazines and have one of the listed features.

A ban-compliant AR like Lanza had has only one of those features, a pistol grip. So, when the manufacturer changes the grip shape so it's not a pistol grip anymore, and renames it something that's not on the list of prohibited names, it's legal. Do you see that?

That's what I mean when I say it's a regulation of what a semi-automatic rifle can look like. Because that's what it does.

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If Twenty Dead First Graders Won't Do It... And Six Dead Adults... What Will ??? [View all] WillyT Jan 2013 OP

The inevitable blue takeover of America. onehandle Jan 2013 #1

There have been many more deaths since then and they are not going to make an impact either ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #2

The Only Thing That Might Do It Is If A Bunch Of GOPPER Politicians Or Gun Nuts TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #3

reassemble the Black Panthers BainsBane Jan 2013 #4

That May Have Been The Case In 1967... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #8

alternately, congress could pay attention to public opinion BainsBane Jan 2013 #12

Not With Rushpublicans In Control Of The House... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #15

we make them pay for their intransigence BainsBane Jan 2013 #17

Except... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #19

so is this all your way of discouraging action? BainsBane Jan 2013 #21

I'm An Observer... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #57

Wow, I appreciate your efforts BainsBane Jan 2013 #79

Do what? MrSlayer Jan 2013 #5

Free guns for poor people Nevernose Jan 2013 #6

LOL !!! - Nevernose Speaks Truth !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #7

Quite true! Ian Iam Jan 2013 #14

Trust Me: That's Been Advocated In The DU Gun Control/RKBA Group (Or Its Predecessor). Paladin Jan 2013 #78

Nail on the head! Perfect! Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #111

If you look at American history, major change came with supermajorities in both the House/Senate. Selatius Jan 2013 #9

Won't do what, exactly? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #10

all of the measures in the president's plan BainsBane Jan 2013 #13

IMO, the AWB is DOA. I don't think it can pass. MAYBE the magazine ban. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #18

Everyone knows they don't account for a majority of murders BainsBane Jan 2013 #20

No, it's not Recursion Jan 2013 #30

No, that is not the point BainsBane Jan 2013 #50

If that is your goal, you will find this law very disappointing Recursion Jan 2013 #51

so write to Feinstein and suggest how to improve it BainsBane Jan 2013 #53

I've written my Congresswoman, who can't vote in the House Recursion Jan 2013 #54

so you don't want any law? BainsBane Jan 2013 #55

Two things you apparently missed Recursion Jan 2013 #56

um, you're mistaken BainsBane Jan 2013 #58

You just posted exactly what I said Recursion Jan 2013 #61

Yes BainsBane Jan 2013 #63

That is the $64,000 question Recursion Jan 2013 #65

no one champions this for political mileage BainsBane Jan 2013 #67

She seems to be holding the actual text close to the vest..I think there is something jmg257 Jan 2013 #71

also see BainsBane Jan 2013 #60

I like the large-magazine ban. Recursion Jan 2013 #62

it's called politics BainsBane Jan 2013 #64

Forgive me if I'm not ecstatic about her chiming in here Recursion Jan 2013 #66

no, I don't know much about her BainsBane Jan 2013 #68

Congress is not the least bit interested in effective gun legislation. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #113

So how many murders does it take? Nevernose Jan 2013 #22

No amount of murders, because an AWB doesn't address the problem Recursion Jan 2013 #26

No amount of murders make the use of a logical fallacy OK in debate. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #36

I think 26 is statistically significant Nevernose Jan 2013 #74

Out of 8000 gun deaths a year? Recursion Jan 2013 #106

because if you really wanted to have an effect Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #70

hit.nail.head Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #96

The problem is the "it" Recursion Jan 2013 #11

a majority of the public agree with all the proposed BainsBane Jan 2013 #16

A majority also think the stimulus was pointless Recursion Jan 2013 #23

yeah, let's go with the multibillion dollar corporate gun lobby BainsBane Jan 2013 #25

People support the AWB because they think it's a semi auto ban (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #27

they support it because they've seen too BainsBane Jan 2013 #28

Given that activists on this board don't Recursion Jan 2013 #29

most people here don't own guns BainsBane Jan 2013 #31

Only 18 percent of gun owners hunt Recursion Jan 2013 #32

We know your against the ban because it doesn't go far enough, too jmg257 Jan 2013 #34

I would support a ban on semi autos with detachable magazines Recursion Jan 2013 #37

There will always be another chance...Just wait until the next mass massacre. jmg257 Jan 2013 #40

I think states are probably the way to go Recursion Jan 2013 #41

well, all I can say BainsBane Jan 2013 #46

I don't know. They are popular for reasons... Recursion Jan 2013 #47

what do they need them for? BainsBane Jan 2013 #49

Last I saw 60% or so support an AWB Recursion Jan 2013 #59

another question BainsBane Jan 2013 #81

Because after 1994 the sale of weapons skyrocketed Recursion Jan 2013 #88

polling shows 91% support background checks BainsBane Jan 2013 #92

80% support single payer as long as it isn't called that Recursion Jan 2013 #95

a criminologist told me BainsBane Jan 2013 #97

Ha! I was going to let that one go Recursion Jan 2013 #98

Impossible for the 1994 AWB to have reduced crime. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #138

not a single gun? BainsBane Jan 2013 #139

Bullshit Berserker Jan 2013 #72

Nate Silver says otherwise BainsBane Jan 2013 #76

Polls Berserker Jan 2013 #80

intelligent people BainsBane Jan 2013 #83

this is your idea of a personal attack BainsBane Jan 2013 #77

Only 22% of Democrats own guns Berserker Jan 2013 #85

Nate Silver BainsBane Jan 2013 #87

you are asserting the President, Vice President BainsBane Jan 2013 #89

I have to say that my knowledge of the difference is very small. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #33

The ten second version Recursion Jan 2013 #35

This has been dicussed over and over. The issue jmg257 Jan 2013 #38

And still we aren't talking about handguns Recursion Jan 2013 #39

Yep. You and I have talked this out, so not worth going thru again. :) Cheers! Nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #42

Tru dat Recursion Jan 2013 #43

I know! I really should be sleeping!! TGIF. Nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #44

Yeah... We're ALL In The The Little Short Bus Now... Huh ??? WillyT Jan 2013 #24

7 Adults - let's not forget Adam's Mom n/t condoleeza Jan 2013 #45

Many forget his mom. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #48

Maybe people blame her, I don't know condoleeza Jan 2013 #110

Because she dropped off the map much like her son. shill baby shill... Jan 2013 #136

Right. shill baby shill... Jan 2013 #135

The NRA has been fatally shot. Unfortunately getting the problem of Gun murderers will take 6+yrs graham4anything Jan 2013 #52

Ironically, I think the opposite is true metalbot Jan 2013 #109

Sorry, wrong thread. I thought this was about drones. cbrer Jan 2013 #69

One parent doing the EMMITT TILL Open Casket? exboyfil Jan 2013 #73

I think you have it wrong. Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2013 #75

Evil Suggestion: Somebody setting off "sound effects" of gun fire at a gun show? IdaBriggs Jan 2013 #82

evil indeed BainsBane Jan 2013 #84

It took 3,000 at one time to destroy the fourth amendment madville Jan 2013 #86

It is not destroyed. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #99

A large number of armed black men walking around with open carry licensees. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #90

Open carry normally does not require a license/permit. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #114

Even better. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #116

Waving a gun would probably get you a brandishing charge. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #117

They'd just be displaying their "appreciation" for guns. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #118

You probably need to brush up on your gun laws. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #119

I just added pictures to my last response ... is he ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #120

That would appear to be an entertainment show/demonstration. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #121

Whatever you say. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #122

Whatever _I_ say? ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #123

And, if a large number of black guys open carried in JC Penney, the SWAT team would be called. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #124

The response black guns carrying in JCP might depend on where you live. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #125

If they are "dressed well"???? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #127

Good advice. Would you like a hand up from your hole? ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #132

Looks like NOTHING Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #91

The killing actually has been declining ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #93

Well that is such a relief! I can sleep soundly tonight...nary a worry. Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #115

There will be a next time and there will be more families randr Jan 2013 #94

Well Said. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #100

Absolutely nothing will rightsideout Jan 2013 #101

Those people's conscience got lost in translation..The gun is their god.. Tikki Jan 2013 #102

Someone opening fire on a country club demwing Jan 2013 #103

you are absolute correct .. ships sinkings were not uncommon .. but nothing was done about it until srican69 Jan 2013 #105

Yes...that is it..but there must be more than 20 dead..here is something that might do it. Stuart G Jan 2013 #126

a mass shooting at the NRA headquarters srican69 Jan 2013 #104

I'm pretty sure that the last man standing in that one...WINS Tikki Jan 2013 #108

It would have to be in a red state, bigger and armed guards would have to also be victims. Then appleannie1 Jan 2013 #107

for some folks, the 2nd amendment trumps human life... spanone Jan 2013 #112

I have noticed when trolls are posting "definitions" and you point out banning all of them Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #128

Honestly? Probably a series of massacres LittleBlue Jan 2013 #129

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #130

Until the gun nuts are wiling to have a civil discussion, nothing will be done. liberal N proud Jan 2013 #131

THERE OUGHTTA BE A LAW!!!!! shill baby shill... Jan 2013 #133

Hey... shill baby shill... Jan 2013 #134

So fuckingly stoopid... shill baby shill... Jan 2013 #137