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jmg257

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57. Sure it does. But as I said just include all repeating arms.

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:01 PM

Jan 2013

As I also said, those that can't be separated via features will have to be specifically named,or handled via capacity...both in the number of rounds for ammunition feeding devices and the number of those devices you can legally possess.

Pass a law banning all semis that can take a detachable magazine greater then 5 rounds would have a tremendous affect. But gunners will complain that includes their Remington 7400 or HK P2000, so you add a feature test to help keep their guns legal. You also call out "SKS is an AW", "M1 Carbine is an AW" to cause those to be registered and/or untransferable.

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What's the best source to debunk the crazy rumors that no semi-auto rifle was used at Sandy Hook? [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 OP

Here... lamp_shade Jan 2013 #1

Perfect. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #2

Thanks newblewtoo Jan 2013 #5

Thanks for that. kentuck Jan 2013 #34

You might get what I got. doccraig67 Jan 2013 #94

The sheriff held a presser yesterday. Here's the link > > lamp_shade Jan 2013 #98

Here WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #3

Thanks. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #4

The school had a camera system Heimer Jan 2013 #6

The murderer was not buzzed in, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #9

he shot through the glass door farminator3000 Jan 2013 #11

I believe we've all heard and read enough information.. Heimer Jan 2013 #12

It's well known that facts have a liberal bias. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #15

how is the police statement not a fact? so you do believe they are lying? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #17

everyone should see H. Wayne Carver speak to the press green for victory Jan 2013 #99

the official police statement from the .gov JanMichael Jan 2013 #27

It's only a fact if it comes from the lips of a Faux Snooz kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #53

Enjoy your stay............. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #37

I don't understand all the snootiness Heimer Jan 2013 #87

So does this mean you think Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #88

None of the above really. Heimer Jan 2013 #90

Help me out here; Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #91

i just read Columbine by Dave Cullen..... ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #93

Yeah, he's on his way to slaughter elementary school children, but he obediently waits Aristus Jan 2013 #96

While it is untrue that no semi-automatic rifle was used at Sandy Hook, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #7

how does it get from 'NBC made a mistake' to a giant conspiracy? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #14

Try here...CT State Police & CT Emergency Services jmg257 Jan 2013 #8

The Gun Militants Have Been Using A Very Narrow "Assault Rifle" Definition.... Paladin Jan 2013 #10

wat lolwat Jan 2013 #16

LOLWAT?!?!?!? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #18

Yep - and new bills will/have address/ed such weapons. jmg257 Jan 2013 #19

? lolwat Jan 2013 #22

Bring out the Mirt. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #24

It is an assault weapon and will be/has been codfied as such. jmg257 Jan 2013 #25

Until the manufacturer changes the shape of the grip Recursion Jan 2013 #31

Then the law will need to be adjusted. Capacity will also be addressed. jmg257 Jan 2013 #35

What's the point of doing a ban of just a subset of repeating arms with detachable mags? Recursion Jan 2013 #42

Because any comprehensive bill that would substantially reduce the number of 'all' guns jmg257 Jan 2013 #52

They don't have higher rate of fire, higher capacity, or faster reloads. They just don't. Recursion Jan 2013 #54

Sure it does. But as I said just include all repeating arms. jmg257 Jan 2013 #57

Why leave equally-capable guns legal? Recursion Jan 2013 #58

Are you not reading what I wrote? BECAUSE GUNNERS WON'T LET YOU MAKE THEM ILLEGAL! jmg257 Jan 2013 #59

How is it a good place to start? Sales of newly-compliant models will skyrocket Recursion Jan 2013 #61

Hmm...maybe you missed the part about having an authority constantly update the banned list? jmg257 Jan 2013 #63

You're still not decreasing the actual amount of weapons in circulation Recursion Jan 2013 #64

Who says? Registration? Non-transferable? Confiscation of contraband? Criminal Penalties? Sure jmg257 Jan 2013 #65

A semi-auto manufacture/import ban is a bridge too far, but you're talking confiscation? Recursion Jan 2013 #68

You want to address current numbers...that's how you do it. jmg257 Jan 2013 #70

why would the military definition apply to society? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26

I don't care what you call it or define it Sugarcoated Jan 2013 #20

Then start banning based on that, and stop banning based on grip shape Recursion Jan 2013 #29

you are the only one going sideways farminator3000 Jan 2013 #32

The "2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test" means banning that grip shape Recursion Jan 2013 #36

the reason for having a pistol grip seems negligable farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39

OK, so Colt makes an AR with a different grip shape. What's been accomplished? Recursion Jan 2013 #40

first of all, banning 30 and 100 round mags. then, slowing (or HALTING) sales of ARs farminator3000 Jan 2013 #45

BWAH! Recursion Jan 2013 #47

why do you say 'we'? you are not on 'our' side? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73

I am a Democrat, so you can take that "not on our side" thing to the cleaners Recursion Jan 2013 #74

i have to go to a solar power meeting farminator3000 Jan 2013 #76

Yes, now you get it! PLEASE just give up about the grip! (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #78

Problem is gunners want their hunting rifles and pistols. Otherwise jmg257 Jan 2013 #33

I think there's this fantasy that mass shooters won't use hunting-styled semi-automatic weapons... Recursion Jan 2013 #38

no, there's a reality that if any yahoo couldn't walk into a walmart and buy ARs with 1000 rounds farminator3000 Jan 2013 #41

Right, and you want them to buy an AR with a differently shaped grip Recursion Jan 2013 #43

the grip is one of many example of how military things are used by civilians, which is silly farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46

How does it make the gun more dangerous? (It actually makes it safer) Recursion Jan 2013 #48

riiiight... people are buying rifles with pistol grips because they are concerned about safety! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #55

Sniper rifles almost never have pistol grips because snipers fire prone or supported, generally Recursion Jan 2013 #56

do a google image search for sniper rifle and tell me what you see farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67

Background check laws are great Recursion Jan 2013 #69

what about holmes, lanza, griego? since july? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #71

AR's aren't the problem Recursion Jan 2013 #72

not true at all. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #75

Most do. Look it up in mother jones. Recursion Jan 2013 #77

no, i think ARs are frivolous and there are already way too many farminator3000 Jan 2013 #49

I literally do not understand your thought process Recursion Jan 2013 #50

likewise, i'm sure! you are preferable to most gun lubbers, i'll give you that! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #60

What does the magazine have to do with the gun? Recursion Jan 2013 #79

i'm fairly certain it feeds the deadly chunks of lead up to the barrel at a very high rate farminator3000 Jan 2013 #95

That at least makes sense Recursion Jan 2013 #97

nice first post, that's really helpful. you know a lot about gunz, huh? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #21

Your nit-picking is bullshit. 27 people DEAD, including 20 fucking kids, who gives a fuck what Mnemosyne Jan 2013 #28

The Gun Militancy Movement No Longer Gets To Control The Vocabulary. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #81

Actually the opposite is true. The general public has been using an expanded, inaccurate definition PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #23

not at all. the LAWS have been using a definition. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #30

"Assault rifle" v "assault weapon" is a pretty simple distingtion sir pball Jan 2013 #44

Repost from response... Live Hearing on SH Investigation at 10:30 am jmg257 Jan 2013 #13

Are you kidding me? Why bother with batshit crazy crap? lonestarnot Jan 2013 #51

Normally, I wouldn't. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #84

i dont understand why people here insist on arguing with empty-headed jackasses but if you must leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #62

It may be true that by Conn. legal definition the semi-auto rifle was not an "assault weapon" aikoaiko Jan 2013 #66

i just point and double over in laughter.. frylock Jan 2013 #80

Ultimately the official police report will be released jambo101 Jan 2013 #82

To do it "definitively" will take a while; the police haven't issued their final report yet Recursion Jan 2013 #83

The conspiracy nuts don't need early false reports Sugarcoated Jan 2013 #86

Shit man Dpm12 Jan 2013 #85

I haven't heard that rumor. egduj Jan 2013 #89

I don't care which fucking excuse the gun humpers Zoeisright Jan 2013 #92