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OldDem2012

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56. You might want to read this 2011 article from the NY Times.....
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:52 AM
Jan 2013
For Soldiers, Death Sees No Gender Lines

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Servicewomen have died in all of America’s wars, but usually they were support personnel such as nurses and clerks. In Afghanistan, most women who have died were killed in combat situations, as Specialist Snyder was, despite the military’s official prohibition on women in combat jobs.

The same has been true in Iraq, where 111 female soldiers have died, according to data compiled by icasualties.org, an independent organization that tracks military fatalities. In both wars, 60 percent of those deaths are classified by the military as due to hostile acts.


According to icasualties.org, 45 servicewomen have now died in Afghanistan, mostly due to IED and hostile fire.

We Ladies are now in the FIGHT!!!!! [View all] Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 OP
It's a win-win situation. liberalmuse Jan 2013 #1
Look! Not all male solders are like that and painting them... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #2
Hear! Hear! CherokeeDem Jan 2013 #4
I have a very hard question for you. Whisp Jan 2013 #5
If you disagree with a war, disagree with the war, not with women's right to fight. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #7
"Right to fight"? Is that like a homeless person's "freedom"? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #73
No. A women who joins the military should be able to do whatever job she is capable of. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #76
Reminds me of Kristofferson ... Bake Jan 2013 #127
Did you ever hear a man tell you that "till... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #10
I don't believe this will equalize anything for women Whisp Jan 2013 #12
It will equalize 'pay and promotions'. See comment #9. n/t Tx4obama Jan 2013 #15
I did see that. And that is what it should have been and should be. Whisp Jan 2013 #57
And all of it is the reason we MUST keep.. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #17
Are you going to your recruiter? SQUEE Jan 2013 #94
are you harassing that poster because she is aggreeing with this decision by the Pentagon? CreekDog Jan 2013 #115
sexist because i asked if she is willing to go "enjoy" her victory? SQUEE Jan 2013 #118
Yes, I take it that Women in the Military wanted this.. Cha Jan 2013 #43
Kudo to you. Now you will have the opportunity to die on the field of battle. Whoooo Hoooo southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #80
Women die in war whether they are allowed to fight or not. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #6
What Panetta is doing is much more than what is being talked about ... Tx4obama Jan 2013 #9
excellent post. thank you tx4. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #11
thanks for that info, Tx. Whisp Jan 2013 #13
the real distinction... actslikeacarrot Jan 2013 #60
Yes! Thank you! Sissyk Jan 2013 #66
I was somewhat torn on this until I read your post. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #68
Excellent post! Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #92
Or maybe it will start a change in the culture within our military. Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #98
I started to make a long response to this backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #154
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Jan 2013 #3
then surely we can drop ladies and be women, while carrying guns and killing, lol. seabeyond Jan 2013 #8
I disagree! Still ladies! lonestarnot Jan 2013 #14
ah, so we will be sure to cross our legs properly and of course the men fighting will be seabeyond Jan 2013 #16
Yes, ladies and gentlemen. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #19
come on. we do not call our men in battle gentleman. seabeyond Jan 2013 #23
Goodnight oh lonestarnot Jan 2013 #24
I fount that video last night. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #21
If they knew you, seabeyond, it would be a different story! pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #27
No, you shouldn't drop ladies. Well, not unless they're paratroopers. Bucky Jan 2013 #78
ha ha ha. ya, didnt even have to finish reading before seabeyond Jan 2013 #79
You ladies have already been in the fight pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #18
But now we can be, as stated by Tx4obama, classified as being in combat. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #20
But more important than equal pay is equal opportunity pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #22
Yes it is! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #25
We've been in the fight for a long time Warpy Jan 2013 #26
Let's take this victory and use the momentum! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #29
Pardon me? Aviation Pro Jan 2013 #28
There are women that can do that! Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #32
Pardon me? pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #33
what's with all the pardon me's? La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2013 #122
lol! Sissyk Jan 2013 #125
like men, women will train for it eShirl Jan 2013 #46
You might want to read this 2011 article from the NY Times..... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #56
or have to carry a 250 lb wounded male soldier to safety. datasuspect Jan 2013 #61
are you posting sexism? CreekDog Jan 2013 #111
yes really datasuspect Jan 2013 #140
remember when your account was banned for offensive posts? CreekDog Jan 2013 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author datasuspect Jan 2013 #143
let me know when that's easy for a man. DevonRex Jan 2013 #132
Why not? eShirl Jan 2013 #134
maybe not so much datasuspect Jan 2013 #141
I carried a man about 135 roughly half a block while in shock. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #149
are you saying women can't? CreekDog Jan 2013 #112
let me know when you've carried a baby for 9 months CreekDog Jan 2013 #116
Not germane Aviation Pro Jan 2013 #117
yes, your OP is so bad that it's in Meta CreekDog Jan 2013 #120
Let me know when we use the Way Back Machine DevonRex Jan 2013 #131
Was at Ft McClellan, AL in 1971 when this was coming to a head... kickysnana Jan 2013 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author agent46 Jan 2013 #31
It's bad when our male soldiers get captured. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #34
I don't know why women are somehow "specialer" than men, that they need TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #35
Look at what they do to their own women. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #44
Chivalry is just another cage. eShirl Jan 2013 #48
You don't get to decide for us what sort of risks we should take, fortunately. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #64
No, I don't. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #83
Violence, pain, and suffering are awful no matter which gender is involved. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #85
If you say so. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #90
Men haven't been spared any type of trauma, including rape. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #100
Agreed. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #104
How about we allow women to decide what risks they want to take…just like NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #69
That is what is going to happen. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #87
And we can also allow an infantryman not to risk being left with a partner that can't ruck a SQUEE Jan 2013 #144
Really? You REALLY don't know? Have you been to, say, India lately? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #53
Why are you comparing a victimhood situation to a job willingly undertaken? TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #63
GOOD question. My answer: "It's the economy,......" WinkyDink Jan 2013 #74
Women are already in the harms way of getting captured. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #36
Eminent danger pay and combat pay are not dependent on MOS.. SQUEE Jan 2013 #96
We have. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #114
you don't have to do that to me nor many other men here SQUEE Jan 2013 #119
Maybe this will get the warmongers to think twice before committing the US to more wars. eShirl Jan 2013 #47
I think we both know that they don't care. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #49
Bwahahahaha! No. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #75
Not sure why killing people is a "woohoo" moment. Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #37
We get to be equal, for the bad and the good. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #38
Yeah! Now women vets will commit suicide in equal numbers to the men! Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #42
Then we can all sing about motherless children! Yay! WinkyDink Jan 2013 #54
As I stated, It is a dark door we must walk through. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #91
Wow, that is one demented "want". Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #72
...that's... sibelian Jan 2013 #82
Back during the cold war I slept soundly knowing our boys were patroling the night sky, Glassunion Jan 2013 #39
I just love the video ReRe Jan 2013 #40
And now young women should be required to register for the draft. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #41
If men have to, then women (should) have to. eShirl Jan 2013 #50
It's about damn time! Jamastiene Jan 2013 #45
Really not a good example TM99 Jan 2013 #55
Did they try it on a women who had been pregnant before? Confusious Jan 2013 #138
Sure, why not. TM99 Jan 2013 #51
Don't hold your breath regjoe Jan 2013 #58
I am aware of the current differences TM99 Jan 2013 #59
Yep, we shall see regjoe Jan 2013 #62
Of course they are in vain TM99 Jan 2013 #70
i know women firefighters CreekDog Jan 2013 #110
Very intelligent reply TM99 Jan 2013 #135
Isn't the APFT gender neutral now? n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #101
Yes obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #107
No TM99 Jan 2013 #137
Not in the cheering section, here. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #52
Go here Aviation Pro Jan 2013 #65
I hope you'll forgive me for not cheering this one on... Earth_First Jan 2013 #67
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #71
lolwat poster was just banned CreekDog Jan 2013 #109
And how would this impact a draft? B2G Jan 2013 #77
Equality is equality. Crepuscular Jan 2013 #81
That is officially. We have been in wars as long as there have been wars. They often called us the jwirr Jan 2013 #84
Why would women, or anyone, want to go into combat and kill people? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #86
Yeah, I am as baffled as you are. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #128
Grats! You can die for the 1%! nt RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #88
...and kill innocent brown people in the process. nt Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #146
There will never be a draft again marlakay Jan 2013 #89
Why is it any better for men to be forced to go die? white_wolf Jan 2013 #93
thanks for posting sexism, right there CreekDog Jan 2013 #108
What a stupid, ignorant post. kentuck Jan 2013 #95
CNN has a poll up on this pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #97
Damn, when I saw that women go in the voting booth and pull the black curtain... Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #99
That was a nod to Alice Paul Raine1967 Jan 2013 #103
Do you have a web address for that video? Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #102
It is a YouTube video. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #121
Me personally, no HockeyMom Jan 2013 #105
It's just like the abortion controversy. I want Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #113
Absolutely HockeyMom Jan 2013 #124
...Women have been in the fight for a long time...It's just now the armed forces will DFab420 Jan 2013 #106
As long as they can pass the physical requirements to do the job safely madville Jan 2013 #123
Whatever turns you on HockeyMom Jan 2013 #126
Women have been in combat auntsue Jan 2013 #129
Besides the Purple Heart, Tammy Duckworth was awarded the Air Medal and the ARCOM in the hospital pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #130
Out of the closet, my ass! TM99 Jan 2013 #139
I stand corrected auntsue Jan 2013 #152
No Problem TM99 Jan 2013 #153
Hopefully none are ever captured. Read about the sexual degradation LittleBlue Jan 2013 #133
Equality or nothing. from a guy! RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 #136
Definately an equal rights win for the US. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #145
yout think women would be more likely to support an illegal war if the President were a woman? Whisp Jan 2013 #147
An illegal war is illegal. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #151
Really? OldEurope Jan 2013 #148
It is another door we women must walk through for equality. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #155
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