Why is it that a white person's black friends (Reply #172)

In the discussion thread: Dr. Cornel West Takes Issue With President Barack Obama Taking Oath With Martin Luther King Jr.'s Bi [View all]

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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:13 AM

treestar (71,389 posts)

172. Why is it that a white person's black friends

tend to be so conservative or anti-Obama? Very confusing.

I have many black friends too and they support the President. I have even more white friends who do. Liberals. Realistic people, since reality has a liberal bias.

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Dr. Cornel West Takes Issue With President Barack Obama Taking Oath With Martin Luther King Jr.'s Bi [View all]	Beringia	Jan 2013	OP
sigh	blogslut	Jan 2013	#1
Really.	elleng	Jan 2013	#7
+1 "Too bad, 'cause I used to admire him."	Number23	Jan 2013	#75
Thanks, and glad to hear my thoughts are shared.	elleng	Jan 2013	#79
My crush was actually based on his words, not looks. He's a weird looking chap	Number23	Jan 2013	#85
Yes, it is true	elleng	Jan 2013	#86
I'm sad to hear you feel that way	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#109
The same people that supported MLK before it was cool (black folks)	Number23	Jan 2013	#112
I have many black friends. They are actual liberals	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#115
Don't you dare tell me what I as a black person should or should not be disappointed of	Number23	Jan 2013	#116
I only dare to suggest what you as a LIBERAL should be disappointed in	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#120
I have black friends, too	union_maid	Jan 2013	#136
I'm happy that Obama became President	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#173
Always love your straight talk, N°23! Tell it sistah!	Surya Gayatri	Jan 2013	#230
Hahahaha!!!! Oh, you have black friends, doooo yoôuuuuuu???	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#141
I live in a very liberal town.	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#171
Oh, rly? You think the rest of us live in segregated shitholes, do you?	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#178
Gladly	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#184
Why is it that a white person's black friends	treestar	Jan 2013	#172
You don't understand. My friends (black and white) tend to agree with West	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#177
Not mine. All mine are Pro with a capital P.	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#179
WOW, been black most of my life and I wasn't aware that I missed out on "the colored folks oath" of	Ecumenist	Jan 2013	#214
Also this talk of "culmination" disturbs me	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#117
You be as "saddened" and "disturbed" as you want	Number23	Jan 2013	#118
best response EVER	dlwickham	Jan 2013	#128
Ouch! Such witticisms	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#132
I am right there with you. The man actually tried to tell me Obama had taken the oath on the wrong	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#147
When somebody who isn't black tries to tell me what I should like/hate/be disappointed by	Number23	Jan 2013	#154
I told you what I think a LIBERAL, not as a black person (which was central to my point)	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#186
You may not know this but black people are LIBERALS TOO. Real ones. nt	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#192
I don't need you to tell me what or how to think as anything. Period.	Number23	Jan 2013	#197
+1,000 nt	MADem	Jan 2013	#203
Rocktivity Takes Issue With Cornell West Trolling For A Network Job.	rocktivity	Jan 2013	#2
Cornel West is an idiot. President Obama does not invite him to the WH for any events and I don't	monmouth3	Jan 2013	#3
whatthefuckever.	cali	Jan 2013	#4
I usually agree with the good Professor - but I think he's incorrect here	Taverner	Jan 2013	#5
"...and I'm not combing my hair until he apologizes." nt	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2013	#6
King's family asked Pres.Obama to sign MLK's bible.	JaneyVee	Jan 2013	#8
As The Kids Say - Haters Gonna Hate	Indykatie	Jan 2013	#56
Just saw your post " I totally agree"	goclark	Jan 2013	#153
lol, i wonder if west knows this	arely staircase	Jan 2013	#69
Thanks for raising that point. I wasn't sure if everyone here knew that	Number23	Jan 2013	#78
Thanks so much for posting this pix. I'd love for someone to post this as its own thread.	KittyWampus	Jan 2013	#92
I hate to say this since I have always liked Dr. West, but he's stuck in the past	Politicub	Jan 2013	#105
I agree. And I also think that his ego and not being given the deference that he believes	Number23	Jan 2013	#106
Oh, smackdown	union_maid	Jan 2013	#137
It was MLK day. It was an honor for both men. Our President is not MLK but he is a good president.	The Wielding Truth	Jan 2013	#88
Dr. West occasionally goes off the deep end.	bemildred	Jan 2013	#9
Someone posted that on my Facebook	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#10
Did not the King family ask the President to use and sign MLK's Bible? nt	kelliekat44	Jan 2013	#11
Not sure about that, but...	GoCubsGo	Jan 2013	#61
King's family is much more conservative than the man himself.	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#111
oh, so now you're channeling dr. martin luther king	hopemountain	Jan 2013	#224
West is a self-promoting jerk.	bluestateguy	Jan 2013	#12
Cornel West. The Donald Trump of the intellectual libertarian "elite"...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2013	#13
If by that you mean..	Cha	Jan 2013	#65
Including the "BAD HAIR" ! LOL! (Albeit of different color and texture...)	Surya Gayatri	Jan 2013	#232
I'm beginning to wonder if Dr. West is suffering some early onset dementia. Really.	riderinthestorm	Jan 2013	#14
Jealous hate renders people stupid.	Cha	Jan 2013	#66
Tavis must have some Social Adjustment	goclark	Jan 2013	#159
Brother West should get his head out of his ass on this one.	Zen Democrat	Jan 2013	#15
West (and Smiley) jumped the shark a few years ago	ecstatic	Jan 2013	#16
A bible is just a book made of paper, bound in leather or some durable substance.	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2013	#17
so which is it?	G_j	Jan 2013	#18
How is it that Cornel West doesn't get that BECAUSE of MLK's legacy, Pres. Barack Obama is possible.	JaneyVee	Jan 2013	#19
I don't know why anyone cares about anything he says.	Renew Deal	Jan 2013	#20
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2013	#21
Agreed	Mr Dixon	Jan 2013	#29
I'm beginning to take issue with Dr. West...	CherokeeDem	Jan 2013	#22
this thread shows the true ending	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#23
Haters are going to hate.	ProSense	Jan 2013	#34
and sell outs are gonna sell out	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#37
Are haters are going to scream sell outs?	ProSense	Jan 2013	#39
who is a hater?	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#43
No,	ProSense	Jan 2013	#44
yeah and Pierce looks so cute	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#46
"in his cheerleader uniform"	ProSense	Jan 2013	#47
no, I just love it when well paid pundits	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#183
Wait	ProSense	Jan 2013	#187
offended?	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#223
Excellent summary of this thread,	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#233
And there it is. Hahaha.	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#129
You realize you are defending someone miffed about not getting White House invites, right? Thats all	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#163
so you think that	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#182
I think the motivations of everything he says where Prez Obama are concerned are suspect. nt	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#185
I think Dr. West	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#24
well listening to this video	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#40
Not me...	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#42
That is a fair assessment	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#122
People are strange creatures and Democrats are amongst the strangest.	Sekhmets Daughter	Jan 2013	#234
It bothers me that he used a Bible..	Liberal Veteran	Jan 2013	#25
Apparently the King family approved of it and even asked for him to write an inscription.	woodsprite	Jan 2013	#26
The family of Dr. King are the people with the last word. They not only made the bible	mfcorey1	Jan 2013	#27
I'm glad he didn't get to ooze his hatred and contempt in the face of King's sister, shown here.	freshwest	Jan 2013	#131
Yup. When I think of the last guardian of Dr. King's legacy, I automatically think...	Tarheel_Dem	Jan 2013	#28
Does West have any remaining credibility when it comes to his comments about the President? nt.	OldDem2012	Jan 2013	#30
Cornell West is a pompous ass, is what I think.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2013	#31
Obama didn't need Cornel's permission	malaise	Jan 2013	#32
did you even listen to the video?	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#41
Cornel is so bored	BeyondGeography	Jan 2013	#33
West gives true meaning to the word "haters"	ProSense	Jan 2013	#35
I thought West's comments on Newtown were heinously dispicable,	Cha	Jan 2013	#73
I'm glad I missed that garbage, whatever it was. The ever pious full of contempt for everyone else.	freshwest	Jan 2013	#123
I wonder what Martin Luther King would have to say about Cornel West?	Lone_Star_Dem	Jan 2013	#36
He would say, "Some men, my brothers and sisters,	MineralMan	Jan 2013	#38
I'll reserve judgment	RudynJack	Jan 2013	#45
Translation: Pay Attention To Me! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!	Jeff In Milwaukee	Jan 2013	#48
I'm ok with Obama using King's bible (powerful symbolism), but I agree with West	deutsey	Jan 2013	#49
Why America May Go To Hell	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#135
There's no text of the sermon that I've seen but it's mentioned here	deutsey	Jan 2013	#231
...and nary a fuck was given by anyone.	Ikonoklast	Jan 2013	#50
+1	Rowdyboy	Jan 2013	#51
+1	uponit7771	Jan 2013	#54
West and Nader should run together on a presidential ticket	still_one	Jan 2013	#52
Is West still unhappy about his lack of special Inauguration tickets?	msanthrope	Jan 2013	#53
I wish to associate myself with the comments of Mrs. Harris-Perry on this topic.	ellisonz	Jan 2013	#168
Excuse me, but when is this man going to get another haircut again?	Jamaal510	Jan 2013	#55
In ten days it will be Groundhog Day	MurrayDelph	Jan 2013	#57
His family didn't seem to mind. They got Obama to sign his name...	Comrade_McKenzie	Jan 2013	#58
West speaks the truth and shortly thereafter his character assassins begin	just1voice	Jan 2013	#59
Um,	ProSense	Jan 2013	#62
beautiful, proSense	hopemountain	Jan 2013	#226
Why don't we see anyone taking apart West's argument???	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#70
Argument? He's pissed that Obama used King's Bible	ProSense	Jan 2013	#71
He's pissed about Signature Strikes	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#155
No, there's not that many posts on the "hair"... there are many more	Cha	Jan 2013	#77
Yet where are the posts refuting his argument? n/t	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#157
He has no argrument.. just petty foolishness. Damn fool.	Cha	Jan 2013	#162
Understood...You can't refute his argument so you call him " A Damn Fool."	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#167
West is Damn Fool. Too bad really.	Cha	Jan 2013	#176
You can't undercut his argument. n/t	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#188
West undercuts his own argument. Shame that.	Cha	Jan 2013	#195
West is a jealous jackass who negates his message about	Cha	Jan 2013	#74
You're just embarrassing yourself now.	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#207
It's Cornel West who's embarrassed himself.	Cha	Jan 2013	#209
I ask one one question of you:	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#211
how dare we ever say anything critical of Obama	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2013	#113
Fuck off, West.	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#60
+ 1,and then some.	virgogal	Jan 2013	#63
West continues his descent to irrelevancy. He is a bitter fool.	Pisces	Jan 2013	#64
West and his side-kick, Smiley, never miss an opportunity to...	kjackson227	Jan 2013	#67
well, bless his heart	arely staircase	Jan 2013	#68
Cornell West is a buffoon. n/t	vaberella	Jan 2013	#72
What the f*ck happened to this guy	Mdterp01	Jan 2013	#76
Sorry to say, but Dr. West makes great points.	Fantastic Anarchist	Jan 2013	#80
Pic of Christine King Faris as PBO is sworn in on her brother's Bible..	Cha	Jan 2013	#81
I just posted that same pic upthread!	Number23	Jan 2013	#83
Cool, 23! I'm	Cha	Jan 2013	#84
West is a Naderite. Naderites have no place on democratic boards, as Nader threw 2000 to repubs.	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#82
If Nader hadn't elected Bush in 2000, our discussions today would be vastly different.	bluestate10	Jan 2013	#93
After thinking about it	Beringia	Jan 2013	#87
MLK's family knows a lot better about what MLK would think than you do. He had a dream.	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#119
MLK's family should not be put on any sort of pedestal either	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#125
First, the Constitution does not say the oath has to be on the 20th. Only that the	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#138
Actually Obama being sworn in could be seen as a symbol of that fight.	vaberella	Jan 2013	#201
What do you mean the dream is closer	Beringia	Jan 2013	#166
Do you have ANY clue at all about MLK other than what that fucked piece said? LOL.	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#170
he fights for poor African Americans	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2013	#89
Cornell West speaks for no one but his prima donna ass.	bluestate10	Jan 2013	#96
that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. I disagree.	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2013	#97
Tell me one thing that Cornell West has done to	bluestate10	Jan 2013	#100
I have already told you, you are entitled to your opinion	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2013	#104
Curt dismissals don't count as responses. Cornell West is a loudmouth that has done	bluestate10	Jan 2013	#108
buh-bye	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2013	#110
Blah blah blah. As if President Obama doesn't have enough on his plate,	catbyte	Jan 2013	#90
Fuck Cornel West and fuck his incessant speechifying and nonsensical blathering.	phleshdef	Jan 2013	#91
Do folks here routinely disagree with Cornell West?	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#130
I don't always disagree with Cornell West. But even when I agree with him, I find him obnoxious.	phleshdef	Jan 2013	#134
See	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#164
Please, lets not pretend this MLK Bible nonsense is legitimate criticism.	phleshdef	Jan 2013	#193
Dr. Cornel West should learn to STFU once in a while.	undeterred	Jan 2013	#94
West is becoming a clown.	johnp3907	Jan 2013	#95
Damn...what the hell happened to West?	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2013	#98
Cornel West was 14 when King was assassinated	onenote	Jan 2013	#99
West could probably get some GOPers' to impeachment Obama for that.	Hoyt	Jan 2013	#101
I take issue...	ShadesOfBlue	Jan 2013	#102
King's sister too. I posted a pic of her upthread	Number23	Jan 2013	#107
Are King's family royalty?	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#114
the family of Dr. King suffered loss of a beloved member of their family	hopemountain	Jan 2013	#227
West's comment makes Obama's inaugural speech even more prescient	Politicub	Jan 2013	#103
Thanks for the well-reasoned response.	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#127
Too bad West's statement wasn't "well-reasoned"	ProSense	Jan 2013	#146
+1	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2013	#133
Dr West takes issue with not hearing his own voice often enough	REP	Jan 2013	#121
Indeed. eom	Purveyor	Jan 2013	#126
He's looney tunes.	Owl	Jan 2013	#124
Everyone should remember this is all about not getting a White House invite. It's B.S. nt	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#139
I wouldn't invite him either. No way. nt	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#143
Sheesh too bad it wasn't his decision to make...	Historic NY	Jan 2013	#140
It's hilarious.	ProSense	Jan 2013	#148
Apparently Cornel doesn't have a problem 'playing' with King himself	bigtree	Jan 2013	#142
Neither do some in this thread. At the apparent request of their "black friends"	Number23	Jan 2013	#150
Seriously,	ProSense	Jan 2013	#151
I really can't stand this guy. The only way he ever makes a point....	Walk away	Jan 2013	#144
I guess you didn't actually watch the video	just1voice	Jan 2013	#152
And according to him President Obama invented all of it.	Walk away	Jan 2013	#160
"He's talking..."	ProSense	Jan 2013	#161
I am African American and I once admired West	goclark	Jan 2013	#145
What's with the ad-hom attacks?	just1voice	Jan 2013	#149
West	ProSense	Jan 2013	#156
You don't know me	goclark	Jan 2013	#175
Thanks goclark.. you were keeping real. Obviously	Cha	Jan 2013	#180
Actually Cornel West has used the fact that Obama as biracial as a weakness.	vaberella	Jan 2013	#198
I think West has some good points...	Hippo_Tron	Jan 2013	#158
Posted to cuz I really don't want to read stuff like this before bed. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2013	#165
If it's true, someone gave him that Bible	treestar	Jan 2013	#169
Dr Martin Luther King at the White House	ProSense	Jan 2013	#174
Cornell is a purist. No surprise.	Pretzel_Warrior	Jan 2013	#181
That argument didn't work out to well for Hillary in the Democratic primary:	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#190
Here's your answer:	ProSense	Jan 2013	#199
You mean he PUSHED LBJ et. al. to do the RIGHT THING???	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#205
Do you think whining about an oath taken on King's bible rises to the level of King's actions?	ProSense	Jan 2013	#210
I'm not trying to equate West and MLK, I'm asking for a specific counter-argument...	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#217
What does any of that have to do with using King's Bible?	ProSense	Jan 2013	#218
West's is arguing that MLK wouldn't support BO on Multiple Important Policy Positions...	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#222
Right! Dr King wouldn't be engaged in petty jealousy..	Cha	Jan 2013	#206
You still haven't espoused on Dr. King's likely opinion of BO's handling of:	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#208
You have no idea how those discussions would go, but	ProSense	Jan 2013	#212
ProSense, I'm asking what YOU think Dr. King's stance would be on:	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#215
You're ignoring my response to push your red herring	ProSense	Jan 2013	#216
You have no response besides name calling...	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#219
"name calling" WTF?	ProSense	Jan 2013	#220
You called West a "hater" "small minded" "ass" "petty RW asshole" and "idiotic" in this thread.	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#221
Cornel West does not speak for Dr King.	Cha	Jan 2013	#213
He is batshit and whiny since he wasn't invited to the Inauguration. LOL. nt	DevonRex	Jan 2013	#194
Now this is the kind of guy who should be advising Obama	quinnox	Jan 2013	#189
He's upset about Obama using King's Bible.	ProSense	Jan 2013	#196
If King's family was okay with it that's good enough for me n/t	TexasBushwhacker	Jan 2013	#191
i believe Dr. King would be honored that President Obama.......	spanone	Jan 2013	#200
Translation: "Me! Me! Look at me!"	struggle4progress	Jan 2013	#202
.	Deep13	Jan 2013	#204
Great Analysis of Dr. West's Statement on BO's Use of King's Bible	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#225
A reaction, not an analysis...	Deep13	Jan 2013	#235
What points made in the video do you disagree with?	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#236
dr. west has some good points	hopemountain	Jan 2013	#228
I think the family of MLK offered use of the family bible, they also asked Obama to sign their bible	Sunlei	Jan 2013	#229

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