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bluestate10

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93. If Nader hadn't elected Bush in 2000, our discussions today would be vastly different.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jan 2013

Without Bush, more than 10,000 americans would have had a chance to live full lifetimes. Without Bush, tens of thousands of americans would have healthy bodies and limbs. Without Bush, our nation wouldn't have come within mere hours of complete ruin in the late summer of 2008. Fuck Nader and fuck every single one of the 97,000 people that voted for him in Florida. The nation would have been better off without them.

sigh blogslut Jan 2013 #1
Really. elleng Jan 2013 #7
+1 "Too bad, 'cause I used to admire him." Number23 Jan 2013 #75
Thanks, and glad to hear my thoughts are shared. elleng Jan 2013 #79
My crush was actually based on his words, not looks. He's a weird looking chap Number23 Jan 2013 #85
Yes, it is true elleng Jan 2013 #86
I'm sad to hear you feel that way Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #109
The same people that supported MLK before it was cool (black folks) Number23 Jan 2013 #112
I have many black friends. They are actual liberals Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #115
Don't you dare tell me what I as a black person should or should not be disappointed of Number23 Jan 2013 #116
I only dare to suggest what you as a LIBERAL should be disappointed in Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #120
I have black friends, too union_maid Jan 2013 #136
I'm happy that Obama became President Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #173
Always love your straight talk, N°23! Tell it sistah! Surya Gayatri Jan 2013 #230
Hahahaha!!!! Oh, you have black friends, doooo yoôuuuuuu??? DevonRex Jan 2013 #141
I live in a very liberal town. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #171
Oh, rly? You think the rest of us live in segregated shitholes, do you? DevonRex Jan 2013 #178
Gladly Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #184
Why is it that a white person's black friends treestar Jan 2013 #172
You don't understand. My friends (black and white) tend to agree with West Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #177
Not mine. All mine are Pro with a capital P. DevonRex Jan 2013 #179
WOW, been black most of my life and I wasn't aware that I missed out on "the colored folks oath" of Ecumenist Jan 2013 #214
Also this talk of "culmination" disturbs me Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #117
You be as "saddened" and "disturbed" as you want Number23 Jan 2013 #118
best response EVER dlwickham Jan 2013 #128
Ouch! Such witticisms Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #132
I am right there with you. The man actually tried to tell me Obama had taken the oath on the wrong DevonRex Jan 2013 #147
When somebody who isn't black tries to tell me what I should like/hate/be disappointed by Number23 Jan 2013 #154
I told you what I think a LIBERAL, not as a black person (which was central to my point) Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #186
You may not know this but black people are LIBERALS TOO. Real ones. nt DevonRex Jan 2013 #192
I don't need you to tell me what or how to think as anything. Period. Number23 Jan 2013 #197
+1,000 nt MADem Jan 2013 #203
Rocktivity Takes Issue With Cornell West Trolling For A Network Job. rocktivity Jan 2013 #2
Cornel West is an idiot. President Obama does not invite him to the WH for any events and I don't monmouth3 Jan 2013 #3
whatthefuckever. cali Jan 2013 #4
I usually agree with the good Professor - but I think he's incorrect here Taverner Jan 2013 #5
"...and I'm not combing my hair until he apologizes." nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2013 #6
King's family asked Pres.Obama to sign MLK's bible. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #8
As The Kids Say - Haters Gonna Hate Indykatie Jan 2013 #56
Just saw your post " I totally agree" goclark Jan 2013 #153
lol, i wonder if west knows this arely staircase Jan 2013 #69
Thanks for raising that point. I wasn't sure if everyone here knew that Number23 Jan 2013 #78
Thanks so much for posting this pix. I'd love for someone to post this as its own thread. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #92
I hate to say this since I have always liked Dr. West, but he's stuck in the past Politicub Jan 2013 #105
I agree. And I also think that his ego and not being given the deference that he believes Number23 Jan 2013 #106
Oh, smackdown union_maid Jan 2013 #137
It was MLK day. It was an honor for both men. Our President is not MLK but he is a good president. The Wielding Truth Jan 2013 #88
Dr. West occasionally goes off the deep end. bemildred Jan 2013 #9
Someone posted that on my Facebook BainsBane Jan 2013 #10
Did not the King family ask the President to use and sign MLK's Bible? nt kelliekat44 Jan 2013 #11
Not sure about that, but... GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #61
King's family is much more conservative than the man himself. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #111
oh, so now you're channeling dr. martin luther king hopemountain Jan 2013 #224
West is a self-promoting jerk. bluestateguy Jan 2013 #12
Cornel West. The Donald Trump of the intellectual libertarian "elite"...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #13
If by that you mean.. Cha Jan 2013 #65
Including the "BAD HAIR" ! LOL! (Albeit of different color and texture...) Surya Gayatri Jan 2013 #232
I'm beginning to wonder if Dr. West is suffering some early onset dementia. Really. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #14
Jealous hate renders people stupid. Cha Jan 2013 #66
Tavis must have some Social Adjustment goclark Jan 2013 #159
Brother West should get his head out of his ass on this one. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #15
West (and Smiley) jumped the shark a few years ago ecstatic Jan 2013 #16
A bible is just a book made of paper, bound in leather or some durable substance. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #17
so which is it? G_j Jan 2013 #18
How is it that Cornel West doesn't get that BECAUSE of MLK's legacy, Pres. Barack Obama is possible. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #19
I don't know why anyone cares about anything he says. Renew Deal Jan 2013 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #21
Agreed Mr Dixon Jan 2013 #29
I'm beginning to take issue with Dr. West... CherokeeDem Jan 2013 #22
this thread shows the true ending hfojvt Jan 2013 #23
Haters are going to hate. ProSense Jan 2013 #34
and sell outs are gonna sell out hfojvt Jan 2013 #37
Are haters are going to scream sell outs? ProSense Jan 2013 #39
who is a hater? hfojvt Jan 2013 #43
No, ProSense Jan 2013 #44
yeah and Pierce looks so cute hfojvt Jan 2013 #46
"in his cheerleader uniform" ProSense Jan 2013 #47
no, I just love it when well paid pundits hfojvt Jan 2013 #183
Wait ProSense Jan 2013 #187
offended? hfojvt Jan 2013 #223
Excellent summary of this thread, woo me with science Jan 2013 #233
And there it is. Hahaha. DevonRex Jan 2013 #129
You realize you are defending someone miffed about not getting White House invites, right? Thats all stevenleser Jan 2013 #163
so you think that hfojvt Jan 2013 #182
I think the motivations of everything he says where Prez Obama are concerned are suspect. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #185
I think Dr. West Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #24
well listening to this video hfojvt Jan 2013 #40
Not me... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #42
That is a fair assessment Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #122
People are strange creatures and Democrats are amongst the strangest. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #234
It bothers me that he used a Bible.. Liberal Veteran Jan 2013 #25
Apparently the King family approved of it and even asked for him to write an inscription. woodsprite Jan 2013 #26
The family of Dr. King are the people with the last word. They not only made the bible mfcorey1 Jan 2013 #27
I'm glad he didn't get to ooze his hatred and contempt in the face of King's sister, shown here. freshwest Jan 2013 #131
Yup. When I think of the last guardian of Dr. King's legacy, I automatically think... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #28
Does West have any remaining credibility when it comes to his comments about the President? nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #30
Cornell West is a pompous ass, is what I think. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #31
Obama didn't need Cornel's permission malaise Jan 2013 #32
did you even listen to the video? hfojvt Jan 2013 #41
Cornel is so bored BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #33
West gives true meaning to the word "haters" ProSense Jan 2013 #35
I thought West's comments on Newtown were heinously dispicable, Cha Jan 2013 #73
I'm glad I missed that garbage, whatever it was. The ever pious full of contempt for everyone else. freshwest Jan 2013 #123
I wonder what Martin Luther King would have to say about Cornel West? Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #36
He would say, "Some men, my brothers and sisters, MineralMan Jan 2013 #38
I'll reserve judgment RudynJack Jan 2013 #45
Translation: Pay Attention To Me! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!! Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #48
I'm ok with Obama using King's bible (powerful symbolism), but I agree with West deutsey Jan 2013 #49
Why America May Go To Hell Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #135
There's no text of the sermon that I've seen but it's mentioned here deutsey Jan 2013 #231
...and nary a fuck was given by anyone. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #50
+1 Rowdyboy Jan 2013 #51
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #54
West and Nader should run together on a presidential ticket still_one Jan 2013 #52
Is West still unhappy about his lack of special Inauguration tickets? msanthrope Jan 2013 #53
I wish to associate myself with the comments of Mrs. Harris-Perry on this topic. ellisonz Jan 2013 #168
Excuse me, but when is this man going to get another haircut again? Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #55
In ten days it will be Groundhog Day MurrayDelph Jan 2013 #57
His family didn't seem to mind. They got Obama to sign his name... Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #58
West speaks the truth and shortly thereafter his character assassins begin just1voice Jan 2013 #59
Um, ProSense Jan 2013 #62
beautiful, proSense hopemountain Jan 2013 #226
Why don't we see anyone taking apart West's argument??? NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #70
Argument? He's pissed that Obama used King's Bible ProSense Jan 2013 #71
He's pissed about Signature Strikes NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #155
No, there's not that many posts on the "hair"... there are many more Cha Jan 2013 #77
Yet where are the posts refuting his argument? n/t NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #157
He has no argrument.. just petty foolishness. Damn fool. Cha Jan 2013 #162
Understood...You can't refute his argument so you call him " A Damn Fool." NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #167
West is Damn Fool. Too bad really. Cha Jan 2013 #176
You can't undercut his argument. n/t NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #188
West undercuts his own argument. Shame that. Cha Jan 2013 #195
West is a jealous jackass who negates his message about Cha Jan 2013 #74
You're just embarrassing yourself now. NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #207
It's Cornel West who's embarrassed himself. Cha Jan 2013 #209
I ask one one question of you: NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #211
how dare we ever say anything critical of Obama liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #113
Fuck off, West. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #60
+ 1,and then some. virgogal Jan 2013 #63
West continues his descent to irrelevancy. He is a bitter fool. Pisces Jan 2013 #64
West and his side-kick, Smiley, never miss an opportunity to... kjackson227 Jan 2013 #67
well, bless his heart arely staircase Jan 2013 #68
Cornell West is a buffoon. n/t vaberella Jan 2013 #72
What the f*ck happened to this guy Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #76
Sorry to say, but Dr. West makes great points. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #80
Pic of Christine King Faris as PBO is sworn in on her brother's Bible.. Cha Jan 2013 #81
I just posted that same pic upthread! Number23 Jan 2013 #83
Cool, 23! I'm Cha Jan 2013 #84
West is a Naderite. Naderites have no place on democratic boards, as Nader threw 2000 to repubs. graham4anything Jan 2013 #82
If Nader hadn't elected Bush in 2000, our discussions today would be vastly different. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #93
After thinking about it Beringia Jan 2013 #87
MLK's family knows a lot better about what MLK would think than you do. He had a dream. DevonRex Jan 2013 #119
MLK's family should not be put on any sort of pedestal either Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #125
First, the Constitution does not say the oath has to be on the 20th. Only that the DevonRex Jan 2013 #138
Actually Obama being sworn in could be seen as a symbol of that fight. vaberella Jan 2013 #201
What do you mean the dream is closer Beringia Jan 2013 #166
Do you have ANY clue at all about MLK other than what that fucked piece said? LOL. DevonRex Jan 2013 #170
he fights for poor African Americans liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #89
Cornell West speaks for no one but his prima donna ass. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #96
that's your opinion. You're entitled to it. I disagree. liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #97
Tell me one thing that Cornell West has done to bluestate10 Jan 2013 #100
I have already told you, you are entitled to your opinion liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #104
Curt dismissals don't count as responses. Cornell West is a loudmouth that has done bluestate10 Jan 2013 #108
buh-bye liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #110
Blah blah blah. As if President Obama doesn't have enough on his plate, catbyte Jan 2013 #90
Fuck Cornel West and fuck his incessant speechifying and nonsensical blathering. phleshdef Jan 2013 #91
Do folks here routinely disagree with Cornell West? Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #130
I don't always disagree with Cornell West. But even when I agree with him, I find him obnoxious. phleshdef Jan 2013 #134
See Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #164
Please, lets not pretend this MLK Bible nonsense is legitimate criticism. phleshdef Jan 2013 #193
Dr. Cornel West should learn to STFU once in a while. undeterred Jan 2013 #94
West is becoming a clown. johnp3907 Jan 2013 #95
Damn...what the hell happened to West? Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #98
Cornel West was 14 when King was assassinated onenote Jan 2013 #99
West could probably get some GOPers' to impeachment Obama for that. Hoyt Jan 2013 #101
I take issue... ShadesOfBlue Jan 2013 #102
King's sister too. I posted a pic of her upthread Number23 Jan 2013 #107
Are King's family royalty? Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #114
the family of Dr. King suffered loss of a beloved member of their family hopemountain Jan 2013 #227
West's comment makes Obama's inaugural speech even more prescient Politicub Jan 2013 #103
Thanks for the well-reasoned response. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #127
Too bad West's statement wasn't "well-reasoned" ProSense Jan 2013 #146
+1 liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #133
Dr West takes issue with not hearing his own voice often enough REP Jan 2013 #121
Indeed. eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #126
He's looney tunes. Owl Jan 2013 #124
Everyone should remember this is all about not getting a White House invite. It's B.S. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #139
I wouldn't invite him either. No way. nt DevonRex Jan 2013 #143
Sheesh too bad it wasn't his decision to make... Historic NY Jan 2013 #140
It's hilarious. ProSense Jan 2013 #148
Apparently Cornel doesn't have a problem 'playing' with King himself bigtree Jan 2013 #142
Neither do some in this thread. At the apparent request of their "black friends" Number23 Jan 2013 #150
Seriously, ProSense Jan 2013 #151
I really can't stand this guy. The only way he ever makes a point.... Walk away Jan 2013 #144
I guess you didn't actually watch the video just1voice Jan 2013 #152
And according to him President Obama invented all of it. Walk away Jan 2013 #160
"He's talking..." ProSense Jan 2013 #161
I am African American and I once admired West goclark Jan 2013 #145
What's with the ad-hom attacks? just1voice Jan 2013 #149
West ProSense Jan 2013 #156
You don't know me goclark Jan 2013 #175
Thanks goclark.. you were keeping real. Obviously Cha Jan 2013 #180
Actually Cornel West has used the fact that Obama as biracial as a weakness. vaberella Jan 2013 #198
I think West has some good points... Hippo_Tron Jan 2013 #158
Posted to cuz I really don't want to read stuff like this before bed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #165
If it's true, someone gave him that Bible treestar Jan 2013 #169
Dr Martin Luther King at the White House ProSense Jan 2013 #174
Cornell is a purist. No surprise. Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #181
That argument didn't work out to well for Hillary in the Democratic primary: NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #190
Here's your answer: ProSense Jan 2013 #199
You mean he PUSHED LBJ et. al. to do the RIGHT THING??? NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #205
Do you think whining about an oath taken on King's bible rises to the level of King's actions? ProSense Jan 2013 #210
I'm not trying to equate West and MLK, I'm asking for a specific counter-argument... NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #217
What does any of that have to do with using King's Bible? ProSense Jan 2013 #218
West's is arguing that MLK wouldn't support BO on Multiple Important Policy Positions... NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #222
Right! Dr King wouldn't be engaged in petty jealousy.. Cha Jan 2013 #206
You still haven't espoused on Dr. King's likely opinion of BO's handling of: NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #208
You have no idea how those discussions would go, but ProSense Jan 2013 #212
ProSense, I'm asking what YOU think Dr. King's stance would be on: NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #215
You're ignoring my response to push your red herring ProSense Jan 2013 #216
You have no response besides name calling... NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #219
"name calling" WTF? ProSense Jan 2013 #220
You called West a "hater" "small minded" "ass" "petty RW asshole" and "idiotic" in this thread. NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #221
Cornel West does not speak for Dr King. Cha Jan 2013 #213
He is batshit and whiny since he wasn't invited to the Inauguration. LOL. nt DevonRex Jan 2013 #194
Now this is the kind of guy who should be advising Obama quinnox Jan 2013 #189
He's upset about Obama using King's Bible. ProSense Jan 2013 #196
If King's family was okay with it that's good enough for me n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #191
i believe Dr. King would be honored that President Obama....... spanone Jan 2013 #200
Translation: "Me! Me! Look at me!" struggle4progress Jan 2013 #202
. Deep13 Jan 2013 #204
Great Analysis of Dr. West's Statement on BO's Use of King's Bible NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #225
A reaction, not an analysis... Deep13 Jan 2013 #235
What points made in the video do you disagree with? NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #236
dr. west has some good points hopemountain Jan 2013 #228
I think the family of MLK offered use of the family bible, they also asked Obama to sign their bible Sunlei Jan 2013 #229
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