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Raine

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23. IMO it's the other way around. Repugs win a battle (gerrymander an election) now and then but

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Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:14 AM

Jan 2013

in the end they will lose the entire war and we win.

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Obama/Dems won the battle but Repubs are winning the war.... [View all] msongs Jan 2013 OP

yep, we've been whistling past the graveyard for the past 2 months 0rganism Jan 2013 #1

No...they aren't in danger of taking over on the national level. dkf Jan 2013 #2

i don't think you're seeing the threat yet. Here, i'll explain: 0rganism Jan 2013 #7

They came up way short...it was a shellacking. dkf Jan 2013 #11

state governments decide how to allocate their EVs 0rganism Jan 2013 #14

Oh give me a break. I don't buy that at all. Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #3

gerrymandered districts->tainted EV allocation, get it? 0rganism Jan 2013 #10

Well, seeing how every Republican plan fails railsback Jan 2013 #4

the question is, how much damage can they do along the way? 0rganism Jan 2013 #8

Actually, it worked quite well. Dawgs Jan 2013 #30

The fact that even after jerry rigging districts, they STILL lost seats railsback Jan 2013 #34

Losing seats doesn't mean shit if you still control the House. Dawgs Jan 2013 #38

It was hardly a crushing victory. Mutiny In Heaven Jan 2013 #41

Gerrymandering is a stopgap measure. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #5

good point, gerrymandering is a poor second treestar Jan 2013 #13

if u live in a blue state where repubs control the legislature you better get busy and msongs Jan 2013 #6

Bottom line: WE CAN'T WIN THE PRESIDENCY WITHOUT ELECTORAL VOTES! 0rganism Jan 2013 #9

Can they be stopped by legal means? Amonester Jan 2013 #12

might be some judicial recourse in VA and FL 0rganism Jan 2013 #16

Two states already divide up their electoral votes...the courts have no say in it davidn3600 Jan 2013 #25

If we sit back and adopt that attitude, then absolutely yes..... Rowdyboy Jan 2013 #15

How do you see things playing out? 0rganism Jan 2013 #18

Raising holy hell is a good start....education matters,,,,if these states are allowed to bail on Rowdyboy Jan 2013 #20

We've got a 2014 election coming most repub govenors are vulnerable if we can elect dems we reverse trublu992 Jan 2013 #17

nope - reversal would require legislative action 0rganism Jan 2013 #19

Dems already won the legislature in Maine magical thyme Jan 2013 #35

Maine has a long-standing tradition of dividing its EVs 0rganism Jan 2013 #40

yeah, Mitten's made a last minute attempt to get Northern Maine's single EV magical thyme Jan 2013 #42

Difficult, not impossible Chathamization Jan 2013 #36

I see it as a real threat LeftInTX Jan 2013 #21

All Obama has to do is start a program to get America working again. He does this and the Dems will DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #22

IMO it's the other way around. Repugs win a battle (gerrymander an election) now and then but Raine Jan 2013 #23

kr. and the other thing is state & local policy -- which is noticeably going rightward. that's HiPointDem Jan 2013 #24

Which is actually in line with typical election patterns davidn3600 Jan 2013 #26

i'd disagree. what i am seeing where i live is a longer-term trend, & it's backed by grassroots HiPointDem Jan 2013 #28

I disagree with all of this. Hillary45 already has it clinched.Constant don't remain Constant graham4anything Jan 2013 #27

although I don't think that repubs are winning as the OP claims cali Jan 2013 #29

no, you are wrong graham4anything Jan 2013 #39

Disagree ProSense Jan 2013 #31

I agree. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #33

Can't be. Almost weekly I see a post telling me that the Dems only problem is the South. Dawgs Jan 2013 #32

a (surprisingly) thoughtful freeper doesn't agree with you... magical thyme Jan 2013 #37

they are also preparing for the debt ceiling fight liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #43