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Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
20. You fail to consider the regional differences
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jan 2013

What isn't a big deal in Utah, is likely to be a big deal, if not outright illegal in California or Connecticut.

Open carry of a long gun or handgun, while technically legal in CT, is rarely seen in public. Having said that, I'll say the same thing as everybody else: if the gun is slung from the shoulder and the person appears to be merely going about his/her business, I'll pay more attention to them. If he has the gun in his hands and is wearing a ski mask or doing anything else a reasonable person would consider alarming, I am calling the police and heading for the nearest exit in the opposite direction the person with the gun is going.

Someone who carries a gun is under NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to engage (open fire) on a person shooting other people.

Speaking for myself, if I ended up in a situation like the Clackamas mall shooting, I would have to consider a number of things: can I safely fire at the shooter without endangering someone behind him, am I endangering anybody near me if he fires back, do I have sufficient cover to stop his return fire, is there more then one shooter, even if I can safely fire at the shooter without endangering someone near/behind him, do I have a reasonable chance of hitting him, can I escape without being shot.

Is this an indiscriminate shooting by a mentally deranged person or a targeted crime, say against a Brink's guard with money coming from or going to a store?

Given all the different variables involved, it's hard to definitively say Yes, I would shoot or No, I would not shoot. Again, speaking for myself, using the Clackamas mall shooting as an example, everything would have to be just right before I would consider shooting unless I had no other choice.






shoot first and ask questions later... JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #1
Actually two dumb fuck right winger eliminated. RC Jan 2013 #3
It depends on what you mean by "carrying". ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #2
A concealed carrier pipoman Jan 2013 #4
What about 'stand your ground' laws? flamin lib Jan 2013 #6
Your question suggests you need to do some research. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #10
Stand your ground pipoman Jan 2013 #13
Zimmerman comes to mind. Hoyt Jan 2013 #26
Thank you, ALEC nt truebluegreen Jan 2013 #42
Victims - like Trayvon Martin??? kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #52
Just because you CAN stand your ground doesn't mean you SHOULD do so. Bake Jan 2013 #15
I think in this case... krispos42 Jan 2013 #24
You guys got it all figured out, except you really don't. Hoyt Jan 2013 #27
awww krispos42 Jan 2013 #55
A comment I will never forget in the aftermath of the Gabby Gifford's Tucson shooting... libdem4life Jan 2013 #5
He rightly decided not to draw the weapon Bake Jan 2013 #16
I don't think that at all, especially of people here. Just trying to understand. When I have to libdem4life Jan 2013 #25
I didn't mean to imply you personally. Bake Jan 2013 #29
Indeed...it's like the conversation we never wanted to have...but here it is. libdem4life Jan 2013 #30
Joe Zamudio. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #28
Fact is, as Bake says, most carriers are not gun nuts. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #65
Reminds me of an event in the 70s in Barcelona, Spain. We were tourists, just arrived and checked libdem4life Jan 2013 #67
you EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #7
FFS regjoe Jan 2013 #8
Well, what you forget Zoeisright Jan 2013 #9
Thank you to the gun owners who responded. gateley Jan 2013 #11
Most gun owners are of the same mind, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #21
That's my belief, too, which is why I don't like the "off with their heads" all or nothing gateley Jan 2013 #23
An even better hypothetical question for the Delicate Flowers bongbong Jan 2013 #12
Nice insult. Crap like that is why gun owners don't pay attention to you Bake Jan 2013 #17
Statistics! bongbong Jan 2013 #19
I don't have to study any statistics to know bullshit when I see it. Bake Jan 2013 #22
Leave. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #32
Seems the Delicate Flowers can't stand to have their absurd positions scrutinized. baldguy Jan 2013 #36
If that particular poster was offering any "Scrutiny", it would be met kindly. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #39
Delicate flower being delicate. baldguy Jan 2013 #40
Not at all. Just pointing out how and why you were wrong. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #43
Great example of how broken the jury system is. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #61
You poor thing. baldguy Jan 2013 #63
Your malls must be smaller than normal. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #44
It would depend entirely on the situation. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #14
Excellent answer. Bake Jan 2013 #18
Insane. wtmusic Jan 2013 #57
*shrug* I was just answering the OP's hypothetical. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #59
As usual, a thoughtful response from you. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #68
Thanks...and those are very good suggestions. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #69
You fail to consider the regional differences Lurks Often Jan 2013 #20
pay more attention to him. Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #31
I do not own a weapon, but I can tell you one thing, Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #33
Do not normally carry but do have CCW Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #34
Yep - why I said "with a weapon displayed" Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #37
well deep in red OK Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #38
This is raidert05 Jan 2013 #45
From what you have seen Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #49
You are welcome to try your luck. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #48
Not all the Northeast, evidently. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #50
I don't CC, but I'll answer anyways. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #35
Certain things have to meet up raidert05 Jan 2013 #41
I regularly carry when back in the States - I'll answer... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #46
yes!! raidert05 Jan 2013 #47
where I live people can get a conceal and carry permit just by applying erinlough Jan 2013 #51
I think we all know the decision depends solely on what color the guy kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #53
I'd pull the Fire Alarm rightsideout Jan 2013 #54
Hypothetically... sarisataka Jan 2013 #56
By the time you thought twice about him you'd be dead. nt wtmusic Jan 2013 #58
If the person is coming in sarisataka Jan 2013 #60
You have a much better chance if he doesn't have the gun to start with. wtmusic Jan 2013 #64
That would make the point moot sarisataka Jan 2013 #66
Making it illegal would make it much rarer. wtmusic Jan 2013 #70
Would not Berserker Jan 2013 #62
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