Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
I had to rec this just for Stevie's music. He made my early years just a bit more bearable. Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #1
Please let there be video of Stevie making his purchase! muntrv Jan 2013 #2
It would be a long video - At least 20 minutes for actually buying the gun plus another segment... slackmaster Jan 2013 #15
Not at a gun show. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #18
No, because he lives in California it would be exactly the same at a gun show. slackmaster Jan 2013 #20
How about next door in Nevada?... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #24
A California resident cannot legally buy a gun in any other state... slackmaster Jan 2013 #26
I didn't know that... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #27
I think the laws in California are stricter than they need to be. Some of them seem to be there... slackmaster Jan 2013 #30
I think we all can agree, though... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #32
Yes, in fact I do agree on background checks on all sales. The present system doesn't allow it. slackmaster Jan 2013 #33
Make it a requirement for gun dealers... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #42
It is already the law for gun dealers to run checks, whether it's at a gun show or elsewhere Kennah Jan 2013 #111
What I mean is that... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #131
I'm good with that Kennah Jan 2013 #142
That is probably a better idea... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #143
This message was self-deleted by its author williamc1967txlib Jan 2013 #55
nobody has to even show an ID in AZ, so...a cali resident can go next door or to craigslist farminator3000 Jan 2013 #61
Why would he go all the way to Idaho or Arizona to make an illegal purchase, when he could easily... slackmaster Jan 2013 #62
you should have said 'a cali resident can buy a gun in MANY other states' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #63
Because the point is what can and cannot be done LEGALLY, which is the real topic of this thread. slackmaster Jan 2013 #64
yes, the point is what can be done legally is bad enough to allow 40% of sales illegally farminator3000 Jan 2013 #65
The context of the discussion is what can be done legally in California by a California resident. slackmaster Jan 2013 #66
the point is it would only be slightly harder for him in CA than VA farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67
Buying a firearm in California is more than twice as much hassle as it is in Virginia. slackmaster Jan 2013 #81
twice as much as zero is still zero farminator3000 Jan 2013 #118
You are very persistent in conflating legal transactions with unlawful ones slackmaster Jan 2013 #121
you're good at ignoring everything i post farminator3000 Jan 2013 #122
That last sets my teeth on edge. Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2013 #134
I think anyone who thinks the police must necessarily be better armed than the general public... slackmaster Jan 2013 #136
No, it's just common sense. Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2013 #140
Wonder what the response would be if he shows up at a shooting range? LeftInTX Jan 2013 #3
Hehe. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #25
Someone would probably help him. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #68
Target shooting for blind people is a Paralympic event hack89 Jan 2013 #4
Well dang, now it's not nearly as funny, but I think it's awesome theres a okaawhatever Jan 2013 #5
Blind people play many sports that might surprise you. I knew a blind guy who slaughtered on the Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #56
And believe it or not, some states allow the blind to hunt. n/t RebelOne Jan 2013 #80
if you read stats on how most people use guns in the home, he can't be any worse. yurbud Jan 2013 #6
Reminds me of this Ray Charles joke: yurbud Jan 2013 #7
Ray can shoot! aikoaiko Jan 2013 #10
wow--I can't believe I set that up for you. yurbud Jan 2013 #11
And for those who don't know... the devil Jan 2013 #49
It is hard not to love. yurbud Jan 2013 #54
This scene was the first thing that I though of when I saw the post. EOM BigAnth Jan 2013 #115
Kay and Are! MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Jan 2013 #9
As long as he's not a member of a prohibited class of people, he has every right to buy one slackmaster Jan 2013 #12
Or he could just go to Arizona and buy one of the street from anyone. He can buy a Barrett 50 cal okaawhatever Jan 2013 #19
He could not do that legally slackmaster Jan 2013 #21
california has nothing to do with it, really farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73
There are blind people who target shoot obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #75
yes, but they don't usually walk into wal marts and buy guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #78
But they legally can obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #137
they only can since the year 2000 (bottom link) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #139
Nonsense. slackmaster Jan 2013 #79
you are inventing a subject that has nothing to do with the OP farminator3000 Jan 2013 #86
You're jumping all over the place here. In your last post in this sub-thread you wrote about buying slackmaster Jan 2013 #87
you are the one stuck in CA, which has no bearing whatsover farminator3000 Jan 2013 #94
Not at a Wal Mart, and not legally slackmaster Jan 2013 #95
and again, look at the chart farminator3000 Jan 2013 #100
People break laws, so your solution is more laws? slackmaster Jan 2013 #103
worked for drunk driving and smoking, didn't it? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #107
He may have SAID he can buy a gun easily, but he hasn't DEMONSTRATED that he can do so. slackmaster Jan 2013 #110
no, i demonsrated how easy it is for him to buy one, and you refuse to admit it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #112
You showed how a person might acquire a firearm ILLEGALLY. slackmaster Jan 2013 #113
and 40% of guns are bought illegally. in reality. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #116
Hey slackmaster. DevonRex Jan 2013 #88
A real gun safe is far superior to any kind of movable trigger lock slackmaster Jan 2013 #89
Thanks. DevonRex Jan 2013 #93
Trigger locks actually suck obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #138
He can probably get a concealed-carry permit, too krispos42 Jan 2013 #13
I doubt that he could pass the California shooting test with his vision slackmaster Jan 2013 #14
I think I would be legally blind without my glasses or contacts krispos42 Jan 2013 #36
I am legally blind in one eye with or without correction. The other corrects to 20/20. slackmaster Jan 2013 #38
I'm 36, and I've had bad eyes since middle school krispos42 Jan 2013 #45
He could get them online, too. freshwest Jan 2013 #16
Yes, but that doesn't relieve him of any of the obstacles I describe in reply #12 slackmaster Jan 2013 #17
It sounds like a good first step then is for all states to adopt CA laws. pnwmom Jan 2013 #39
Slim to none in most states. Ditto on getting CA-style laws passed in Congress. slackmaster Jan 2013 #43
Zero in Washington. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #70
No different than if he went to a local gun store. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #69
it is completely different farminator3000 Jan 2013 #74
Internet sellers will not ship a firearm to a non-licensee in another state slackmaster Jan 2013 #82
see #90 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #91
There's nothing wrong with the law, then. slackmaster Jan 2013 #92
'enforcement problem' is stock NRA doo-doo farminator3000 Jan 2013 #96
Please don't falsely attribute words to me slackmaster Jan 2013 #98
well what does this mean, then farminator3000 Jan 2013 #104
thank you Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #102
Pardon me for knowing how internet firearms transfers work. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #85
that sounds like how you WISH they'd work. or you're just wrong farminator3000 Jan 2013 #90
What are you even talking about? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #101
your completely false statement that buying a gun on the internet is the same as at a store farminator3000 Jan 2013 #117
Uh, you didn't post one goddamn thing that is contrary to my statement. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #120
yes, i did, you didn't look hard enough. or at all? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #123
Have you looked in your local newspaper? It's called the Classified Ads. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #124
great. so the BATF should start buying every gun in every ad in the country and melting them farminator3000 Jan 2013 #128
That's illegal. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #130
someone should arrest these cops then-Police destroy guns bought in buyback program farminator3000 Jan 2013 #132
If they broke the law, well, sucks for them. They should be prosecuted. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #133
why would a bunch of cops announce in the newspaper they were breaking a law??? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #135
I have the same issue with Gun Buybacks by the police in general. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #144
they have potential farminator3000 Jan 2013 #145
That Arizona buyback is highly unusual. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #146
getting less unusual, i hope... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #147
Precisely the point. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #22
I need a link! Hot shit! nt babylonsister Jan 2013 #23
LOL Anyone remember this? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #28
So now people with physical disabilities can't own guns? I don't think he sees the real issue, here. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #29
He collects cars. Oprah Winfrey gave him a Rolls Royce in about 2004. slackmaster Jan 2013 #31
So then there's no problem with him collecting guns. Someone else can shoot them. nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #41
I agree completely. slackmaster Jan 2013 #44
I agree Jarhead1775 Jan 2013 #48
Or someone can assist him. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #71
Buy it, sure, use it is a different story snooper2 Jan 2013 #59
no, you are trying to deflect from the issue he is raising farminator3000 Jan 2013 #77
A California resident cannot buy a gun any time they want, almost anywhere, LEGALLY. slackmaster Jan 2013 #83
again, see#116 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #119
I obviously understand reply #113 a whole lot better than you do slackmaster Jan 2013 #125
#116. whatever. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #129
Anybody can get heroin too. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #127
No, not always actually. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #126
Wow I love him! stuntcat Jan 2013 #34
It's that vision thing people have, it happens in one's own mind nolabels Jan 2013 #35
I love that guy! another_liberal Jan 2013 #37
It will be very educational for a lot of people, if he documents his experience honestly. slackmaster Jan 2013 #40
Yes, it will. another_liberal Jan 2013 #47
Once upon a time, he was "Little Stevie Wonder" Samantha Jan 2013 #46
Lol! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #50
Is he saying that he shouldn't own a gun? xoom Jan 2013 #51
I'm assuming that is his position. nt okaawhatever Jan 2013 #52
I believe he's going to find that the laws are indeed ridiculous, but not for the reasons he thinks. slackmaster Jan 2013 #58
I'm impressed by the number of people yucking it up on the confirmation bias in this thread AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #72
The time Little Stevie Wonder spent with Don Rickles is paying off Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #53
Stevie was the first person who organized me into something political who was outside my family. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #57
Here's the interview with Piers Morgan. slackmaster Jan 2013 #60
Right after he gets his new car. DeSwiss Jan 2013 #76
Guns For The Sight-Impaired Is A Perennial Gun Militant Cause. Paladin Jan 2013 #84
Einstein was right. valerief Jan 2013 #106
Woo hoo, love you, Stevie! Great idea. nt valerief Jan 2013 #97
He won't go through with it. slackmaster Jan 2013 #99
Sounds like Ray Charles when he crashed his Corvette duffyduff Jan 2013 #105
Is there a blind celebrity in a red state? ecstatic Jan 2013 #108
He'll just have to get a laser site.... Historic NY Jan 2013 #109
In Kansas, the Republican controlled legislature deliberately removed the tblue37 Jan 2013 #114
He should do target practice with Ted Nugent Generic Brad Jan 2013 #141
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Stevie Wonder says he wil...»Reply #11