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In reply to the discussion: "Guns don't kill people." Possibly the most stupid meme ever to be floated by the NRA. [View all]hack89
(39,171 posts)60. Murder is down
what the hell are you talking about?
An estimated 14,748 persons were murdered nationwide in 2010. This was a 4.2 percent decrease from the 2009 estimate, a 14.8 percent decrease from the 2006 figure, and an 8.0 percent decrease from the 2001 estimate.
In 2010, there were 4.8 murders per 100,000 inhabitants, a 4.8 percent decrease from the 2009 rate. Compared with the 2006 rate, the murder rate decreased 17.4 percent, and compared with the 2001 rate, the murder rate decreased 15.0 percent. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)
In 2010, there were 4.8 murders per 100,000 inhabitants, a 4.8 percent decrease from the 2009 rate. Compared with the 2006 rate, the murder rate decreased 17.4 percent, and compared with the 2001 rate, the murder rate decreased 15.0 percent. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/violent-crime/murdermain
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"Guns don't kill people." Possibly the most stupid meme ever to be floated by the NRA. [View all]
Whovian
Jan 2013
OP
It's not an analogy. It's a rebuttal to your assertion that those items aren't regulated. (nt)
Heidi
Jan 2013
#30
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have baseball bats." or "only have baseball bats...."
vanbean
Jan 2013
#3
One difference between a gun and a sword is the ability to run away from a sword.
A Simple Game
Jan 2013
#17
Your first link was to an unusually fair and honest report on Florida gun owners. ...
spin
Jan 2013
#82
Thanks for your words of wisdom, we have to stop the assaults on our citizens
Thinkingabout
Jan 2013
#54
i can state as a fact that they are way too high and have gone up since the AWB was lifted
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#34
if you want to call 280 less murders a "drastic" reduction, go ahead, but that makes no sense
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#39
How much did the population increase in that 20 years? There is a reason we focus on rates.
hack89
Jan 2013
#40
so 160,000 assaults sounds about right to you? you're good with 438.4 assaults A DAY?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#67
aggravated assault means all of them, not just ones with guns. you keep cherry picking
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#72
then why are you so stubborn that guns make you safer? how would you even know?
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#79
If you figure there was 1 gun used in each death, 32,163 firearms used out of 270,000,000 isnt that
xoom
Jan 2013
#86
why would someone believe you when you don't post a number or link? you are not an expert
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#43
stop nitpicking annual death total=up. rate ~ the same. amount of guns=way too many
farminator3000
Jan 2013
#62
I wouldn't mind that phrase if they also offered a solution to people who kill people with guns
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#26
I have exercised my fingers many times and no one died from it. Also never saw report reading
Thinkingabout
Jan 2013
#65
I understand that "guns don't kill people" was originally used as a safety mantra taught by
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#42