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MindPilot

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158. Yes. The point is to marginalize non-believers.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jan 2013

A not-so-subtle message to atheists to just not worry our pretty little heads about it.

K & R. n/t FSogol Jan 2013 #1
You have to pick your battles Danmel Jan 2013 #2
I am willing to bet it was picked by Shumer nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #6
Speaking as an atheist, your post would have made much more sense djean111 Jan 2013 #3
I do not believe in god my dear nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #8
And I had not protested the inauguaration; djean111 Jan 2013 #32
Yes, but changes in ceremony nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #51
Actually ceremonies are EXACTLY the place many people choose to pick their battles! riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #66
^ ! ^ bvar22 Jan 2013 #96
Excellent points! RKP5637 Jan 2013 #150
+100!! im1013 Jan 2013 #153
+1000 Fumesucker Jan 2013 #181
To me, one counter point to all of the theology is found in Blanco's poem, because that is what patrice Jan 2013 #188
If not now when? I have every right to protest religion in goverment whenever.... Walk away Jan 2013 #228
That about sums it up for me amuse bouche Jan 2013 #243
Exactly. This isn't the time B.S amuse bouche Jan 2013 #247
yes often the symbolic weight is greater than the practical Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #359
'atheists are their own worst enemy'? SCantiGOP Jan 2013 #57
Yes because atheists and other nonbelievers should just shut up on a discussion board doncha know? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #70
Militant Religious People. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #86
I was countering the declaration in the OP that informed me that I am my own worst enemy. djean111 Jan 2013 #116
I am with you on the you are your own "worst enemy" part of the op. It was wrong. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #120
Growing up non-Christian in the US makes identification of your worst enemies pretty simple Major Nikon Jan 2013 #124
+1 MNBrewer Jan 2013 #281
What's with the hostility toward people having a belief in a higher being? Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #339
I'll get back to you after I see if atheists have ever inflicted wars or crusades or inquisitions djean111 Jan 2013 #383
Obama has gone on a crusade? I missed that. When did that happen? Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #406
First, who decided to narrow the scope down to Obama? djean111 Jan 2013 #408
Minorities who don't know how to be quiet are their own worst enemies Fumesucker Jan 2013 #4
How dare anyone say anything about the insertion of religion into what should be a secular ceremony? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #14
Poutrageous behavior Fumesucker Jan 2013 #19
And ON A DISCUSSION board no less!1!! How DARE anyone make a critique about the ceremony?! riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #37
Jeeeeez, you guys! Tradition! And stuff! Brickbat Jan 2013 #197
It's Obama's ceremony. He believes in a higher being. R-e-s-p-e-c-t. Period. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #340
No, it is the people's celebration Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #379
presence of the divine? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #5
Yeah, but the order followed the same order nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #9
Thats ceremony NoOneMan Jan 2013 #10
This is tradition nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #12
Im not arguing with you about that NoOneMan Jan 2013 #16
I am sure for some that is exactly what you witnessed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #21
Un-American you suggest? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #35
At this point in our history taking leave from all that nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #36
So "Americanism" is being a fearful hostage to your nuts? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #41
Well a civil war is not out of the realm of possibility nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #43
If not mentioning "God" would create a war and plunge a country into crisis, NoOneMan Jan 2013 #44
You realize Fort Sumpter was not the beginning of the civil war nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #48
I don't think you get what I am saying NoOneMan Jan 2013 #50
A few people wrote similar lines nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #53
And on the other end of the neo-liberal slippery slope, NoOneMan Jan 2013 #58
For starters, that word (neoliberal) does not mean what you think nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #115
As far as I was aware, NoOneMan Jan 2013 #147
Yes, they are center right nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #151
You do realize you are in the minority don't you? zeemike Jan 2013 #179
How do you know what I am? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #184
Well that is how democracy works zeemike Jan 2013 #240
Democracy is God's name is mentioned or people start killing people? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #250
I said that? zeemike Jan 2013 #260
That is what the majority of this subthread is about NoOneMan Jan 2013 #267
The thread you are replying on was started by someone kicking the minority Fumesucker Jan 2013 #206
Well you missed my point then. zeemike Jan 2013 #232
It was a few comments on a discussion board, that's what we do here, we discuss things Fumesucker Jan 2013 #237
Well I admit I am not as aware of all of the drama going on zeemike Jan 2013 #248
You've been here long enough to have a clue how this place works Fumesucker Jan 2013 #253
Oh yes I know....I have gotten into it before. zeemike Jan 2013 #264
Kind of the flip side of the real world isn't it? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #272
Is that what it is like out there? zeemike Jan 2013 #309
Here's how it feels for me Fumesucker Jan 2013 #313
While I'll grant you that most of America is religious... MessiahRp Jan 2013 #317
Well I would agree with that. zeemike Jan 2013 #333
In the wake of the first bombs falling on Afghanistan in November 2001, I was heartened coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #215
She meant "reference to the divine", I'm sure. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #13
Words have meanings... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #94
No, I don't know her and I'm not a mind-reader yet NoOneMan Jan 2013 #113
WOW. An almost perfect re-statement of post #70 ^, bvar22 Jan 2013 #111
I have had bowel movements that were religious experiences. nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #67
Every bowel movement can be the most religious experience NoOneMan Jan 2013 #73
Some need a reason to feel sour and bitter today. MineralMan Jan 2013 #7
Well said. Skidmore Jan 2013 #127
K&R !!! RKP5637 Jan 2013 #155
Possibly your best post ever. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #11
kestral, enlightenment Jan 2013 #28
Disappointed to see I consider christofascists and rabid atheists as essentially the same? kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #76
so you are ok with prayer in school too, right? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #92
I didn't say it deprived me of anything. enlightenment Jan 2013 #121
I don't think the benediction took away anyone's rights, alp227 Jan 2013 #148
Well, at least you used the traditional adjective, rabid Fumesucker Jan 2013 #218
Oh, and please direct me to your prior posts where you complained about the benedictions in kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #77
I can't - enlightenment Jan 2013 #123
Tradition! JoeyT Jan 2013 #159
Oh I disagree amuse bouche Jan 2013 #249
Totally agree. nt Raine Jan 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #17
Comprehensively epic win. WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #18
Replace "atheist" with black. jeff47 Jan 2013 #45
yes but it was epic and a win! Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #72
Thank you. nt Pale Blue Dot Jan 2013 #178
stupid, there are/were laws preventing gays, women, blacks etc from getting rights JI7 Jan 2013 #235
If you ignore facts, history and common sense it's all perfectly reasonable. Number23 Jan 2013 #242
Yes, there are still laws out there preventing atheists from holding office riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #255
so why not post about those laws and ask something be done about them JI7 Jan 2013 #258
Here's a link to a list of states that have those laws riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #265
that article said the ATheist will take office regardless of the bigoted state laws JI7 Jan 2013 #268
Post #235, you asked "are there laws which ban an atheist from holding office ?" riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #275
this started off because of comparisons to blacks, gays, women being denied rights JI7 Jan 2013 #279
This link right here is 50 times more powerful than all of the emotional froth Number23 Jan 2013 #289
I believe there's links to Wiki as well. I simply pulled up the first one that caught my eye that riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #291
Yes, there are laws which ban an atheist from holding office. jeff47 Jan 2013 #266
i don't understand the point of your 2nd paragraph JI7 Jan 2013 #271
Post #235, you asked "are there laws which ban an atheist from holding office ?" riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #277
are you saying the 2nd paragraph prevents atheists from holding office ? JI7 Jan 2013 #280
I will wait for Jeff to explain his post. I simply was addressing the goalpost moving nt riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #295
there was no moving of the goalpost since the original point still stands and the arguments are JI7 Jan 2013 #307
That's probably because you seem to think freedom of religion isn't a right. jeff47 Jan 2013 #298
so you don't think same sex marriage is a right ? what does it matter if/when it was included JI7 Jan 2013 #304
You aren't this dumb. jeff47 Jan 2013 #321
i'm not ignoring anything. and i don't support the 2nd amendment JI7 Jan 2013 #323
.....why are you bringing up the second amendment? jeff47 Jan 2013 #330
i'm not ignoring any right, you aren't forced to pray at the inauguration , you don't have to take JI7 Jan 2013 #341
Actually, you were jeff47 Jan 2013 #351
there is no place where i said we didn't have freedom of religion, i'm an atheist JI7 Jan 2013 #353
Very good post. HappyMe Jan 2013 #22
To those bemoaning gun violence... cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #23
Hi to you too!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #25
I know nothing of the sort. cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #39
Whatever dude nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #42
I love when people try to deny what they just wrote. cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #47
Once again, proceed. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #49
Brilliantly put. trotsky Jan 2013 #63
If I could "Rec" this I would. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #107
+1 n/t zappaman Jan 2013 #241
Yep amuse bouche Jan 2013 #251
pretty much nailed it to the wall Kali Jan 2013 #372
Well said. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #88
Yeah, the seats at the back of the bus still go to the same place! jeff47 Jan 2013 #24
I find it highly ironic that the main argument for religion in the inauguration forestpath Jan 2013 #26
It isn't Major Nikon Jan 2013 #128
No kidding amuse bouche Jan 2013 #256
There are people in our 'big tent' whining about this? The Straight Story Jan 2013 #27
So....forced prayer is designed to expand our "big tent"? jeff47 Jan 2013 #56
Someone forced you to pray? Who?? The Straight Story Jan 2013 #60
If this were a school assembly would you get why it was wrong? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #74
Phew! Good thing you dodged the hard part with a quibble on terminology!! jeff47 Jan 2013 #145
Accurate points, on the other hand... davidthegnome Jan 2013 #29
If history is condescension, so be it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #30
As a strident atheist alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #31
I agree. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #34
And plenty of strident feminists jeff47 Jan 2013 #40
News Flash! LiberalElite Jan 2013 #64
So true - Thank you. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #110
that`s best explanation i have read today madrchsod Jan 2013 #82
It's just so mid-century leftstreet Jan 2013 #33
I don't subscribe to, nor believe in any religion, and I agree with you. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #38
I am not religious at all ellie Jan 2013 #46
I didn't listen to them closely, but I thought they seemed pretty neutral, anyway, I thought similar, RKP5637 Jan 2013 #166
"When the Tao is absent, ritual arises." Lao-Tse Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #52
I quit listening to fairy tales long ago so will never believe in a sky daddy but libtodeath Jan 2013 #54
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #55
Who's picking a fight? Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #134
Perhaps I read a different DU nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #149
As an Atheist I didn't mind... Taverner Jan 2013 #59
Separation of Church and State isn't "bemoaning" just1voice Jan 2013 #61
The President is allowed to publicly recognize his faith. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #93
Only if you view an inauguration as a private event. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #95
No it is not. Obama can state his Christian beliefs freely. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #104
I know why it exists. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #117
Are we allowed to have personal opinions on DU? LiberalElite Jan 2013 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author DearHeart Jan 2013 #371
You're supposed to run them by nadinbrzezinski first Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #402
Excellent post, agree 100%. MicaelS Jan 2013 #65
K&R Carolina Jan 2013 #68
it is obama`s vision of america based on his belief madrchsod Jan 2013 #69
There's more than one variety of delicate flower out there, the meare presence of different flowers patrice Jan 2013 #71
Times change, people evolve, and a shout-out to ignorance is no longer needed or appropriate Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #75
... and disrespect will earn you nothing but association with others who are disrespectful too. & patrice Jan 2013 #81
Should I also pretend Palin is not ignorant, or is that a truth it is okay to say? Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #142
Is Palin at the inauguration today? Weren't you referring to thousands of people who like to pray patrice Jan 2013 #180
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #78
Not sure why your bold part matters. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #97
it clearly lays out the rule: no prayers in government functions. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #103
What you are saying is not accurate. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #106
Are you claiming private/parochial schools are government functions? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2013 #203
Don't think your reply was meant for me. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2013 #327
No, it was. jeff47 Jan 2013 #329
The poster was wrong. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #331
Except your quote says it's only legal at private or parochial schools. jeff47 Jan 2013 #336
I am not sure why, but I am still not following you. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #380
I'm an Atheist.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #79
I'll go with the tradition stuff but not your last sentence. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #80
Tradition. Good word, that summed up my feelings in one word. I let the religious RKP5637 Jan 2013 #83
Divine was there??? whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #84
Now that would truly be a miracle! n/t zappaman Jan 2013 #90
Not the correct Devine. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #183
Lol! n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #214
Bible...Schmible PossumSqueezins Jan 2013 #85
Got me! bvar22 Jan 2013 #101
^^^____^^^^ winah nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #118
I liked the inauguration. riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #87
the presence of the divine in the inauguration AlbertCat Jan 2013 #89
In plain English, so you get it. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #125
Is that plain enough to you? AlbertCat Jan 2013 #222
Have fun stormin' that castle nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #224
Have fun stormin' that castle AlbertCat Jan 2013 #226
Hi...see you are annoyed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #229
"You can trash the thread, easy peachy..." zappaman Jan 2013 #244
troll AlbertCat Jan 2013 #363
Now this is what I call a funny nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #365
Nancy Reagan's astrologer directed the country marions ghost Jan 2013 #407
A re-post of some anti-Atheist chain mail screed, MindPilot Jan 2013 #91
False equivalency: Blacks and gays have no choice in the matter, they are born that way Fumesucker Jan 2013 #98
^^^Nice! MindPilot Jan 2013 #105
Those facts don't change anything stupidicus Jan 2013 #99
You have watched an inauguration, it followed the normal pattern. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #126
which again, is meaningless stupidicus Jan 2013 #187
While DUers don't like to admit it, telling atheists to shut up is more common than you'd think riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #190
that sums it up nicely stupidicus Jan 2013 #274
Which is nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #191
I agree, rightwingnuts don't have a monopoly on the ability to exaggerate stupidicus Jan 2013 #294
Good bye nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #296
thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks stupidicus Jan 2013 #300
Belated welcome to DU! riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #311
thanks stupidicus Jan 2013 #342
Welcome to the best "iggy" list on DU zappaman Jan 2013 #370
The solution was to turn the volume off...... DainBramaged Jan 2013 #100
I don't have a problem with including the divine. LWolf Jan 2013 #102
Well, the battle hymn is a patriotic song nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #129
Archbishop Demetrios delivered the Benediction after the Luncheon... nenagh Jan 2013 #139
Please Understand, the West Has Lost the Mystery of the Metaphor mckara Jan 2013 #108
Sounds a lot like certain "arguments" against gun control phantom power Jan 2013 #109
I love the second same false equivalency in the morning. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #131
The perpetuation of belief in myth is killing us broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #112
This s not the place for the battle. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #122
The battle should be fought on every front Major Nikon Jan 2013 #133
Good luck in changing a tradition nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #137
I just see that as an anti-progressive argument Major Nikon Jan 2013 #338
He had the usual in any inaugural nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #343
I'm not telling you we should get rid of anything Major Nikon Jan 2013 #344
I think it has nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #345
And yet nothing in the mainstream Major Nikon Jan 2013 #350
The media rarely speaks of this. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #352
Actually I'd prefer a more European attitude Major Nikon Jan 2013 #357
Then wait a generation nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #360
Funny how mankind has grown just fine Union Scribe Jan 2013 #346
"in its entire history it has never, ever been free of the beliefs you so loathe"? greyl Jan 2013 #361
Feel free to name any place or point in human history Union Scribe Jan 2013 #373
I just roll my eyes amuse bouche Jan 2013 #114
I for one find comfort in rolling my eyes at my nation's leaders Fumesucker Jan 2013 #119
I love this president. I camapigned for him amuse bouche Jan 2013 #194
So we should not raise a voice in protest at the over-the-top religious crap because Amerika has People b4 profits Jan 2013 #130
It had no more or less prayer nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #135
"Oh and" yes, atheists are and can be their own worst enemies. Serious." Not a Fan Jan 2013 #132
Welcome to DU nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #143
Welcome Not a Fan Jan 2013 #207
Welcome lurker nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #209
As an Athiest, frankly, I could care less. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #136
Agreed, wrong place for that battle. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #138
Is there some point ot this collection of logical fallacies? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #140
Yes. The point is to marginalize non-believers. MindPilot Jan 2013 #158
Could have left this part out. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #141
I'm not religious and I totally agree with you. CanonRay Jan 2013 #144
Congratulations Nadine, you have the most popular divisive thread of this inaugural afternoon Fumesucker Jan 2013 #146
SCORE! After all, that was her goal. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #189
Oh good. Another "Shut it, stupid minorities!" post. JoeyT Jan 2013 #152
Speak as much as you want nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #154
Yes, except people make the exact same arguments you did against both of those. JoeyT Jan 2013 #160
Start where you will make the most difference nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #163
Yes, an atheist that makes the exact same arguments as Christians JoeyT Jan 2013 #174
Funny, prayer does not belong in public schools nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #175
Traditionally it was legal to murder one of my race. JoeyT Jan 2013 #195
And my point is that this battle is not picked nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #196
When, exactly, should this battle be picked? jeff47 Jan 2013 #198
In post 51, Nadin tells us that ceremonies are NOT the place to pick a battle. At least now atheists riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #185
There are hundreds of pending lawsuits over prayer at the municipal level. MindPilot Jan 2013 #173
Well said! Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #156
Atheists are minorities? Number23 Jan 2013 #201
Do you have another term for 20% of the population? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2013 #208
How about calling them "20% of the population"? Number23 Jan 2013 #211
Minority has no skin color requirement. jeff47 Jan 2013 #217
Skin color is only one component of being a minority Number23 Jan 2013 #219
You don't think it applies when all 5 of your quoted criteria apply? jeff47 Jan 2013 #234
Wow. Truly a case of someone seeing what they want to see Number23 Jan 2013 #238
Perhaps when you manage to figure out that your first sentence is completely contradictory jeff47 Jan 2013 #262
The three of you doing the "atheists are minorities" argument are something Number23 Jan 2013 #284
If that was true, you wouldn't have so much trouble answering the question jeff47 Jan 2013 #315
Your own definition betrays your reasoning Major Nikon Jan 2013 #362
"suggests" Number23 Jan 2013 #369
Which "suggests" your opinion is very poorly supported Major Nikon Jan 2013 #376
If you believe that one, yes ONE, study conducted in 2006 Number23 Jan 2013 #377
I'm already convinced Major Nikon Jan 2013 #378
I posted the link because of the five criteria that is used in academic circles to define Number23 Jan 2013 #387
All five applied Major Nikon Jan 2013 #388
One, possibly two of the criteria applied Number23 Jan 2013 #390
That's your opinion which you have not supported with anything other than subterfuge Major Nikon Jan 2013 #392
So atheism is now a culture, not a belief Number23 Jan 2013 #393
It seems the more you get backed into a corner, the snarkier you get Major Nikon Jan 2013 #395
So bored with this. The five criteria say it all Number23 Jan 2013 #396
So what exactly is your argument? Major Nikon Jan 2013 #398
You don't even know what strawmen or subterfuge are Number23 Jan 2013 #404
You still haven't made an argument Major Nikon Jan 2013 #405
Physical OR cultural traits. Secularism is a cultural trait. Definition applies. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #236
The Civil Rights Act doesn't define what is and is not a minority Number23 Jan 2013 #239
What percentage of the population are atheists? JoeyT Jan 2013 #216
Being a minority is not only about being a small member or group of a population Number23 Jan 2013 #221
Which of those don't atheists meet? JoeyT Jan 2013 #254
Wow. You've outdone yourself Number23 Jan 2013 #270
I've outdone myself? JoeyT Jan 2013 #290
I don't need to Google what a minority is. I AM a minority Number23 Jan 2013 #292
You are the one shouting, that normally indicated "hysteria" Fumesucker Jan 2013 #302
You again? You should rename yourself The Interjector Number23 Jan 2013 #306
Online typing caps is considered shouting, I'm sure you know that by now Fumesucker Jan 2013 #308
Atheist white man? JoeyT Jan 2013 #303
You started the argument. My first entry was to ask you were atheists minorities Number23 Jan 2013 #310
We likely disagree less than it would seem. JoeyT Jan 2013 #318
Too bad cooler heads couldn't have prevailed in the beginning because I'm pretty much done now Number23 Jan 2013 #320
Gods are mans worst invention bowens43 Jan 2013 #157
But the Inaugural is not the place to fight that fight nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #161
The battle has to be won on the ground before it can go to Washington Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #170
You risk the child who cried wolf syndrome. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #172
That's a lot of adverbs on adjectives, subject changes, and condescension you're gonna get. Festivito Jan 2013 #162
My apologies my good sir, for I wrote English nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #164
Enjoy that nice straw man BlueStreak Jan 2013 #165
Alas my good sir nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #167
this atheist agrees with you Duppers Jan 2013 #168
I'm a non-believer, and I don't mind. JohnnyRingo Jan 2013 #169
Yup, it's about some. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #171
This is officially a secular country. alarimer Jan 2013 #176
A few nations have fought civil wars over that point. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #177
To those lamely justifying turning the inauguration into a fucking church service longship Jan 2013 #182
Well, this had no more or less God than nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #186
Jesus! (So to speak) longship Jan 2013 #192
The Mexican model works too nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #193
I am really sorry, Nadine. longship Jan 2013 #199
You want to change it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #202
Small steps, my dear friend. longship Jan 2013 #212
Why up thread I gave the example of Rosa Parks. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #223
^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ +1000000000000000 Coyotl Jan 2013 #288
Just a note of fact: The Oath orginally did not contain "SO HELP ME GOD" that was an add on by diabeticman Jan 2013 #200
Oh that's all historical and stuff... riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #204
It's been there ever since, right? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #205
Actually, no. It's still not there. jeff47 Jan 2013 #210
Uh, NO, its NOT in the Constitution! riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #213
Same sort of logic used to justify the right wing's stance on gay marriage, etc. RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #220
I recommend you read how that battle has been fought nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #225
A comment on a discussion board is a "frontal attack"? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #233
Really. Atheists are treated to some of the shittiest push back, even on DU. This is a discussion bd riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #259
I agree. It's ridiculous over-reaction. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #276
I wonder why that is. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #349
Nobody's been told they're idiots for their beliefs, except atheists who've expressed an OPINION riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #386
I have no problem with the presence of the Divine at the inauguration. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #227
^^^__^^^ next thread winah. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #230
I would say, " get over it!" demosincebirth Jan 2013 #231
Well, the imagined presence of the divine. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #245
Just know this is not the place for that fight nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #246
Not fighting. Just telling the truth. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #252
Says who...the divine? amuse bouche Jan 2013 #257
What divine? Sorry if the usage of language more in step nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #261
Like the NRA amuse bouche Jan 2013 #263
Oh you misunderstand. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #269
No I didn't misunderstand. amuse bouche Jan 2013 #282
I suggest you trash the thread nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #285
Lol amuse bouche Jan 2013 #312
Funny how it never, ever is the place for that fight. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #273
That *WAS* a good place nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #283
just...... whatever dude. Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #278
That delusion "presence of the divine" will give way to reason with maturity Coyotl Jan 2013 #286
Fight it where you can have an effect nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #287
I find it endearing Laochtine Jan 2013 #293
No matter what "battle" atheists pick, it's never the right battle. Evoman Jan 2013 #297
I have no issues on battles nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #299
Frontal attacks don't work? Strategic? Evoman Jan 2013 #305
Oh dear amuse bouche Jan 2013 #314
Yup, why the civil right movement nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #322
Honestly, I could care less about your inaugurals. Evoman Jan 2013 #324
So why post about it? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #325
Geez, no need to get offended. My response is not infantile. Evoman Jan 2013 #337
Yup amuse bouche Jan 2013 #328
Lol Union Scribe Jan 2013 #347
Well, what would you do if you were atheist and felt excluded and marginalized? Evoman Jan 2013 #356
Everyone is excluded from something. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #358
A good response to prejudice is to just accept it? Evoman Jan 2013 #364
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #374
Are you saying that that's what I'm doing? Evoman Jan 2013 #375
man, evoman, that was *right on* Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #367
If a public school forced students to recite the Lords Prayer, knock yourself out. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #368
Ah, yes... it's tradition, so we shouldn't even discuss it kdmorris Jan 2013 #301
It's hilarious amuse bouche Jan 2013 #316
And shut up kdmorris Jan 2013 #319
Well that goes without saying amuse bouche Jan 2013 #326
Yep. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #401
I find some atheists just as annoying as religious fanatics cherish44 Jan 2013 #332
And yet here you are clicking on a thread about religion Fumesucker Jan 2013 #334
I tried to start a thread about my cat's tapeworm and it sunk like a stone cherish44 Jan 2013 #381
I think threads like this are ample enough proof of what you say. nt Union Scribe Jan 2013 #348
so do i , and i'm an atheist JI7 Jan 2013 #355
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #366
It's like you've never seen "Fiddler on the Roof" or something. Brickbat Jan 2013 #335
"the presence of the divine in the inauguration" presumes that religious activities are ladjf Jan 2013 #354
We have separation of state because we have freedom of religion. They go hand in hand. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #382
I'm not the least bit religious, but level of twisting of knickers SpartanDem Jan 2013 #384
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #385
"Mexico, fought a few bloody civil wars over it" Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #389
Well, you could try reading nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #391
Burn Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #399
Well, good bye. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #400
God bye to you too Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #403
Here we are again, the majority telling the minority to fuck off, you can't change it anyway. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #394
Ah, but the "divine" probably wasn't present and maybe doesn't even exist. redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #397
Has anyone suggested bringing suit against the administration sylvi Jan 2013 #409
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