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21. god, protect me from your followers!

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Check In IF You Found All The Religious Crapola Disappointing [View all] stopbush Jan 2013 OP

Speaking as a nonbeliever, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #1

Same here. Today is for everyone. Politicub Jan 2013 #2

Yeah, I wrote it off to part of the process ... as you said, "Today is for everyone." n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #9

Me three union_maid Jan 2013 #17

Agreed. It is what it is. n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #6

Same. I felt the entire event was all-inclusive. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #7

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #13

EXACTLY. All-inclusive and nondenominational, and minimally religious. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #108

Ditto that. n/t RebelOne Jan 2013 #45

Speaking as an atheist - me neither. liberalmuse Jan 2013 #81

Nonbeliever here too, it's part of the territory, unfortunately condoleeza Jan 2013 #127

I felt neither excluded nor disrespected. Public civic rituals always include a nod to God. Hekate Jan 2013 #137

I get tired of it ... it seems to be a given part of the pomp and circumstance, I RKP5637 Jan 2013 #3

Didn't bother me Flashmann Jan 2013 #4

Actually, I think it drives them even crazier ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #28

<snort> agracie Jan 2013 #56

I'm with you Joe. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #74

And I will add ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #84

Excellent point, and I am with you all the way with that. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #109

I really wish there wasn't such a heavy emphasis as well. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #5

For having a "secular" government, we sure do wallow in a lot of religion at public political events RC Jan 2013 #34

Yup. I understand the pandering and religious stuff must be included to appease the believers riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #40

Religion is on the decline in the US, contrary to what the christofascists would have us believe. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #111

Expressing an opinion on a private discussion board is "causing a public scene"? Really Kestrel? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #124

Well it doesn't violate our constitution. Not sure how it is in your country. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #110

In the beginning we adopted Columbia to serve this purpose. The secular embodiment Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #163

I always find it tiresome. Brickbat Jan 2013 #8

I don't give 2 shits. phleshdef Jan 2013 #10

If by religious you mean Christian... peace13 Jan 2013 #57

Untrue. 73% of Americans identify as Christian. phleshdef Jan 2013 #61

I really doubt that glowy Jan 2013 #102

If someone says they consider themselves a Christian, I just take their word for it. phleshdef Jan 2013 #107

That would be me. I attend about once every 3 or 4 years, and mostly for Christmas music or Easter kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #114

So how do you quantify such percentages Union Scribe Jan 2013 #131

I have to admit there was a lot of it, Lars39 Jan 2013 #11

every inauguration in history backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #12

I could've done without it but, it was a strong, powerful speech. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #14

What religious crapola? lonestarnot Jan 2013 #15

I don't like the emphasis on it, but it wasn't overly bothersome. n/t cynatnite Jan 2013 #16

Yup, pretty much. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #20

K&R Religion has no place in government - EVER. forestpath Jan 2013 #18

Get over it. It's on our CURRENCY. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #87

And it shouldn't be. GET OVER IT YOURSELF. forestpath Jan 2013 #90

No governing went on today. This was a glorified coming-out party. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #115

Let's face it. It's an ecumenical church service. Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #151

I didn't mind it. Third Doctor Jan 2013 #19

god, protect me from your followers! yortsed snacilbuper Jan 2013 #21

Irony: WinkyDink Jan 2013 #89

It was practically nothing compared to past ones. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #22

no bother to me Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #23

if you had ever seen a presidential inaugural before you would have known what to expect arely staircase Jan 2013 #24

Oh, RILLY? You must have been "disappoint[ed]" every 4 years, then. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #25

Every day that Congress is in session is another afront to the Constitution when a prayer is said Coyotl Jan 2013 #29

I know all about the Enlightenment and Deism, having taught some British history. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #83

Careful with that type of thinking. You'll get in trouble like I did. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #117

^^ Oh Noes. The Religious people are being persecuted again! ^^ MessiahRp Jan 2013 #140

I am completely opposed to all the things you list kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #144

Until the 1950's, during McCarthyism, we weren't one nation under god. lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #31

Until the 1950's, AlbertCat Jan 2013 #80

He more than made up for it with the really inclusive benediction, IMHO lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #26

So which is it, then? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #78

Disappointing would be an understatement. It is a scandal of Constitutional proportions Coyotl Jan 2013 #27

Did you post this in January, 2001? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #86

You can't imagine what I spewed on Junta day. Coyotl Jan 2013 #100

I demand equal time every year at Thanksgiving after my father-in-law JoePhilly Jan 2013 #30

As an Atheist.... Taverner Jan 2013 #32

THANK YOU. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #119

Yes, and I thinking that during the ceremony. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #33

No. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #35

+1 MineralMan Jan 2013 #43

I'm tired of it in general... Iggo Jan 2013 #36

Point to one inauguration in US history without any of this nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #37

The multiple posts of gripes are verging on the disingenuous, for me. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #85

I might agree that I'd prefer a 100% secular ceremony nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #93

Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #136

Nope, didn't bother me. I was focused on the history & beauty of it. nt Raine Jan 2013 #38

I found it off-putting and exclusionary. longship Jan 2013 #39

The civil, legal ceremony was YESTERDAY. This was a public kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #47

Do you mean... longship Jan 2013 #50

You're wrong. Inauguration Day is the High Holy Day of our "civil religion" Bake Jan 2013 #105

Gees Louise! I am not buying that. nt longship Jan 2013 #129

I've been an atheist since 1965, and it didn't bother me. MineralMan Jan 2013 #41

Yep. To quote Dieter: Religious ones, "your story has become tiresome." Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #42

I'm always hopeful that at some point our country will be able to shake off these binding chains... AzDar Jan 2013 #44

Please explain how this particular inauguration was ANY different in this regard kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #46

I can't speak for the OP but this one's not any different. Therein lies the problem. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #49

Symbolism should divest itself of symbolism. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #71

This was not a secular transfer of power. That happened yesterday. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #120

The only reason there was an oath yesterday was that it was Sunday! longship Jan 2013 #132

As an aetheist zappaman Jan 2013 #48

Atheist here also and I could also care less. RebelOne Jan 2013 #160

Nope - thought it was very appropriate. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #51

At least the evangelical kooks were not invited to this one. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #52

If this is all you have to worry about today...well then... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2013 #53

So, no comment about the President's speech. HappyMe Jan 2013 #54

I don't see anyone "establishing" religion. Let's not become "kooks" like the right wingers. swayne Jan 2013 #55

What "fight to destroy religion"? LiberalElite Jan 2013 #67

Thank you for your concern. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #121

So they can have their religion Union Scribe Jan 2013 #133

My dream on MLK day is that religion will someday be abolished from our.... Walk away Jan 2013 #58

It's the President's prerogative. slackmaster Jan 2013 #59

I remember JFK's inagural address in 1961. bvar22 Jan 2013 #60

I'm actually amused bvar. Its not more or less religious imho from past inaugurals. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #62

You really needed to research more (I was 10, also): WinkyDink Jan 2013 #91

Thread winner. Number23 Jan 2013 #99

Not so much disappointing . . . Richard D Jan 2013 #63

me too eom LiberalElite Jan 2013 #64

I am glad Obama's inauguration people sent that anti-gay fundie packing... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #65

I loved it when the orthodox Archbishop said this was the greatest honor of his life. pnwmom Jan 2013 #66

I noticed Jesus was very present. didn't think anyone else would notice. robinlynne Jan 2013 #68

I found it disappointing because it's always expected... PerpetuallyDazed Jan 2013 #69

Obama in particular has to tread very carefully here, what with the constant kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #122

yeah, all this religious "crapola" on the birthday of Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. onenote Jan 2013 #70

Seems to me this was an inauguration. progressoid Jan 2013 #142

If you know anything about Reverend King onenote Jan 2013 #143

So that's what we were celebrating yesterday? progressoid Jan 2013 #148

we were celebrating two things: the inauguration of a president and the life of great man onenote Jan 2013 #149

The Battle Hymn of the Republic is an American classic. iandhr Jan 2013 #72

Being an atheist adieu Jan 2013 #73

A little. LWolf Jan 2013 #75

Not at all. vduhr Jan 2013 #76

I don't really care much for either Kelly Clarkson or Beyonce. They both annoyed me far more kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #123

To me, it was about like this.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #77

Why would I be disappointed in something that lets me feel superior? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #79

Obviously, separation of church and state isn't important whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #82

I expected it, so there is no way to be disappointed treestar Jan 2013 #88

It was more than disappointing. It was obnoxious. DavidDvorkin Jan 2013 #92

It is part of the traditions. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #94

Not in the least. cordelia Jan 2013 #95

I found it remarkably irrelevant davidthegnome Jan 2013 #96

so used to it I just tune it out Skittles Jan 2013 #97

Didn't bother me because I did not watch it tularetom Jan 2013 #98

I do too. allGoodThings Jan 2013 #101

So did I and ann--- Jan 2013 #103

I think some people feel more comfortable moondust Jan 2013 #104

Jesus Christ will you give it a fuckin' rest? NBachers Jan 2013 #106

Yeah, that's pretty much what the OP wants, give Jesus Christ a rest He's all worn out n/t Fumesucker Jan 2013 #113

Get over yourself!! 80% of this country which Obama represents is religious!! Pisces Jan 2013 #112

Yeah, fuck those one out five Americans! Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #153

Close your ears when the prayer part comes. I am not religious and somehow found it ok to listen Pisces Jan 2013 #166

I don't really care one way or the other, but I find the utter lack of empathy astonishing. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #167

Wrong, Obama has always mentioned nonbelievers. You are trying to make an issue of a non issue. Pisces Jan 2013 #170

I didn't notice. I tune out all that religious crapola. n/t Whisp Jan 2013 #116

It just feeds to a different crowd... Tikki Jan 2013 #118

The American Taliban, and by that I mean all of the desperately wishful that devote so much of their Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #125

Obama = Taliban. Good contribution dude. nt Union Scribe Jan 2013 #134

Delusion is delusion, who it is that holds the delusion doesn't matter. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #146

Whatever. Can I hook you up to the live feed of the presidential prayer service happening now at kwassa Jan 2013 #147

No thanks. Not interested. onenote Jan 2013 #154

Whatever, no. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #162

And yet it was exactly that: an honest belief in some "omnipotent sky daddy" that enabled and onenote Jan 2013 #150

You give credit where none exists and proceed from that false premise. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #152

Now you're just embarassing yourself. onenote Jan 2013 #155

So, you have no argument and resort to insult. Again, typical. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #156

Sorry if you feel insulted. But you are pretending to know things you don't know about Dr. King. onenote Jan 2013 #158

I'm not insulted at all, but that was clearly your intent. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #161

I didn't watch it, so it didn't bother me in the slightest. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #126

Listening to it on the radio.. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #128

It simply does not belong in government. RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #130

Meh. JoeyT Jan 2013 #135

I didn't see any of it, and skipped it on purpose but quinnox Jan 2013 #138

lol. you didn't see it or hear it but of course you don't let that little tiny detail cali Jan 2013 #139

Why, if you didn't see it, HappyMe Jan 2013 #141

I can piece together what it was like from reading various posts on DU quinnox Jan 2013 #145

skipped it altogether but I despise religous claptrap.... mike_c Jan 2013 #157

So you've never listened to Dr. King's entire I Have A Dream Speech onenote Jan 2013 #159

I didn't pay any attention to it but, given all the outrage caused by it, TheManInTheMac Jan 2013 #164

I agree. You know what's funny.. Is some folks on the right rainlillie Jan 2013 #169

Typical is rather boring. rainlillie Jan 2013 #165

all the more reason... lanlady Jan 2013 #168