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farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
21. i think 'the ONLY thing that stops a bad guy' is even dumber.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jan 2013

just because there are thousands of things that stop a bad guy, and a gun is actually the last resort.

or perhaps everything they say is equally preposterous and insidious- one big steaming hill of crap!

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A good rule of thumb is to just keep your gun at home, dumbasses. If you are, say, going to start an argument with your girlfriend’s ex-husband at his car wash, as Deounce Harden did in 2006, if you bring your gun, these things can happen:

1. The guy you’re arguing with runs away, because you are clearly insane.
2. The guy you’re arguing with shoots you, because he has a gun too. Whoops.
3. A fight breaks out, your gun gets taken, and you get shot. Whoops again.
4. The guy comes at you and you’re worried about your gun getting taken, so you shoot him and now you might go to prison for a long time.

That’s the entire list of possible outcomes. At no time in history has someone said, “Oh, I see you’ve decided to exercise your Second Amendment rights. Clearly, sir, you are in the right on this question, and I respectfully withdraw my opposition to you.” The more likely response to a gun being drawn is, “What are you going to do, you stupid-ass motherfucker? Shoot me?” or, “Alright, Imma go get my gun, then we’ll see who’s the big man ‘round these parts.”

This week the Tampa Bay Times came out with a terrific long story about the effects of the “Stand Your Ground” law. It reveals some pretty fucked inconsistencies in how the law is applied and includes a great quote from a judge who says the law “could conceivably result in all persons who exchanged gunfire on a public street being immune from prosecution.” (This is Florida, so persons exchanging gunfire on a public street is something that happens.) The article is also a treasure trove of stories of people getting shot for very, very stupid reasons. A man shoots another man on a basketball court over an argument over a woman. Some dude kills his cousin over 60 bucks. Two people die when a fight starts after the bar at a Chili’s closes.
http://www.vice.com/read/dont-take-your-guns-to-town-morons

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The Top 16 N.R.A. Slogans

16. Fascism -- It Ain't Just for Nazis Anymore

15. Do What We Say and No One Gets Hurt!

14. 1997 Recipient of the Disgruntled Postal Worker Seal Of Approval

13. Today's NRA -- Still Gun-Ho on America (and now 60% sane!)

12. Second Amendment, College Boy -- Read It and Weep

11. Helping to Reduce the Surplus Population, One Innocent Bystander at a Time

10. Why Don't Y'all Go Bother the Knife People for a While, Huh?!

9. The NRA: Relieving Feelings of Inadequacy for 125 Years

8. Fer Chrissakes! Watch Where Yer Pointin' That Thing!

7. Every Waiting Period's Gotta End Sometime, You Pussy-Whipped Liberal Pantywaists

6. When You Absolutely, Positively Have to Kill Someone

5. The NRA: Buying Legislators Today So YOU Can Buy Automatic Weapons Tomorrow

4. Guns! The *Affordable* Phallic Substitute

3. A Couple Thousand Yokels in Pickup Trucks Can't Be Wrong

2. Uzi Does It!

And the Number One N.R.A. Slogan . . .

1. Who Do You Want to Shoot Today?

"Guns don't kill people" has been around since the invention of guns. Initech Jan 2013 #1
As Charlton Heston said: SCantiGOP Jan 2013 #37
Well, Chuck finally got those "cold, dead hands" he kept blathering about! 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #51
Neither does just about anything else jberryhill Jan 2013 #2
thank you n/t DemocratsForProgress Jan 2013 #10
Which is why ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #15
Oh, but we do. Heidi Jan 2013 #20
So to follow the analogy all the way ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #23
It's not an analogy. It's a rebuttal to your assertion that those items aren't regulated. (nt) Heidi Jan 2013 #30
It was jberryhill's analogy ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #31
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have baseball bats." or "only have baseball bats...." vanbean Jan 2013 #3
Or maybe steak knives or rocks? Whovian Jan 2013 #4
Or a board with a nail in it! SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #6
Is there any other device that is designed specifically to kill people? loyalsister Jan 2013 #5
Interesting question. ... spin Jan 2013 #8
What? Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #9
The question was ... spin Jan 2013 #13
One difference between a gun and a sword is the ability to run away from a sword. A Simple Game Jan 2013 #17
Most criminals can't hit the broad side of a barn with a gun. ... spin Jan 2013 #69
I was looking for something manufactured in today's world. loyalsister Jan 2013 #71
Swords are still manufactured in today's world. ... spin Jan 2013 #83
LOL loyalsister Jan 2013 #84
You keep refining your question. ... spin Jan 2013 #85
It's true.. I have been loyalsister Jan 2013 #87
I've enjoyed target shooting handguns for over 40 years ... spin Jan 2013 #88
Disco Music? jberryhill Jan 2013 #11
ha! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #22
weapons of war? more accurate, but sounds a little dramatic... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #80
Guns don't kill people, Gun Owners® kill people LeftInTX Jan 2013 #7
It will probably get worse. StarryNite Jan 2013 #12
I agree. That scares me and I am a gun owner who has enjoyed target shooting ... spin Jan 2013 #16
Great post. Thanks. Whovian Jan 2013 #18
nice to hear a responsible voice! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #24
Your first link was to an unusually fair and honest report on Florida gun owners. ... spin Jan 2013 #82
yep, that article is kind of an eye-opener farminator3000 Jan 2013 #89
Thanks for your words of wisdom, we have to stop the assaults on our citizens Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #54
The past 30 years would argue otherwise hack89 Jan 2013 #19
they'd also argue it has NOTHING to do with more guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #25
So when you have some actual facts let me know. hack89 Jan 2013 #27
a think a general overview is enough to back up the FACT farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29
So you can actually demonstrate a steady increase in gun deaths? hack89 Jan 2013 #33
i can state as a fact that they are way too high and have gone up since the AWB was lifted farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34
So murders down drastically with rate cut in half. hack89 Jan 2013 #35
if you want to call 280 less murders a "drastic" reduction, go ahead, but that makes no sense farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39
How much did the population increase in that 20 years? There is a reason we focus on rates. hack89 Jan 2013 #40
they were flying off the shelf because weirdos were hoarding them farminator3000 Jan 2013 #45
So more assualt weapons did not actually lead to more killings? hack89 Jan 2013 #48
There was a drop in firearm murders of 1450 from 2006 to 2010 alone hack89 Jan 2013 #41
like i keep telling you, that is because of DOCTORS not MORe GUNZ farminator3000 Jan 2013 #46
Besides the FBI saying that aggravated assaults are down? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #50
did they happen to tell you why? maybe call them up and ask. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53
Does it matter - as long as fewer people are being shot hack89 Jan 2013 #56
more people are being shot is what matters, obviously. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #58
Not if aggravated assaults are down. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #61
so 160,000 assaults sounds about right to you? you're good with 438.4 assaults A DAY? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67
We have reduced the rate of aggravated assaults by 60% hack89 Jan 2013 #70
aggravated assault means all of them, not just ones with guns. you keep cherry picking farminator3000 Jan 2013 #72
"the lowest rate since 2004" hack89 Jan 2013 #74
great, getting shot is okay as long as the doctors can save you farminator3000 Jan 2013 #76
I live in a very safe town - danger has nothing to do with why I own guns hack89 Jan 2013 #77
then why are you so stubborn that guns make you safer? how would you even know? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #79
I am not safer because of guns hack89 Jan 2013 #81
If you figure there was 1 gun used in each death, 32,163 firearms used out of 270,000,000 isnt that xoom Jan 2013 #86
i bet medical tech is key arely staircase Jan 2013 #28
The flaw in that analysis is that aggravated assaults are not up hack89 Jan 2013 #36
that would not be consistent with my thesis (based on a hunch), no. arely staircase Jan 2013 #38
why would someone believe you when you don't post a number or link? you are not an expert farminator3000 Jan 2013 #43
I have posted the FBI crime reports many times hack89 Jan 2013 #44
and proved zilcho farminator3000 Jan 2013 #47
Besides aggravated assaults going down, you mean. hack89 Jan 2013 #49
so aggravated assaults are going down because less a-holes have guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #52
But fewer aggravated assaults mean fewer people being shot. hack89 Jan 2013 #55
no, suicide and murder are up, so not really at all. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #57
Murder is down hack89 Jan 2013 #60
stop nitpicking annual death total=up. rate ~ the same. amount of guns=way too many farminator3000 Jan 2013 #62
Those numbers are not homicide deaths. hack89 Jan 2013 #64
again with the 1993 thing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #66
I just showed you a decline every year from 2006 to 2010 hack89 Jan 2013 #68
yes, for the 12th time, homicides are down because of DOCTORS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73
You just showed me that aggravated assaults with guns are the lowest in years hack89 Jan 2013 #75
no, you just read bad. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #78
It was invented back before they were nuts. JoeyT Jan 2013 #14
i think 'the ONLY thing that stops a bad guy' is even dumber. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #21
I wouldn't mind that phrase if they also offered a solution to people who kill people with guns Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #26
Guns don't kill people, crazy gun owners kill people. goblue316 Jan 2013 #32
I have exercised my fingers many times and no one died from it. Also never saw report reading Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #65
I understand that "guns don't kill people" was originally used as a safety mantra taught by okaawhatever Jan 2013 #42
As far as I'm concerned wryter2000 Jan 2013 #59
Why do these guns keep killing people....why? ileus Jan 2013 #63
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