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In reply to the discussion: do men, who do not believe in white male privilege/entitlement oppose affirmative action? [View all]Nikia
(11,411 posts)78. I think that the presence of women and minorities in previously all white male organizations
Encourages other qualified women and minorities to join the organization and succeed. I suppose that it is possible to see diversity as a good thing and be in favor of affirmative action for this reason and not believe in white male privilege.
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seabeyond
Jan 2013
OP
then i would think that would just be another reason that it would be hard to get white males
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#2
ya. in my job i did a lot of hiring. the whole comparative "as capable". but, there
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#5
How does the OP explain that about 70% of NFL players are black? Racism in coaching, merit on the
Romulox
Jan 2013
#6
big difference between the front office jobs and head coach, and the players on the field.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#9
"Big difference" doesn't explain why the players are selected for merit, but coaches aren't.
Romulox
Jan 2013
#15
as i said, i think that there is a conscious and unconscious belief that white male own those
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#20
it is with numbers. times. passes. scores. those are clear black and white number to the best
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#34
also, having been in management, that is kinda a precieved ability and if one is conditioned
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#52
I'm not sure it's true that "blacks make up the largest number of players". That's only confirmed
Romulox
Jan 2013
#98
Occam's razor: owners are acting in their perceived best interest--selecting people they think will
Romulox
Jan 2013
#17
Fair enough. Is it possible, however, that the owners hire coaches within their comfort zone?
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#19
That's why there needs to be organizations to address class privilege as well
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2013
#76
then you ignore the part where people inherently go toward a white person as opposed to a black
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#10
true that. i recognize that. you are right. and i am not here to battle the notion either.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#18
Ah, but is he defending women by going after dead beat dads or is he punishing men he doesn't see
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#94
his career is with city?county? going after those (man or woman) that does not pay child support.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#95
Ah, good for him. My dad was a pilot in the Air Force, I always love seeing women pilots! nt
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#96
thanks for your explanation. more a philosophical question that heart bleeding. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#38
i really liked moon. thank you for your post. it explains a lot. very interesting.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#39
It starts in high school having black kids run the option, and it is indicative
Drahthaardogs
Jan 2013
#73
I oppose affirmative action because I watch my dad barely scrape by...
Comrade_McKenzie
Jan 2013
#31
true that. it is also known that more attractive people will be hired over the less
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#48
because they can only take a smoke break when breaks are allowed for all, and cause they are
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#57
very good point. i know it is that way with our younger women. but then, they have had a couple
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#81
...only after laws are enacted that go against base human behavior. It's HUMAN to want to relate to
uponit7771
Jan 2013
#103
& Dungy proved that Bucs not being S Bowl champs wasn't about him when Colts won w/him as head coach
okaawhatever
Jan 2013
#99
he is young. and he talks. he does not walk it perfectly yet, but... he listens.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#84
I think jobs should be awarded based on the best person applying for the job.
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jan 2013
#74
So help economically disadvantaged people, whatever their race happens to be.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#83
Yes. If any minorities do happen to be systematically more disadvantaged, then they will
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jan 2013
#87
but we have found that does not work and ignores the problem. as i said, all you have to do is look
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#86
I can see how in any given year there would be no black head coaches in the NFL...
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2013
#75
Good point. Perhaps the racial makeup of NFL coaches doesn't mean much after all (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#82
I think that the presence of women and minorities in previously all white male organizations
Nikia
Jan 2013
#78
Yep. And the billionaire NBA owners decided that 14 black guys out of 30 coaches
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#92
Neither is the voting rights act...come on, the "aint" argument died after 2008
uponit7771
Jan 2013
#104
Is this about "Head Coach" positions? Or does it include assistants?
JustABozoOnThisBus
Jan 2013
#107