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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
1. I use USPS for shipping
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jan 2013

Here's the tradeoff though, if I ship by Priority Mail which goes by air for longer distances then I can print out the postage at home and the mail truck will stop by my residence and pick the package up from the porch, I don't have to drive to the Post Office (about ten mile round trip for me) to take it, also I get tracking included in the price.

I really don't know where the cost/benefit/co2 tradeoff lies in that case, I do know it's more convenient for me and saves a considerable amount of energy and co2 emissions on my end since the mail truck makes the rounds every day anyway.



I use USPS for shipping Fumesucker Jan 2013 #1
The pounds CO2 per mile traveled per person for flying is about the same as driving a car at 38 MPG. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #2
And don't fly alone, either! frazzled Jan 2013 #5
Take train tama Jan 2013 #33
tama... as soon as we have a train that can travel the same speed as a jet, I'm on board. n/t a geek named Bob Jan 2013 #70
Ah, the Gray Gentlemen, the Time Thieves tama Jan 2013 #77
People actually think we'll always have air travel... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #92
That's not practicable in many cases frazzled Jan 2013 #90
And not to mention tama Jan 2013 #95
to visit my son i have to fly riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #144
Umm, no. MadHound Jan 2013 #7
Airlines would do good to do folding props until they get altitude, take off energy is REALLY high uponit7771 Jan 2013 #126
Um, nothing in your post varies from what I wrote. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #156
I stand by the general points drawn from the data in my post. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #157
What if I drive an electric car in a nuclear or hydroelectric powered neighborhood... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #148
ZNC! NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #150
I have quinnox Jan 2013 #3
I don't fly unless I absolutely, positively HAVE to. HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #4
Agreed! Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #29
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #6
+1. closeupready Jan 2013 #22
You forgot to say he's fat and it snowed last week so har har you librul dummies and he's fat. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #102
One small correction; A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #8
Dont attack air travel, support Better solutions: Enviro Friendly Jet engines + High Speed Rail stevenleser Jan 2013 #9
We would be best served by a system that uses already existing rights of way Fumesucker Jan 2013 #12
Yes, existing rights of way. IIRC, most trains I have taken in Europe travel alongside highways. stevenleser Jan 2013 #14
You don't need new tech for more efficient aircraft, turbo-prop engines are more efficient and... JVS Jan 2013 #17
I think there are two issues, the noise you mention and the perception of it being older and less stevenleser Jan 2013 #18
No thanks. I like getting a little thing called a paycheck. B2G Jan 2013 #10
Sure. When all the concerned celebrities and politicians give up their private jets. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #11
Then why tama Jan 2013 #34
If me stopping flying generated the same publicity as Al Gore and Bono would Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #37
Weird "logic" tama Jan 2013 #42
I notice you didn't cite any RW public person. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #103
The standard character assassination strategy tama Jan 2013 #108
They were the first two names that sprang to mind Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #125
So, will we have a new fleet of cross-Atlantic liners that can make the trip in 3 days? sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #13
No thanks. zappaman Jan 2013 #15
Clouds look pretty much same everywhere - if you get window seat tama Jan 2013 #35
If I could drive to Palau or Australia or, this year, Thailand...I would. n/t zappaman Jan 2013 #43
By ship... tama Jan 2013 #45
If my vacations was over a month long, maybe. zappaman Jan 2013 #49
When my friends were in traveling age tama Jan 2013 #55
That's pretty awesome! zappaman Jan 2013 #57
Nice bit of attitude there, MadHound Jan 2013 #47
Sorry, but flying is a reality. zappaman Jan 2013 #48
Rationalizing your selfish attitude, hmm. MadHound Jan 2013 #50
ummm... zappaman Jan 2013 #52
I do what is necessary to keep my carbon footprint as small as possible, MadHound Jan 2013 #60
Bully for you! zappaman Jan 2013 #62
In truth tama Jan 2013 #61
I agree! zappaman Jan 2013 #63
K&R The first step to solving a problem is to understand that you have a problem. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #16
I would never see my family Prism Jan 2013 #19
No thanks. closeupready Jan 2013 #20
Airflight is a drop in the bucket. China spews more carbon in an hour... Taverner Jan 2013 #21
Sad, but likely true. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #153
I know you mean well, MadHound, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #23
Heh RobertEarl Jan 2013 #24
Completely wrong. People are just demanding better solutions than "Dont use airplanes for anything" stevenleser Jan 2013 #25
Yeah, keep on trucking RobertEarl Jan 2013 #31
Translation: "It has to be my way." No, it doesn't. Those are perfectly good solutions. stevenleser Jan 2013 #36
Not my way RobertEarl Jan 2013 #41
If I can get there in 2 days or less driving, I drive liberal N proud Jan 2013 #26
Absolutely would not give up air travel, ever Godhumor Jan 2013 #27
I don't get vacations long enough to drive anywhere. LeftyMom Jan 2013 #28
I am sure in a few years... AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #30
One good thing about 911.........no air traffic for a few days thelordofhell Jan 2013 #32
Not over lower Manhattan. n/t DeadEyeDyck Jan 2013 #68
Some people say things that are absolutely stunning, don't they? alphafemale Jan 2013 #137
The responses to this thread are stunning, MadHound Jan 2013 #38
Hell, if convenience is now something to be ashamed of, why don't we go back to horse and buggy? Godhumor Jan 2013 #44
Let's see, what is that tradeoff? MadHound Jan 2013 #46
So, screed about cars, too Godhumor Jan 2013 #59
Shhhhh...the OP has created their own perfect world for themselves zappaman Jan 2013 #53
At certain phase tama Jan 2013 #71
ok zappaman Jan 2013 #73
I guess he has a windmill Sissyk Jan 2013 #113
Amish are doing fine tama Jan 2013 #106
Yeah. They run the best puppy mills. nt alphafemale Jan 2013 #138
Maybe you should take a math class before advancing idiotic ideas geek tragedy Jan 2013 #88
No... greytdemocrat Jan 2013 #107
Are you stunned that Al Gore travels around by private jet? (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #134
Thanks tama Jan 2013 #39
Hey, my first car was a 1952 DeSoto! Oh, and flying IS about the worst thing you can do to the Kip Humphrey Jan 2013 #40
One more reason why I want them to bring back the airships... Ian David Jan 2013 #51
OTOH, airplanes are mass transit of a sort Hekate Jan 2013 #54
Be nice if there was a choice. MindPilot Jan 2013 #56
see this vid: air traffic in 24 hours... Whisp Jan 2013 #58
No problem union_maid Jan 2013 #64
Carbon Tax FreeJoe Jan 2013 #65
I quit flying when my last out-of-state relative died SoCalDem Jan 2013 #66
hmmmm zappaman Jan 2013 #67
Hmmm, looks like your conscience is rattling your cage. MadHound Jan 2013 #69
Project much? zappaman Jan 2013 #72
LOL, your very post belies your words, MadHound Jan 2013 #74
LOL! zappaman Jan 2013 #75
I'm part of the problem, too tama Jan 2013 #89
How do I get to London next month? Glassunion Jan 2013 #76
Boat. MadHound Jan 2013 #78
You realize that the large sea going vessel Godhumor Jan 2013 #83
Why do you hate the planet? Boating is much worse for the environment. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #86
Boats are definitely better for cargo than they are for people for energy efficiency. Silent3 Jan 2013 #91
All ships have crews that need all of that (well, room service???!!!) tama Jan 2013 #99
And for every one member of the crew... Silent3 Jan 2013 #131
Interesting yes tama Jan 2013 #136
Crossing and cruising are two very different trips. MindPilot Jan 2013 #104
A boat would not be economical. I also can't afford the time off of work to make the roundtrip. Glassunion Jan 2013 #94
Maybe you can fly over with your gilded angel wings? zappaman Jan 2013 #79
+infinity alphafemale Jan 2013 #145
And how do I get back to Hawai'i? KamaAina Jan 2013 #96
Take the tunnel. Glassunion Jan 2013 #98
Broom donheld Jan 2013 #160
One thing they found in the week after 9/11 Warpy Jan 2013 #80
And don't have children. And don't eat meat or cheese. And stop using the Internet geek tragedy Jan 2013 #81
Well said! zappaman Jan 2013 #82
If you use a refrigerator or a washing machine, you're like Hitler. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #84
heh RobertEarl Jan 2013 #93
Electricity and houses and meat didn't exist 100 years ago? geek tragedy Jan 2013 #97
Who said houses and meat didn't exist? Only you, geek RobertEarl Jan 2013 #117
Well, sure the rest of the planet would be better off if 4 billion people geek tragedy Jan 2013 #121
See? There is our difference RobertEarl Jan 2013 #127
"It really Is. That. Simple." zappaman Jan 2013 #128
No. Its ecologically minded RobertEarl Jan 2013 #133
Self hating humans tama Jan 2013 #141
No. I did my part by not procreating. I'm flying. n/t MadrasT Jan 2013 #85
Wrong, wrong, wrong. mn9driver Jan 2013 #87
Facts are good... SidDithers Jan 2013 #101
Wow. 378 pounds of co2! RobertEarl Jan 2013 #105
Aviation is 2% of world carbon emissions. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #109
... zappaman Jan 2013 #110
Check this tama Jan 2013 #115
But check this: geek tragedy Jan 2013 #118
Easy solution: tama Jan 2013 #129
Aviation 2% and computers 2%? RobertEarl Jan 2013 #123
Looked and found this: tama Jan 2013 #112
But did you read this part? geek tragedy Jan 2013 #116
Yep, see my reply to your post ;) tama Jan 2013 #124
I flew recently Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #120
Don't worry RobertEarl Jan 2013 #130
Your Prius will blow nearly 500 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere, making the same trip. mn9driver Jan 2013 #132
See Tama's post RobertEarl Jan 2013 #135
I have family overseas so I have to sometimes gollygee Jan 2013 #100
But I cannot drink gin and tonics, non-stop, to JFK. DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #111
I last flew in 1998 IDemo Jan 2013 #114
I'm amazed at moparlunatic Jan 2013 #119
you think only Republicans fly on airplanes? nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #122
Yes. name not needed Jan 2013 #142
I believe those are bears you are thinking of Godhumor Jan 2013 #146
If true progressives tama Jan 2013 #154
"LOL" is such a cliche. But this is a rare occasion when I actually did (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #159
it's fine for me. I don't have to travel much BainsBane Jan 2013 #139
Sixteen reccs out of 140 comments pscot Jan 2013 #140
This is the most entertaining thread on DU in a long time Godhumor Jan 2013 #143
Eat Less Meat waterwatcher123 Jan 2013 #147
I think I will be more careful about when I fly now...... Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #149
Would that I could nt Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #151
Did you know the internet causes as many emissions as the entire airline industry? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #152
Without internet tama Jan 2013 #155
Did you know... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #158
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