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patrice

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10. Just because language can be deconstructed, that does NOT mean that terrorist = freedom fighter, no
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013

matter how any given individual(s) may hold that semantic position, they are NOT NECESSARILY correct/valid empirically in the consequences of that position for others, nor for themselves.

Phenomena are whatever they are, no matter how valid or invalid our references to them are. This is why terrorist = freedom fighter, and, yes, even terrorist =/= freedom fighter, isn't/aren't absolutely valid and the differences in those sets of conditions in a given circumstance is not something that we can ignore when it comes to the ultimate violence made possible by guns, because whatever happens especially with guns, one way or another, affects ALL of us by the nature of the means, the violence, by which whatever ends are brought about. That is, those gun-effects violate my/our rights to CHOOSE what happens to us, whether we are shot or not, and, no matter how gun-effects turn out from anyone else's perspective, that violation of my/our choice negates freedoms in other systemic levels.

For example, a child cannot walk down a hall in a school without the specter of an armed guard and ALL that implies hovering forever in her memory, whether the guard ever has to do anything or not, AND THAT FACT HAS NOT-INCONSEQUENTIAL PHYSICAL EFFECTS FOREVER AFTERWARD.

behold, our domestic terrorists: [View all] phantom power Jan 2013 OP
If you start from the fact that the military industrial complex and arms manufacturers want Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #1
+1!!! = it's circular, so now, HOW (???) to keep from playing THEIR game. nt patrice Jan 2013 #4
Don't feed the trolls = encroaching police state. Feed the trolls = quickly encroaching police state Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #5
Take their money. nt rrneck Jan 2013 #17
Goodness knows they've taken enough real value from all of us without paying for it & for whatever patrice Jan 2013 #18
It justifies taxes. rrneck Jan 2013 #23
Holy shit! Share what you are smoking! rustydog Jan 2013 #2
Now we know where to start looking if something like that happens. MineralMan Jan 2013 #3
True, Sir: If Such People Lived In the World They Imagine They Live In, They Would Be Dead In Swamps The Magistrate Jan 2013 #6
"if they attempt to cross Constitutional boundaries and natural rights"... jmg257 Jan 2013 #7
They will strike when Frito Lay stops making Cheetos. MineralMan Jan 2013 #8
Love it! rustydog Jan 2013 #9
Just because language can be deconstructed, that does NOT mean that terrorist = freedom fighter, no patrice Jan 2013 #10
IOW, just saying shit doesn't make it so. What IS so, is so and it would be helpful to everyone patrice Jan 2013 #12
I'll be on the side of the US military when they put these lunatics down... Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #11
I can't say that's entirely an invalid position, given the NRA's PROMOTION of armed conflicts abroad patrice Jan 2013 #13
+ the fact that we are currently the POLICEMEN to the WORLD & that ALSO is what the NRA wants. nt patrice Jan 2013 #14
Suspend Posse Comitatus for your preffered ideology. Sweet. galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #16
Not ideology. Actions. Including expressed intent to kill for guns. nt patrice Jan 2013 #19
& Why isn't it apparent that what you just said works both ways. Just because someone claims to patrice Jan 2013 #20
Did I give anyone permission to engage in violent "Posse Comitatus" for me? NO, ergo it's PRIVILEGE. patrice Jan 2013 #21
that is, PRIVILEGE CREATED BY GUNS. nt patrice Jan 2013 #26
Posse Comitatus is a pipe dream... jmg257 Jan 2013 #24
"preferred ideology"? You appear to be one of those persons who claims PREFERENCE patrice Jan 2013 #25
If he posted this same stuff wit a few "Allah"s and Jihad's built in n2doc Jan 2013 #15
Ask and it shall be so...(edited for the NSA) sanatanadharma Jan 2013 #22
now, if someone could put that on their website.. n2doc Jan 2013 #27
Bob Owens seams to have forgotten something......... wandy Jan 2013 #28
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