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Jeff In Milwaukee

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10. Dumbest. Post. Ever.

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:02 AM

Jan 2013

This is so fucking misguided I'm not really sure where to begin. Will a suicidal person not commit suicide if they don't have a loaded revolver in their hand? Probably not. Because EVERY OTHER METHOD is far less lethal and takes more time -- and at any point (say, while the person is taking the time to fashion a noose) they might decide to stick it out.

Here's a little fact to chew on, genius. Women are more than twice as likely than men to ATTEMPT suicide, but the rates for actual suicides is four times higher in men than in women. Know why? Come on. I'm sure you're a bright little fellow and know that answer already.

It's because men use FIREARMS as their primary method of choice and women use drug overdoses.

Any other gems of wisdom you'd care to share with the group?

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Gun Deaths Since Newtown [View all] Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 OP

Yep. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #1

What set me off.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #2

One case? All of these have happened so far in 2013. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #8

I'll bet they are all up on the graphic in the OP along with pellet gun accidents and suicides n/t Taitertots Jan 2013 #14

/Looks at your list jeff47 Jan 2013 #25

And many of these were not life-threatening... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #45

So 5 bad guys shot dead while 900+ innocents shot in same time period. mbperrin Jan 2013 #31

Do you really think violent criminals will voluntarily hand in their guns? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #41

Asked and Answered. See Post #7 Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #46

So far, you haven't answered it. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #61

Uh....the laws DO effect criminals. Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #62

Cause only criminals have guns. mikeysnot Jan 2013 #82

They don't have to. They use them. jeff47 Jan 2013 #48

Full-auto aren't that useful to criminals. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #63

That's nice. But here in reality jeff47 Jan 2013 #75

Most of those shot were themselves criminals. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #66

Two cities do not a study make. Or let's reframe. mbperrin Jan 2013 #79

Didn't read the article, did you? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #80

I did read it, and it said just what I thought it said. mbperrin Jan 2013 #86

How mature of you rl6214 Jan 2013 #3

Posted on the wrong line. freshwest Jan 2013 #83

It was 812 just a few days ago! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #4

This is a stunningly and powerfully non-gory graphic. I vote for posting it every day. libdem4life Jan 2013 #5

Go the the source....Post in on all Social Media (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #6

I think Slate did it better (link here) Electric Monk Jan 2013 #12

This is very good (and updated constantly) Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #16

And that map is off. SheilaT Jan 2013 #32

"How many gun deaths are acceptable? " holdencaufield Jan 2013 #33

Oh, I get it. Automobiles are designed only to kill people. SheilaT Jan 2013 #34

Are guns designed to only kill people? holdencaufield Jan 2013 #35

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #36

Let's lay this idiotic talking point to rest... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #47

Let's save some time ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #49

Good luck with Middle School... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #52

"There's no such thing as an absolute right." holdencaufield Jan 2013 #55

Fair enough... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #58

Correct -- about voting holdencaufield Jan 2013 #60

Not really... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #64

If you point out the many differences, why the comparison in first place? LanternWaste Jan 2013 #73

How many automobile deaths are caused by intentional means?How many by mass attacks? morningfog Jan 2013 #54

Why do you blame the law-abiding for the actions of criminals? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #69

Should be pinned. I thought I'd never get to the bottom of that graphic. freshwest Jan 2013 #84

How many were killed by criminals? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #7

Dumbest. Post. Ever. Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #10

Having a gun in your home makes it far more likely you will die. Period. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #27

Actually not ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #37

Link(s)? nt SunSeeker Jan 2013 #39

It feels like Oleg paying us yet another visit. Just sayin'. nt Electric Monk Jan 2013 #40

Who's Oleg? N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #65

Living with, or being a violent criminal is very dangerous. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #42

Adam Lanza was a "law-abiding citizen" before he blew the heads off 20 kids. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #53

You may wish to rethink your statement. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #67

Oh please. You OWNING guns makes you a target for criminals. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #68

The criminals doesn't know if I have guns or not. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #70

Having a gun around makes otherwise treatable depression far more fatal. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #71

That is a chance for myself that I choose to accept. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #72

No one is trying to control your life, unless guns are your life. nt SunSeeker Jan 2013 #74

"Because EVERY OTHER METHOD is far less lethal" EX500rider Jan 2013 #77

Yes. Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #78

Very bad arguments jeff47 Jan 2013 #21

"They use them. Then the gun is seized and destroyed..." holdencaufield Jan 2013 #38

This isn't the first time we have done this kind of thing. jeff47 Jan 2013 #44

Newtown...not Newton CatFelyne Jan 2013 #9

You could drop the number of gun homicides by a huge precentage. Glassunion Jan 2013 #11

Quite True Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #13

According to the FBI about 80% of crime is attributed to gang violence. Glassunion Jan 2013 #15

I don't doubt it. Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #17

I'm a little radical in my views on drugs. Glassunion Jan 2013 #19

If your goal is making drugs (or anything else) unattractive to the young ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #51

Many are suicides. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #18

See Post #7 Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #20

Their body. Their choice. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #23

The majority of the people who attempt suicide have second thoughts jeff47 Jan 2013 #26

Yes, but having a gun around makes otherwise treatable depression far more fatal. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #28

Kick! n/t Tx4obama Jan 2013 #22

Shot and killed with a pellet gun? Recursion Jan 2013 #24

You could put an eye out! holdencaufield Jan 2013 #29

I believe it laundry_queen Jan 2013 #30

When I was a kid I had a friend almost die from a BB in the brain. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #76

Add four more in Atlanta area yesterday. Nt Phentex Jan 2013 #43

A visual that all should see. kentuck Jan 2013 #50

They say Dpm12 Jan 2013 #56

These are "statistically insignificant" to the gun culture Doctor_J Jan 2013 #57

Actually... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #59

I like that Martin Bashier is doing a countdown sad-cafe Jan 2013 #81

It should be updated daily Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #85

very good idea sad-cafe Jan 2013 #87