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In reply to the discussion: The FBI, ATF and LEO were blameless in Waco and Ruby Ridge [View all]Tom Ripley
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The Marshalls claimed that, Weaver claimed the opposite. The jury believed Weaver
Recursion
Jan 2013
#6
I doubt anyone could vouch for weaver's character, and Spencer couldn't put that racist POS on stand
Hoyt
Jan 2013
#52
If weaver hadn't sold illegal guns in hopes of racist ayran nation using them against innocents,
Hoyt
Jan 2013
#28
If we had gerry spence and an army of racist/gun lawyers behind us, we could get off from anything.
Hoyt
Jan 2013
#39
If people want to live as extremists, then they should expect to die as extremists...
Comrade_McKenzie
Jan 2013
#7
Look at these photos. This is America. Men, woman and children. There was no trial
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#15
Are you OK with tanks running through American citizens homes before they even get a trial?
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#47
So do you believe it's OK for LEO to run tanks through American citizens homes
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#62
I'm not defending him. I'm not saying he was innocent or guilty. And you can't either.
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#98
At Ruby Ridge alone, 12 FBI agents were disciplined for misconduct
ProgressiveProfessor
Jan 2013
#20
No, they didn't have every right to. That's why they were disciplined and the Weavers got $4 million
Recursion
Jan 2013
#23
Absolutely you are correct! These very things are the kind of things that make people afraid of
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#48
Hanging with ayran nation racists, and raping women dang sure is. And neither was "raided"
Hoyt
Jan 2013
#42
I guess you forgot the part where ATF showed up in cattle cars without a warrant...
beevul
Jan 2013
#57
Sure, because shooting a young boy in the back is always a just and reasonable thing to do.
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#89
If the racist gun nut - weaver - had acted responsibily, Horiuchi would not be hated by gun culture.
Hoyt
Jan 2013
#43
agree with Waco. And it was the masses inside that were the problem, not Koresh himself
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#51
If that's true, one could hypothesize that Reno's concerns about child abuse might have been
patrice
Jan 2013
#58
looking back in retrospect Hillary's saying rightwing conspiracy was 100% true in all of this
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#87
Though I have not thought of all of that this way, it makes sense. I will think about it some more.
patrice
Jan 2013
#93
They didn't have it coming. & FBI/ATF/LEO are not blameless. Without more specific
patrice
Jan 2013
#56
Didn't the government have to give millions to the Weavers because the courts...
Taitertots
Jan 2013
#60
I guess, re: Waco, Reno had never heard of a "siege"? Not to mention that DK went jogging each a.m.
WinkyDink
Jan 2013
#61
Shooting a child in the back? Burning small children to death? Good treatment?
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#90
What I want to know is why so many pro-gunners seem to be experts on Ruby Ridge.
DanTex
Jan 2013
#66