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SayWut

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31. I guess there's no easy way or 'one pill to cure all ills' solution.

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:57 PM

Jan 2013

Just the same... at the very least, would you object to reporting of persons who are deemed or diagnosed
as a potential threat to the safety of others?

"If this will be a public record who knows who will end up with access to that information".

Safeguards and barriers need to be put in place to prevent that, and if misused or wrongfully accessed, heavy fines and penalties imposed.

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NYS Gun Law includes requirements for Mental Health Professionals to report patients [View all] madinmaryland Jan 2013 OP

I thought the language was if they make threats... bettyellen Jan 2013 #1

The concern is that if MH Professionals are required to break their doctor-patient madinmaryland Jan 2013 #3

This could be incredibly problematic Still Sensible Jan 2013 #52

Not really. This may be a problem with clinic policies, but HIPPA allows it HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #55

I don't have the answers but it seems to me Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #2

I agree with you. I think the suicide issue should not be reported and they madinmaryland Jan 2013 #4

Valley pair face gun charges linked to N.Y. subway shooting PADemD Jan 2013 #11

That is homicide not suicide. I am down with the homicide part. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #15

Didn't Adam Lanza commit both? PADemD Jan 2013 #19

Perhaps he did. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #23

They might have stopped James Holmes. denverbill Jan 2013 #5

Possibly it could have. We don't know what either of those persons told their MH Professional madinmaryland Jan 2013 #7

And Holmes' psychiatrist is now getting sued. Why would any therapist take a suicidal patient then? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #41

That law is not in place and the psychiatrist is getting sued. How does this law change that? denverbill Jan 2013 #59

Psychiatry and psychology aren't precise sciences. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #64

Mental health issues must be addressed - lynne Jan 2013 #6

I am very uncomfortable with that provision etherealtruth Jan 2013 #8

That is my concern. madinmaryland Jan 2013 #9

Why would anyone seek treatment if they would be entered into a government data base etherealtruth Jan 2013 #12

Agreed NickB79 Jan 2013 #33

How is this any different from Dr's. being required to report certain medical conditions to the RMV? SayWut Jan 2013 #14

Reportable diseases present with verifiable diagnostic testing etherealtruth Jan 2013 #17

Yet, they can still be required to report the condition to the proper agency. SayWut Jan 2013 #25

I don't want anyone to have the ability to have their finger on the trigger of a gun etherealtruth Jan 2013 #38

Please, don't let emotions get in the way of reality. SayWut Jan 2013 #46

It isn't people "in their right mind" who are the problem! marybourg Jan 2013 #26

I don't think so ecstatic Jan 2013 #60

They were already required to commit people nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #10

Not in my state pipoman Jan 2013 #27

That is true here as well. In fact, any two citizens Skidmore Jan 2013 #29

Isn't that what they go to school for? SayWut Jan 2013 #13

You don't give up stuff for a ton of people on the off chance it might Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #16

Then what's the solution to keeping firearms out of the hands of people who shouldn't own them? SayWut Jan 2013 #18

As I said above Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #20

I guess there's no easy way or 'one pill to cure all ills' solution. SayWut Jan 2013 #31

I have no problem with the homicide part at all. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #34

Which is why folks are upset over the prospect of giving up their guns The Straight Story Jan 2013 #21

so if you self report your get on a list that could follow you forever dembotoz Jan 2013 #22

If this could save just one life... Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #24

We could lock up everybody who had any sign of any slight mental illness or emotional disturbance customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #40

And Holmes' psychiatrist is now getting sued. Why would any therapist take a suicidal patient then? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #43

OK, listen to the crazy dude here, people. Denninmi Jan 2013 #28

Involuntary commitment pipoman Jan 2013 #30

If we had a way to "gain involuntary civil commitment for authorities or loved ones" ... Denninmi Jan 2013 #32

Yeah, you're right..meant by..I'm ok with it as written now that I think of it... pipoman Jan 2013 #37

Yuppers, they think I'm crazy .... Denninmi Jan 2013 #39

Sounds like a bad idea. DanTex Jan 2013 #35

HIPPA specifically allows for reporting when there is a threat to self or others HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #42

Are you saying this is not a big deal? DanTex Jan 2013 #44

I think this is not THE BIG THING I fear. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #48

OK. Good answer. DanTex Jan 2013 #49

This corresponds with my experience in the non-military world. Just a referral or professional libdem4life Jan 2013 #56

I havent' seen the whole NY law yet, but this part of it seems HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #58

Great points. If they could guarantee that it would only ecstatic Jan 2013 #61

Yes, it's a concern. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #63

The person will probably make threats or act in threatening manner HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #36

Three days at most, unless it's a prison situation And mental health care, where is the funding for libdem4life Jan 2013 #50

Good question, I was involuntarily detained and that detention was ruled unfounded HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #51

This seems kind of a slippery area to me. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #45

It's always been this way...just not practical as at worst they go in for 3 days and are then back libdem4life Jan 2013 #47

Is there a framework for this plan in our military mental health system? Sunlei Jan 2013 #53

If they use the VA for health services, this sort of thing is already in place. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #54

No one says that, even in your post rustydog Jan 2013 #57

My understanding that persons with command delusions get treatment at higher rates HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #62