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madinmaryland

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4. I agree with you. I think the suicide issue should not be reported and they

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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:58 PM

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should not end up in some database. It really opens up a can of worms.

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NYS Gun Law includes requirements for Mental Health Professionals to report patients [View all] madinmaryland Jan 2013 OP

I thought the language was if they make threats... bettyellen Jan 2013 #1

The concern is that if MH Professionals are required to break their doctor-patient madinmaryland Jan 2013 #3

This could be incredibly problematic Still Sensible Jan 2013 #52

Not really. This may be a problem with clinic policies, but HIPPA allows it HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #55

I don't have the answers but it seems to me Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #2

I agree with you. I think the suicide issue should not be reported and they madinmaryland Jan 2013 #4

Valley pair face gun charges linked to N.Y. subway shooting PADemD Jan 2013 #11

That is homicide not suicide. I am down with the homicide part. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #15

Didn't Adam Lanza commit both? PADemD Jan 2013 #19

Perhaps he did. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #23

They might have stopped James Holmes. denverbill Jan 2013 #5

Possibly it could have. We don't know what either of those persons told their MH Professional madinmaryland Jan 2013 #7

And Holmes' psychiatrist is now getting sued. Why would any therapist take a suicidal patient then? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #41

That law is not in place and the psychiatrist is getting sued. How does this law change that? denverbill Jan 2013 #59

Psychiatry and psychology aren't precise sciences. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #64

Mental health issues must be addressed - lynne Jan 2013 #6

I am very uncomfortable with that provision etherealtruth Jan 2013 #8

That is my concern. madinmaryland Jan 2013 #9

Why would anyone seek treatment if they would be entered into a government data base etherealtruth Jan 2013 #12

Agreed NickB79 Jan 2013 #33

How is this any different from Dr's. being required to report certain medical conditions to the RMV? SayWut Jan 2013 #14

Reportable diseases present with verifiable diagnostic testing etherealtruth Jan 2013 #17

Yet, they can still be required to report the condition to the proper agency. SayWut Jan 2013 #25

I don't want anyone to have the ability to have their finger on the trigger of a gun etherealtruth Jan 2013 #38

Please, don't let emotions get in the way of reality. SayWut Jan 2013 #46

It isn't people "in their right mind" who are the problem! marybourg Jan 2013 #26

I don't think so ecstatic Jan 2013 #60

They were already required to commit people nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #10

Not in my state pipoman Jan 2013 #27

That is true here as well. In fact, any two citizens Skidmore Jan 2013 #29

Isn't that what they go to school for? SayWut Jan 2013 #13

You don't give up stuff for a ton of people on the off chance it might Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #16

Then what's the solution to keeping firearms out of the hands of people who shouldn't own them? SayWut Jan 2013 #18

As I said above Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #20

I guess there's no easy way or 'one pill to cure all ills' solution. SayWut Jan 2013 #31

I have no problem with the homicide part at all. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #34

Which is why folks are upset over the prospect of giving up their guns The Straight Story Jan 2013 #21

so if you self report your get on a list that could follow you forever dembotoz Jan 2013 #22

If this could save just one life... Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #24

We could lock up everybody who had any sign of any slight mental illness or emotional disturbance customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #40

And Holmes' psychiatrist is now getting sued. Why would any therapist take a suicidal patient then? riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #43

OK, listen to the crazy dude here, people. Denninmi Jan 2013 #28

Involuntary commitment pipoman Jan 2013 #30

If we had a way to "gain involuntary civil commitment for authorities or loved ones" ... Denninmi Jan 2013 #32

Yeah, you're right..meant by..I'm ok with it as written now that I think of it... pipoman Jan 2013 #37

Yuppers, they think I'm crazy .... Denninmi Jan 2013 #39

Sounds like a bad idea. DanTex Jan 2013 #35

HIPPA specifically allows for reporting when there is a threat to self or others HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #42

Are you saying this is not a big deal? DanTex Jan 2013 #44

I think this is not THE BIG THING I fear. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #48

OK. Good answer. DanTex Jan 2013 #49

This corresponds with my experience in the non-military world. Just a referral or professional libdem4life Jan 2013 #56

I havent' seen the whole NY law yet, but this part of it seems HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #58

Great points. If they could guarantee that it would only ecstatic Jan 2013 #61

Yes, it's a concern. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #63

The person will probably make threats or act in threatening manner HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #36

Three days at most, unless it's a prison situation And mental health care, where is the funding for libdem4life Jan 2013 #50

Good question, I was involuntarily detained and that detention was ruled unfounded HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #51

This seems kind of a slippery area to me. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #45

It's always been this way...just not practical as at worst they go in for 3 days and are then back libdem4life Jan 2013 #47

Is there a framework for this plan in our military mental health system? Sunlei Jan 2013 #53

If they use the VA for health services, this sort of thing is already in place. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #54

No one says that, even in your post rustydog Jan 2013 #57

My understanding that persons with command delusions get treatment at higher rates HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #62