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flamin lib

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11. I would like a bit more data, for instance

Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:42 PM

Jan 2013

does the definition include collateral damage from drive-bys? Or non-intentional homicide as in "missed the intended and hit the victim standing next to the target"?

Beyond that I think accidental shootings and many suicides should be of equal concern to intentional homicide.

I guess what I'm concerned about is this being another "hammers kill more than guns" when the comparison is actually between all blunt trauma and rifles, a small subset of all guns.

I don't know and I'm not casting aspersion on the OP but I'm suspect of statistics that narrow definitions in what appears to be an effort to tell the truth attractively.

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Intentional homicide rate vs gun posession [View all] redgreenandblue Jan 2013 OP

Uh Oh... You're going to catch hell. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1

& what about accidents? nt patrice Jan 2013 #3

Good point. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #10

They should be in a separate graph. redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #14

harsher penalties for crimes using firearms samsingh Jan 2013 #4

Don't we need a ratio of homicides_per_100K : guns_per_100 ? nt patrice Jan 2013 #2

In principle yes, but it could be instructive redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #6

Is it right to assume all homicides are the same, when, obviously, mass shootings are qualitatively patrice Jan 2013 #5

I'm not sure really. redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #7

I'm thinking in terms of the tactical issues associated with "control". When I see figures like this patrice Jan 2013 #9

There's a huge amount of noise. DanTex Jan 2013 #8

+++1! patrice Jan 2013 #12

You pick out a sub-set. I'll make the plot. redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #13

I would like a bit more data, for instance flamin lib Jan 2013 #11

I took the numbers from the wiki page. They were compiled by UNODC. redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #15

Speculation. Therin lies the issue. flamin lib Jan 2013 #16