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backwoodsbob

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4. I would say if we are going to be serious about gun violence

Reply to Kurska (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:23 PM

Jan 2013

a handgun ban is where we need to focus.
It would take some serious work but I believe it is possible.

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You either accept limits on the 2nd Amendment, or you do not accept any limits at all. [View all] Hugabear Jan 2013 OP

sorry... no logic allowed in gun arguments tk2kewl Jan 2013 #1

Reasonable limits, same as the first amendment. Supreme court ruled handgun bans were unreasonable. Kurska Jan 2013 #2

The OP says "restrict", not ban. maxsolomon Jan 2013 #3

He said "Restrict what types of weapons are available' and referenced handguns Kurska Jan 2013 #6

Advocate of effective gun control says "restrict" maxsolomon Jan 2013 #17

What do you call "Restricting the availability" of something n/t Kurska Jan 2013 #21

A restriction. maxsolomon Jan 2013 #22

Would you describe alcohol as being banned for those under 21? n/t Kurska Jan 2013 #25

Is logic banned for Delicate Flowers? bongbong Jan 2013 #27

I'm not familiar with that term. What exactly is a delicate flower? n/t Kurska Jan 2013 #33

Tom Tomorrow coined the term to describe the gun nuts. It has now been hijacked by people not ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #35

I don't get the joke n/t Kurska Jan 2013 #37

It's a gun owner who is super sensitive to percieved slights against their arsenals. maxsolomon Jan 2013 #40

oh, so it is name calling? Kurska Jan 2013 #42

I hate to say it, but if you're surprised that 20 dead children maxsolomon Jan 2013 #45

You know what it reminds me of? Kurska Jan 2013 #47

No, I would not: maxsolomon Jan 2013 #34

Did you support the Federal Assault Weapons Ban? Kurska Jan 2013 #36

I didn't give a shit about it. Because it's re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. maxsolomon Jan 2013 #38

Cleita and I came up with one idea to tackle that - a civilian armory derby378 Jan 2013 #39

Would gun owners be required by law to keep "Assault Weapons" there maxsolomon Jan 2013 #41

We disagree on whether participation should be mandatory derby378 Jan 2013 #43

You say a start, I'd like to hear what else you'd like. Kurska Jan 2013 #44

I would say if we are going to be serious about gun violence backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #4

Handgun bans are unconstitutional, read Heller. n/t Kurska Jan 2013 #8

"heller" is just one ruling on one day and can be overruled on any other day nt msongs Jan 2013 #14

Assuming you have a different Supreme Court. Bake Jan 2013 #18

The current wingut SCOTUS always ignores precedent bongbong Jan 2013 #28

I wouldn't say "always" Bake Jan 2013 #32

...and McDonald. bobclark86 Jan 2013 #23

The current wingut SCOTUS always ignores precedent bongbong Jan 2013 #29

Slight correction: billh58 Jan 2013 #31

I never said anything about a complete ban Hugabear Jan 2013 #9

It could be possible, it could also be unconstitutional the courts would no doubt rule on it. Kurska Jan 2013 #11

Of course that's constitutional; Heller was very clear about that Recursion Jan 2013 #5

Except the NRA screams bloody murder at even the most mild of gun control suggestions Hugabear Jan 2013 #10

Of course they do; that's their job. That said, they are open to expanding NICS Recursion Jan 2013 #13

I've often wondered why Second Amendment absolutists don't demand their right* to carry on airplanes KamaAina Jan 2013 #7

Owners of private property are free to make their own rules, as long as it doesn't discriminate. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #12

Airports are frequently public property. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #26

Agreed. The 2ndAm doesn't prohibit all regulation. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #15

Of course we can restrict them. rrneck Jan 2013 #16

And ... the Government can regulate COMMERCE. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #19

If Blackwater is a person under citizens united One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #20

Quit asking the Delicate Flowers such hard questions bongbong Jan 2013 #30

Even Scalia thinks there are limits... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #24

Thank you Tsiyu Jan 2013 #46

We can also create laws that regulate COMMERCE. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #48