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hack89

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96. Look at the link - "Colt California Compliant Rifles"
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jan 2013

Under California law, the gun cannot be shorter then a certain length - this stock does not fully collapse to ensure that length is maintained.

That is not a flash suppressor - it is a muzzle compensator. It is designed to port gases in a specific direction to reduce recoil.

The "tool" used to release the magazine is the tip of a bullet - with a little practice it takes hardly any time at all. And with a $20 kit one can restore the gun to a standard magazine release when you move out of California.

http://www.calegalmags.com/-Standard-AR-15-Magazine-Release-Button-Magazine-Catch-Spring-Not-CA-Compliant_p_512.html

My point is it is a poorly written law that does nothing for public safety. Like the AWB being proposed in Congress.

Yeah, but quibble, quibble, quibble over the definition of "assault weapon". Scuba Jan 2013 #1
Really. How in the billh58 Jan 2013 #107
The fallacy of this particular argument hack89 Jan 2013 #2
You're ignoring the question ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #11
If the AWB had no impact on the sale of military style semi-automatic rifles hack89 Jan 2013 #13
The AWB did not significantly affect what could be bought. Period. dairydog91 Jan 2013 #22
are you saying we need a better ban? nt d_r Jan 2013 #101
but there were fewer sold and high capacity magazines were not being sold Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #25
Who says fewer were sold? hack89 Jan 2013 #29
Actually sales increased, and high capacity magazines were still sold Recursion Jan 2013 #31
near-assault-weapons were still bought and sold. krispos42 Jan 2013 #80
I did some checking... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #90
Look at the link - "Colt California Compliant Rifles" hack89 Jan 2013 #96
And speeding laws are poorly written... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #98
We are talking about the accuracy of the OP's graphs hack89 Jan 2013 #99
The fact that the number after the ban expired is more than twice what it was before the ban... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #3
Question- How many of those killings involved assault weapons? Were there more incidents or larger KittyWampus Jan 2013 #15
Or slower police response times Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #94
But... but... but... *the precious* doesn't kill people... 99Forever Jan 2013 #4
"The Precious." Kinda says it all. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #6
The majority of mass shootings are committed by handguns hack89 Jan 2013 #5
And yet the overall homicide rate is down nearly 50% krispos42 Jan 2013 #7
Down from when, my cherry-picking friend? And where? Robb Jan 2013 #8
All you did is highlight that a subsection of one age group shifted.You didn't refute anything. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #16
Actually, that it didn't. Robb Jan 2013 #28
Info on types of guns used in mass shootings. Interesting. Not wanting to argue with anyone KittyWampus Jan 2013 #33
This chart speaks volumes bighart Jan 2013 #108
Absolutely right... OneMoreDemocrat Jan 2013 #110
From the peak in about 1991 or so. krispos42 Jan 2013 #81
A reduction in violence of 3% over 30 years is "progress"? Robb Jan 2013 #82
No, you're misreading the numbers. I'm probably being unclear. krispos42 Jan 2013 #89
The murder/manslaughter rate in 1991 was 9.8 per 100,000. It is now 4.8 hack89 Jan 2013 #97
The Virginia Tech Shooting happened in 2007. LAGC Jan 2013 #9
How many rounds in each clip? if it was more than 6, they were "high capacity" jpak Jan 2013 #19
10 rounds. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #20
Cho used standard capacity magazines, IIRC 10 Recursion Jan 2013 #27
+1 Timbuk3 Jan 2013 #24
The Glock had a 15 round magazine ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #36
We could limit (even handgun) magazines to 6, but it only takes a split second to reload. LAGC Jan 2013 #38
Several points ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #42
How many shooters were actually stopped while reloading though? LAGC Jan 2013 #46
At least 3 in recent years - but possibly more ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #56
A misleading chart Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #93
Not at all ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #102
Some points adieu Jan 2013 #58
Feinstein's bill: LAGC Jan 2013 #63
agree with number 1 Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #64
I was referring to the adieu Jan 2013 #66
And like second-hand smoke, extended responsibility for children in the home. libdem4life Jan 2013 #79
Wow, you sound very proud of his accomplishment Dragonfli Jan 2013 #67
I would be interested in seeing another graph Separation Jan 2013 #10
Worst school mass killing in US history Timbuk3 Jan 2013 #26
I think this has some pretty good info. Separation Jan 2013 #12
looks like most of them Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #35
Awesome graphic...thanks for posting. Dryclean Jan 2013 #14
Yet, Lanza's exact weapon would have been purchasable under the AWB. dairydog91 Jan 2013 #17
How many shootings involved assault weapons? Were there more incidents or larger body counts? KittyWampus Jan 2013 #18
Take a look at this Separation Jan 2013 #21
This reaffirms my position that we need to address violence in general…not just guns KittyWampus Jan 2013 #23
I would like to see the ban on assault weapons reinstated. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #30
What will that do? Recursion Jan 2013 #32
It would limit the number of bullets that can be fired rapidly. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #34
No, it wouldn't. That's what we keep trying to tell you Recursion Jan 2013 #37
Simply changing the grip will not stop the killing. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #44
Yes, I know. This is why the Assault Weapons Ban is so infuriating Recursion Jan 2013 #49
I agree. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #51
thank you Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #52
Yeah, I'm leaning towards rescheduling as Class 3 under the NFA Recursion Jan 2013 #55
Then what WOULD be effective? NashvilleLefty Jan 2013 #75
As I said, banning semi-automatics with detachable magazines Recursion Jan 2013 #77
Can you tell which one of these were banned? One of these were banned, and one was legal. Separation Jan 2013 #39
No. I cannot. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #43
The larger image is the banned rifle. Separation Jan 2013 #47
You've made your point. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #53
By "Looking"? Without the specs, no. ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #59
If you assume they are both functional semi-automatics, you can tell by looking Recursion Jan 2013 #60
no it would not Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #40
Ok. So we've got to revamp the law. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #41
right Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #48
. . . In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #50
staying off topic Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #65
Unfortunately, the data doesn't lend itself to use of arithmetic mean HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #45
and yet, i've had people posting the exact opposite stats over the past few weeks samsingh Jan 2013 #54
"Shooting" in general has been dropping pretty steadily for 20 years Recursion Jan 2013 #62
why don't we call it gun deaths or injuries samsingh Jan 2013 #68
Gun deaths and injuries are going down Recursion Jan 2013 #69
that's because we aren't safer samsingh Jan 2013 #70
But we are. You are less likely to be murdered or die in an accident today Recursion Jan 2013 #71
do you feel safe about our schools and in movie theatres? samsingh Jan 2013 #73
I do. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #74
not more irrational than stockpiling weapons to fight the government in the event samsingh Jan 2013 #85
Sure...but that wasn't the question. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #88
Certainly more safe than 20 years ago Recursion Jan 2013 #78
Correction: gun injuries are not down. DanTex Jan 2013 #91
The AWB would not have prevented any of the gun violence we have seen madville Jan 2013 #57
The graph is misleading, the bans are more at fault for this graph than the weapon is madville Jan 2013 #61
"post hoc ergo propter hoc" Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #72
Why do you think it more than doubled from 1982-1994? nt rrneck Jan 2013 #76
Graphs and statistics fail at the most basic of the idea of the cost of weapon mayhem. libdem4life Jan 2013 #83
+++++standing ovation marions ghost Jan 2013 #84
Thank you. As is obvious, it's deeply personal. libdem4life Jan 2013 #86
Thanks for writing this... Agony Jan 2013 #87
Facts for our pro-NRA "pro gun progressives"* are like garlic to a vampire: but that chart is apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #92
So the fact that military style semi-automatic rifles were legal during the AWB is spin? hack89 Jan 2013 #100
Facts for our pro-NRA "pro gun progressives"* are like garlic to a vampire: but that chart is apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #104
I skipped over the fantasy portion of your posts. hack89 Jan 2013 #105
Ooohh...the poster still has problems with the reading portion of the reply(s). That's unfortunate. apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #109
I enjoy silly games as well as the next guy hack89 Jan 2013 #111
k&r... spanone Jan 2013 #95
stop confusing the gun lovers with facts.... bowens43 Jan 2013 #103
Prior to 1989 Go Vols Jan 2013 #106
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