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In reply to the discussion: Experts Fear Collapse of Global Civilisation [View all]CreekDog
(46,192 posts)210. don't go by them: they have posted that the Clean Air Act doesn't apply to the Bay Area
which is an outright lie, because it does apply.
and no, i'm not kidding, they've posted that on more than one occasion here, blaming the Bay Area for all their pollution problems.
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Too many people and too few resources...and that gap is increasing rapidly. nt.
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#1
This is where we learn, through our actions or inactions, whether the species is worthy of being
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#2
I'll leave that to those who will either live or die through its initiation or failure.
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#40
part of the reason those " simpler times" were easier on the planet is because we died younger.
BlancheSplanchnik
Jan 2013
#151
It has more to do with resource use in the West than with population explosion in the rest.
antigone382
Jan 2013
#154
no sorry if I was a little unclear. didn't mean that it's the fault of subsistence populations
BlancheSplanchnik
Jan 2013
#157
Exactly. First Nations consider water to be life, children to be sacred. These are good ideas
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#81
Huge maternal and infant mortality rate without OBs and C-sections.
Manifestor_of_Light
Jan 2013
#152
Stress is working 40-60 hours/week for a seat in the good house that exploits the rest of the world
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#171
Interestingly enough, foraging humans didn't experience high perinatal and infant mortality rates
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#162
Why is the belief that technology will always save you more rational than that of God saving you?
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#172
I am sick of the class that uses & directs enormous resources for their own profit posing as
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#25
Charles Windsor, if you prefer, is actually well-known as committed to environmental causes
Hekate
Jan 2013
#30
he makes a profit on his investments, too. funny he would care about such things, what with
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#32
Sorry, but I know someone in the field, and environmentalism is not psyops.
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#248
don't go by them: they have posted that the Clean Air Act doesn't apply to the Bay Area
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#210
It does matter, thank you very much, because it's part of the reason we're still in this mess,
AverageJoe90
Jan 2013
#101
Well, I'm sorry if I haven't been able to explain things to your satisfaction.
AverageJoe90
Jan 2013
#126
for someone who claims to believe in the dangers of global climate change, why do you...
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#213
Hey, I'll admit I'm not all that good at explaining myself, compared to some.....
AverageJoe90
Jan 2013
#188
Oh, are you trying to say alarmism increases denialism or some crap like that?
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#199
The people saying that we're playing with fire and likely to get burned aren't the problem
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#212
tens of millions of Bangladeshis displaced by minor increases in sea level isn't a bad thing to you?
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#219
if you think it's a big deal, stop arguing against people who think climate change is a big deal
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#224
the OP does not posit "inevitable collapse" but you are attempting to make a straw man of the OP
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#226
for someone who is living what was once an inland sea, you are pretty cavalier
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#209
Corporations such as Monsanto and BP, and the do-nothing Republicans will speed the process.
AdHocSolver
Jan 2013
#7
And of course all the gleeful investors. Willing to kill anything for a dollar.
raouldukelives
Jan 2013
#39
Your post reminds me of something said to me by a scientist friend of mine.
airplaneman
Jan 2013
#168
''The problems we face today cannot be solved by the minds that created them.'' – Albert Einstein
DeSwiss
Jan 2013
#8
Actually, we are ruining our soil with fossil-fuel-based fertilizers. For the moment, we produce
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#13
Years ago in NW Iowa the trees grew along the river banks on every farm and along the roads etc.
jwirr
Jan 2013
#43
Yes they started that after they drained their wells dry by getting rid of the trees. It is sad to
jwirr
Jan 2013
#180
As long as civilization is preserved, yes, probably not much more will happen biologically
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#107
And, TBH, any one of us Americans would be more likely to die in an auto accident in any given year,
AverageJoe90
Jan 2013
#108
Or perhaps we expect other intelligent life to mimic our own. Perhaps other intelligent life
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#218
Drought--massive widespread drought--in one or several of the world's breadbaskets--
truebluegreen
Jan 2013
#122
The 'preppers' can't manufacture ground water out of nothing. Or breathable air.
randome
Jan 2013
#47
The writing has been on the wall for a long time but most CHOOSE to ignore it
stultusporcos
Jan 2013
#34
They only control what we allow them to control. That's where the problem lies.
randome
Jan 2013
#50
I hear you. But a few well-placed laws forbidding those practices would solve it.
randome
Jan 2013
#144
I am not a prepper, survivalist or gun nutter, just a regular guy who likes to be prepared.
airplaneman
Jan 2013
#170
Don't worry, when every tree is cut down & every river is poisoned, we can eat money.
JaneyVee
Jan 2013
#38
You have to be fucking kidding me. Are you going to shoot climate change?
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2013
#68
Big picture ... mankind often does little 'till after a catastrophic event. My take is
RKP5637
Jan 2013
#78
Well at least all of our nuclear wastes are safely disposed of for tens of thousands of years
Tom Rinaldo
Jan 2013
#87
Revisiting The Limits to Growth: Could The Club of Rome Have Been Correct, After All?
FarCenter
Jan 2013
#95
Even if we last several million more years....we will still have been a blip on the radar.
NYC Liberal
Jan 2013
#115
True, but we aren't at all likely to go extinct in at least the next several thousand years or so...
AverageJoe90
Jan 2013
#119
I'm not good at science stuff so I just follow what the scientists are saying.
limpyhobbler
Jan 2013
#184
One cosmic instant by John a. Livingston a natural history of human arrogance
kimbutgar
Jan 2013
#147
Even if the world's superpowers could do anything about it, we know they wouldn't.
blkmusclmachine
Jan 2013
#165
Just add 87 years to everyone's age; even the majority of newborns won't live to 2100.
FarCenter
Jan 2013
#194
There are a large number of things that can bring us crashing down - globally.
GreenStormCloud
Jan 2013
#250