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cui bono

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29. Good point.

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:28 AM

Jan 2013

I keep hearing the argument that guns are different than cars because driving is a privilege and guns are a right provided to us in the constitution. But using the free speech example works even on those who insist that the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply only to a well organized militia.

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I believe the 2nd Amendment gives individuals the right to own guns [View all] arely staircase Jan 2013 OP

Obviously there is too much common sense Still Sensible Jan 2013 #1

I agree pipoman Jan 2013 #2

What is your point about the commerce clause? Wouldn't that be the very part of the arely staircase Jan 2013 #5

Background checks are required at gun shows pipoman Jan 2013 #11

Here is a link to a thread about this pipoman Jan 2013 #14

It is just the political will. The commerce clause thing is just an NRA talking point. DanTex Jan 2013 #17

The feds can't even get states to submit information to NICS pipoman Jan 2013 #22

Agree. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #3

well there are sales between individual citizens and then there are gun shows arely staircase Jan 2013 #10

That was my idea of the form. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #13

The problem is that reasonable goes out the window when people are terrified Taitertots Jan 2013 #4

People are terrified because the old definition of "reasonable" is leaving blood in the streets NoOneMan Jan 2013 #6

We live in the most peaceful era in all of human history Taitertots Jan 2013 #9

one mustn't be terrified to believe gun violence is too high in the US and that there is too easy arely staircase Jan 2013 #15

But we live in the most peaceful era in human history and firearms are more available than ever Taitertots Jan 2013 #18

i have proposed no such thing arely staircase Jan 2013 #7

Who was the victim when you bought the shotgun without a background check? Taitertots Jan 2013 #12

there was no victim arely staircase Jan 2013 #19

Anyone "in the business of selling firearms" must call the NICS for a background check... Taitertots Jan 2013 #21

a national registry isn't politically possible, currently arely staircase Jan 2013 #24

I don't understand your position Taitertots Jan 2013 #25

registry arely staircase Jan 2013 #30

You want a registry, but only if it is made in the most disingenuous way possible? Taitertots Jan 2013 #31

Why not shall issue fiream permits? Individual and unique id numbers. jmg257 Jan 2013 #26

I think you've just about pegged me, too. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #8

I believe the 2nd Amendment gives the people the right to "keep and bear arms" Creideiki Jan 2013 #16

then we differ in that regard arely staircase Jan 2013 #20

Actually.. pipoman Jan 2013 #23

Actually, secures the right, not "gives" the right...whatever that right is. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #27

Common sense not allowed here, you will now be told you have a small penis, are crazy, a PWG, etc. pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #28

Good point. cui bono Jan 2013 #29