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52. "and, yes, that would be worse."

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:24 AM

Jan 2013

So this political speech trumps a mother/father that just buried their kids? Wow...I hope you have the opportunity those families had to bury your child, just so you can make the case that you still defend this form of political speech.

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OMG: FOX - Men armed with assault rifles walk through Portland to 'educate' public [View all] Coyotl Jan 2013 OP

I can see two objectives which are about to clash for the Republican party. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #1

There are a lot of no gun areas today. Schools, for example!! Coyotl Jan 2013 #2

I'm referring to places of business. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #20

Depending on your state, you can tell Recursion Jan 2013 #29

It's a good idea. I doubt Florida will be one of those states. But it's a good idea. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #30

Florida prohibits concealed carry in these locations Recursion Jan 2013 #37

"place of nuisance" Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #108

Houses of ill repute Recursion Jan 2013 #110

Thank you so much for this info! Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #133

Dallas TX adieu Jan 2013 #121

Anybody comes into my veterinary hospital with a gun, they'd kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #154

Not in Utah! SunSeeker Jan 2013 #120

Utah is in a class of its own nt siligut Jan 2013 #164

Almost any public building is a gun free area (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #9

People with concealed permits don't take their guns there? Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #21

Generally not. Property owners override concealed carry, for the most part Recursion Jan 2013 #26

I'm coming to the dialogue late, but, I'll pick it up quickly. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #35

NO we don't Berserker Jan 2013 #41

Is an "assault rifle strapped to their back" a "concealed carry"? What's concealed about that? SharonAnn Jan 2013 #162

Depending on where you live.... ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #23

True Recursion Jan 2013 #28

One of my company's headquarters (in Houston) . . . MrModerate Jan 2013 #123

LOL! Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #134

There's a lot of guys who want to live in the wild west not a civilized society TeamPooka Jan 2013 #150

What if someone wanted to stand their ground and exercise 2nd Amendment remedies muntrv Jan 2013 #3

First they would have to attack you or otherwise ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #25

I think it's pretty reasonable to fear . . . MrModerate Jan 2013 #124

No, you would not find many. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #127

And I take it this doesn't meet the test . . . MrModerate Jan 2013 #163

He might, but doing so is not illegal. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #166

Sigh. Probably just as well . . . MrModerate Jan 2013 #167

How is walking around with an assault rifle octoberlib Jan 2013 #4

It teaches peoiple to immediately call 911. Coyotl Jan 2013 #5

And what if other armed citizens saw them and shot first nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #6

It seems like utter stupidity to me. Coyotl Jan 2013 #7

Police officer said 911 calls are for "real emergencies". pacalo Jan 2013 #8

Two people peacefully and trollishly exercising their rights is not, in fact, an emergency Recursion Jan 2013 #10

If the peace is disturbed, it's disturbing the peace. Robb Jan 2013 #11

It's astonishing how often that argument is used to suppress... Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #27

Hey, thanks for joining DU right after Newtown. Robb Jan 2013 #39

Bwah Recursion Jan 2013 #40

So Lurker Deluxe Jan 2013 #136

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service: Ptah Jan 2013 #138

The Portland Police Bureau, however, asks anyone who sees someone armed with guns to call 911. Coyotl Jan 2013 #12

Yeah. I've lived in East Mississippi and in DC Recursion Jan 2013 #17

If I saw two people walking the street with assault rifles Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #102

No one wants to see something like that in their neighborhood or other populated setting. pacalo Jan 2013 #15

Well, like I said in #17, I've lived in neighborhoods where that is and isn't true Recursion Jan 2013 #31

I wouldn't want to live anywhere in which it's a common thing to see. pacalo Jan 2013 #36

de gustibus non est disputandum Recursion Jan 2013 #38

To each his own. Exactly. pacalo Jan 2013 #44

if it was Black or Brown guys doing this the gun nuts defending this would be the first ones to JI7 Jan 2013 #55

Interesting thing. Remember that teabagger who was open carrying his rifle at protests? Recursion Jan 2013 #59

that was still a protests, but if a group of black or brown guys just started walking down the JI7 Jan 2013 #66

Yeah. California was fine and dandy with open carry until the BPP started doing it Recursion Jan 2013 #67

minorities are stopped when driving for no reason, look at Trayvon JI7 Jan 2013 #70

Bullshit theKed Jan 2013 #75

Here's an interview with him Recursion Jan 2013 #76

If I see two assholes walking around with assault rifles, I'm calling the cops and giving the Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #57

Screw that-- these needle-dick yahoos are playing with fire... VOX Jan 2013 #74

considering it was my kids preschool that got locked down and I got the call about men armed with boomer55 Jan 2013 #94

I think 911 is a pretty good call here. DanTex Jan 2013 #141

If I make a bad joke to a TSA dude at the airport, they lock me up Last Stand Jan 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author pacalo Jan 2013 #22

If they were African-Americans, it would have been a "real 911 emergency" jpak Jan 2013 #135

But a person can be non aggressive until they reach their target and then all hell will appleannie1 Jan 2013 #152

Exactly! No one knows another person's state of mind or purpose. pacalo Jan 2013 #161

The last time I saw anybody openly carrying nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #13

Ha, my battalion did that. Commercial flight and everything. Recursion Jan 2013 #18

I am Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #16

"We are not threatening anyone." Geodude Jan 2013 #19

Whom are they threatening, and with what? Recursion Jan 2013 #24

What if they were exercising their 2nd Amendment Right in Newtown, CT? Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #42

They're big enough assholes for doing this in Portland Recursion Jan 2013 #45

"and, yes, that would be worse." Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #52

Well, I hope you never have to bury a child, personally Recursion Jan 2013 #54

I could give a shit about WBC Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #60

It's two cases of distasteful political speech Recursion Jan 2013 #62

reread my comment...please answer honestly. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #64

Oh, I have no idea what my attitude would be Recursion Jan 2013 #65

Really? Seriously? Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #72

How I would feel and think Recursion Jan 2013 #99

So you'd be OK with someone gunning down your kids. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #109

Given that that's the opposite of what I said, no Recursion Jan 2013 #111

Lets assume CT had open carry. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #114

Well, CT not having open carry certainly didn't seem to help Recursion Jan 2013 #116

That is false. Alisi Jan 2013 #148

How is anyone supposed to know those weapons are NOT kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #155

That's the current law. Sounds like their education succeeded Recursion Jan 2013 #156

There's no "probably" about it. It's shouting FIRE in a crowded theater at the least, and providing kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #159

And if someone else feels threatened enough to open fire on those two? SheilaT Jan 2013 #32

Who would feel threatened by an openly carried, shoulder-slung, unloaded rifle? (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #46

People who don't carry weapons. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #50

They're trolls. Calling the police is feeding them. Recursion Jan 2013 #51

I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up in rural Maine. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #58

East Mississippi, in a small town Recursion Jan 2013 #68

Was everyone in your town carrying? Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #80

No, not remotely Recursion Jan 2013 #83

Yeah, coyotes and snakes are big problems in high-density human population zones. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #100

You asked Recursion Jan 2013 #103

Until it does hurt somebodies. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #115

And if they didn't call the cops? theKed Jan 2013 #77

Convince Oregon to change its laws Recursion Jan 2013 #78

Because it's fearmongering theKed Jan 2013 #82

Because I didn't see anything wrong with letting them "get what they want" Recursion Jan 2013 #84

Right. Cause then they'd be theKed Jan 2013 #86

Most sane people. morningfog Jan 2013 #79

Or, perhaps, fellow gun educators. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #105

Isn't that state Vermont? (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #106

How would we know it was "unloaded?"...nt KansDem Jan 2013 #126

Good question. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #128

Anyone who has more common sense then a rock. bowens43 Jan 2013 #131

Yes, it will...probably in Florida. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #47

Gungeon thread on this asshat from last August: ellisonz Jan 2013 #33

wow uponit7771 Jan 2013 #34

Educate, my ass. defacto7 Jan 2013 #43

All hail armed men of learning/attention whores BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #48

I have Berserker Jan 2013 #49

They may as well be terrorists... kentuck Jan 2013 #53

The whole lack of attacking people comes to mind (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #56

so we wait until they shoot someone ? JI7 Jan 2013 #63

Don't be silly.... Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #69

Somebody making no effort to conceal his weapon argues to me he's not trying to kill me with it Recursion Jan 2013 #71

Yeah, go argue with them that they're exhibiting RWNJ paranoid behavior Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #88

Which question? I thought I had answered all the ones you asked, sorry. (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #89

No problem - post 72 Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #97

So people only become afraid theKed Jan 2013 #81

For me it would be some time before that Recursion Jan 2013 #85

So you agree it is terrorism, then? theKed Jan 2013 #90

No Recursion Jan 2013 #93

I disagree theKed Jan 2013 #95

Oh, I'm pretty sure that they do. Crunchy Frog Jan 2013 #118

Considering Portland's December shooting at the Clakamas mall MerryBlooms Jan 2013 #130

You have no idea if the gun is loaded.... Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #91

An AR? Sure I do. I can tell immediately Recursion Jan 2013 #96

But a pair of 22 YOs, you trust. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #107

I wonder why anyone would be threatened by them carrying weapons? neverforget Jan 2013 #61

Because we have a mass killing every week in the USA lately! D'oh!! Coyotl Jan 2013 #145

A civilized, moral, ethical society would prohibit citizens from carrying assault weapons. TheProgressive Jan 2013 #73

Idiots ISO Chuck Norris. lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #87

Reminds me of the time the American Nazi party marched thru marybourg Jan 2013 #92

Normal people don't walk around with assault type weapons... Historic NY Jan 2013 #98

Plenty of guns in Somalia, too! Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #112

earlier thread, not FOX grasswire Jan 2013 #101

How many were killed? hughee99 Jan 2013 #104

Well, count me as "educated" now. agentS Jan 2013 #113

I think they educated people about how loose the laws are. Deep13 Jan 2013 #117

This is just sad on so many levels. go west young man Jan 2013 #119

Hey, gun-asses: Thanks for letting criminals know... Beartracks Jan 2013 #122

Criminals are not allowed to own guns, ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #129

Well that's a relief.... Alisi Jan 2013 #149

good thing you think criminals won't do anything against the law. #deludedbutlovingit TeamPooka Jan 2013 #151

Knowing who they are and ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #158

LOFL!!! Please put the sarcasm tag at the end just to make sure uponit7771 Jan 2013 #169

Yes! Let's make all American towns like Fallijah! How delightful. Kablooie Jan 2013 #125

This would have been perfectly normal in my neighborhood. loose wheel Jan 2013 #132

WHen are these nutjobs going to be declared "bad guys"? Evasporque Jan 2013 #137

When they break a law Recursion Jan 2013 #139

Good Plan, Dumbasses... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #140

SMH Mr Dixon Jan 2013 #142

This Was A Rank Display Of Public Intimidation, Nothing More, Nothing Less. Paladin Jan 2013 #143

Between this and the CEO who threatened to start killing people, wildeyed Jan 2013 #144

At some point, one of these hyperaggressive gun worshippers is going to Skidmore Jan 2013 #146

If I see a couple of young guys walking down my neighborhood MineralMan Jan 2013 #147

In the US in 2013 these buffoons think people should just walk up to somebody with kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #153

I can't wait for Fox's reaction when armed Muslims walk outside their office to teach them malaise Jan 2013 #157

Aside from the obvious billh58 Jan 2013 #160

Oh they're educating people all right. gulliver Jan 2013 #165

Scaring the shit out of people =/= educating them. Initech Jan 2013 #168