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msanthrope

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20. Well, I think it's disengeous to post a link suggesting this is a 'new' shooting. In typical Colmes

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:46 PM

Jan 2013

idiocy--and I do think that the Alan Colmes is an idiot--he's missed the ball on why this shooting deserves a second look, however:

The two people involved in the shooting were suing the local sherriff for revoking her gun permit. This was a pretty serious lawsuit, and although it eventually got tossed, the town and the LEOs involved had to pay legal fees and spend time dealing with it. This woman ran a daycare out of her home--and alleged that the bad publicity had ruined her business and given her emotional stress.

This lawsuit was used to great effect by the rightwing--as an example of what gunners could do to "fight back" against LEOs. I actually think that's the more important issue, rather than the circumstances of her death which are ironic, and horrifying.

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Open Carry Gun-Toting Mom Shot Dead [View all] workinclasszero Jan 2013 OP

"I'm shocked at the whole thing," Fortna said. "I'm surprised she didn't defend herself." Brickbat Jan 2013 #1

Proof that guns don't . . . ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2013 #2

This happened three years ago. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #3

So that means it doesn't matter? Jakes Progress Jan 2013 #12

Well, I think it's disengeous to post a link suggesting this is a 'new' shooting. In typical Colmes msanthrope Jan 2013 #20

I think it is disingenuous to attack an OP with no point, Jakes Progress Jan 2013 #25

I think the OP should have stated when it happened obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #31

Because.......? Jakes Progress Jan 2013 #35

simply a petulant derailment of the larger point? LanternWaste Jan 2013 #16

Actually, as I've noted, this three year old shooting is far more relevant to current msanthrope Jan 2013 #22

Actually, you didn't not any such thing Jakes Progress Jan 2013 #26

I agree with you about the lawsuit obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #32

I didn't say it wasn't relevant--but I don't think bringing up a three-year old shooting without msanthrope Jan 2013 #34

But don't gun advocates claim... GaYellowDawg Jan 2013 #19

I don't know what gun advocates claim--I tend to ignore them. But I do think the focus on this msanthrope Jan 2013 #21

If you don't know what the gun debate is about Jakes Progress Jan 2013 #27

Sad for the kids alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #4

The thing about some of these gun nuts is that they fantasize about using their guns to stop the Erose999 Jan 2013 #5

Wow, this is lame The Straight Story Jan 2013 #6

Some gunners are stupid. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #11

I imagine that's a convenient way to minimize and trivilaize ... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #18

She wasn't carrying when she was shot FarCenter Jan 2013 #7

I wonder if she lived long enough to be thrilled by the fact that she died by the gun? Aristus Jan 2013 #8

Dated 10/8/2009 Remmah2 Jan 2013 #9

SEE THIS IS WHY WE NEED GUNS, TO PROECT OURSELFS FROM GUNS. IF ONLY SHE HAD A leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #10

Yeah. She needed more guns. Jakes Progress Jan 2013 #14

Maybe if the kids had guns, too, they might have been able to shoot the father . . . leveymg Jan 2013 #13

Losing all their spokespeople Tsiyu Jan 2013 #15

If only she's had a dozen Uzis or so - this never would have happened. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #17

This is so sad and it flies in the face of LaPierre's insane claim. rustydog Jan 2013 #23

It happened over 3 years ago, but the message still stands CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #24

Who had the biggest gun? Coyotl Jan 2013 #28

other similar stories ... napkinz Jan 2013 #29

This happened years ago obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #30

Another example of how a gun in the house is more likely to Live and Learn Jan 2013 #33