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RudynJack

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46. In many people, homosexuality is inborn.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:14 AM
Jan 2013

That doesn't mean it's genetic.

For others, it doesn't appear to be inborn.

The notion of a single "gay gene" that could be detected is silly.

This may bring accusations of trolling- but I'm genuinely curious what the response to this cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #1
Why is sexual orientation any different than gender? Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #5
because gay people will cease to exist if this happens dsc Jan 2013 #14
And you know this how? Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #31
under those circumstances maybe dsc Jan 2013 #43
I think the great bulk of heterosexual parents feel the same way. EOTE Jan 2013 #121
I think the only heterosexual parents who would give a damn and WANT to abort kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #154
Interesting. n/t Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #65
you aren't pro choice anyway CreekDog Jan 2013 #93
Homosexuality is a side-effect of genes that increase fertility. DetlefK Jan 2013 #105
just look at what happened to down syndrome dsc Jan 2013 #129
Genetic proliferation depends on the social feedback. DetlefK Jan 2013 #136
You Are Equating RobinA Jan 2013 #139
Down's has all but disappeared? I never heard that. Interesting. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #140
The syndrome is alive and well. But most Downs babies are probably aborted. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #156
um, NO. why do people make up shit and state it emphatically? bettyellen Jan 2013 #159
Um yes sorry but before you accuse people of making shit up you might dsc Jan 2013 #160
I don't know for sure but I'm guessing people pregnant with a down syndrome baby liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #177
I literally LOL when I read your post snooper2 Jan 2013 #126
No No Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #130
1 in 4 gay kids get kicked out when they tell their parents they are gay dsc Jan 2013 #137
Because it's a deliberate attempt to stamp out a people, a specific group, and it's likely grounded cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #15
How is this in any way true? Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #24
No, it's quite plain what I'm asking- if a person has an abortion motivated cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #32
It is twisted logic. They apparently think that if a "gay gene" were discovered, morningfog Jan 2013 #33
Do you actually think the evangelical's in the van with kids wouldn't do it?? I'm saying it would be cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #41
How would you even know why someone is seeking an abortion? morningfog Jan 2013 #48
It's not going to be widespread and it's also not going to work. Warpy Jan 2013 #69
Maybe because nobody is doing it? aquart Jan 2013 #108
No one has a right to force a woman to have a child obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #166
Abortion is between a woman and her doctor. It's Not Our Business. Even if her "reasons" are MADem Jan 2013 #2
Wow. O_O cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #3
Try reading the Roe v. Wade decision, sometime, there, sparky. nt MADem Jan 2013 #6
* Eye roll. * cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #21
You got that right. MADem Jan 2013 #38
You could try to add something substantive to the discussion EOTE Jan 2013 #122
Why a "wow"? RudynJack Jan 2013 #18
Because, as a gay person it sends chills down my spine. cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #23
Are you a male? morningfog Jan 2013 #34
Don't you presume the worst? Why ever would you do such a thing? MADem Jan 2013 #35
Okay, really? Try to have an honest discussion with someone cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #44
You are not having an honest discussion, and you and I know this. MADem Jan 2013 #66
I wouldn't even read your diatribe- I know damn well what my intentions are and are not, cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #68
Fine. Proudly refuse elucidation. It speaks to your lack of willingness to honestly engage on MADem Jan 2013 #72
Doesn't surprise me. Not reading seems to be your specialty EOTE Jan 2013 #123
Your op is troll flame bait. You are not having an honest discussion Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #119
It's a hypothetical that Rush Limbaugh has been honing for ten years, to try to divide the liberal MADem Jan 2013 #127
I am gay RudynJack Jan 2013 #42
I'm gay Aerows Jan 2013 #74
Co-sign Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #98
Homophobes are generally anti-abortion as well michigandem58 Jan 2013 #134
I wouldn't count on the moral consistancy of abortion opponents dsc Jan 2013 #161
That's my feelings too. Chan790 Jan 2013 #158
I know I cannot speak for anyone, but for me SheilaT Jan 2013 #4
What do you think about making such circumstances illegal though? nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #8
How would this differ from any other pre-natal testing SheilaT Jan 2013 #133
You articulated your sentiments beautifully. MADem Jan 2013 #25
As a gay person I find it highly offensive I can't ask about something, cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #30
I have thought on what you've said--and like I said, I have your number. MADem Jan 2013 #49
If a so-called gay gene is ever found this issue will have to be addressed bluestateguy Jan 2013 #7
^ That's kinda my point. ;) nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #10
The issue has already been addressed. Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #12
Ridiculous. Every word of your post. morningfog Jan 2013 #20
In many people, homosexuality is inborn. RudynJack Jan 2013 #46
That's correct- unless the epigentics study is validated, then it is possible- cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #59
Rush Limbaugh has been "addressing" it for ten years, now. It's a Divide-and-Conquer set-piece with MADem Jan 2013 #96
So you suggest that the mind police determine intent? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #120
I guess I have to address all the people putting words into my mouth bluestateguy Jan 2013 #143
Arguments like this one have been used by the anti-choice movement from the very beginning. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #9
See, that's just a simple way to dodge the morality of what I asked. nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #11
I'm not seeing the moral issue here. Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #19
I'm not advocating anything, I'm asking about circumstances that lead to abortions- cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #22
What do you mean "possible race?" morningfog Jan 2013 #28
Certainly, if that's the woman's choice. Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #36
I just disagree- I think that's wrong, and I think saying its constitutionally protected is a bit of cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #39
I can respect that you disagree... Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #56
I suppose what I'm thinking is that in re-litigation on an issue similar to that, that I could see cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #62
If you are against the abortion of Aerows Jan 2013 #84
Whoa -- so you admit you're anti choice obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #170
How about you keep your grubby Texasgal Jan 2013 #175
"Possible race"?! obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #169
I politely disagree. The anti-choice movement has been throwing hypothetical questions like this one Chorophyll Jan 2013 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #45
There is no morality in deciding to have a medical procedure obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #168
Bingo. It's not your business unless you're the one seeking the procedure. MADem Jan 2013 #29
It is quite simply none of your business why a woman gets an abortion. morningfog Jan 2013 #13
Still a red herring argument. ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #16
No- answer the question, what do you think? It's not trying to subvert anything, cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #26
Some questions imply a desired answer when they are asked by the way they are phased Occulus Jan 2013 #57
No- it's a discussion topic on a discussion forum. nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #64
Why would this very possibly be an issue? Are you saying gay people will want to force woman to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #71
Ok ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #89
It is the womans body, her decision, for whatever reason somehow you seem to think all women would peacebird Jan 2013 #106
Here's What I Think RobinA Jan 2013 #141
Apparently it's just fine no matter what the circumstance. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #17
^+1. Thank you, kind sir, for reason. nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #27
Oh, THAT you consider a reasonable response. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #40
The point is that he's bringing up something that I think many liberals outright dismiss- cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #47
And what point is that? A man's say in an abortion? morningfog Jan 2013 #51
The right to express an opinion without being ramrodded. nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #53
That's what liberals dismiss? That doesn't make sense with the context of the previous posts. morningfog Jan 2013 #54
+1 obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #171
You having a penis Aerows Jan 2013 #78
+1 obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #172
Are you pregnant? blogslut Jan 2013 #50
As a self-identified gay male, I doubt it. morningfog Jan 2013 #52
Then you have nothing to worry about, do you. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #55
I think you meant this for cecilfirefox. And, I agree! morningfog Jan 2013 #60
Oops! You are correct. I'm up too late. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #61
Well, then blogslut Jan 2013 #58
I often tell people I am an astronaut. MADem Jan 2013 #67
Love this. Glad this thread got allowed out and that you help me understand DU better. ancianita Jan 2013 #94
It seems to me that if the entity is regarded as unworthy of any legal status... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2013 #63
I have never heard of a woman seeking an abortion asking her self if the fetus is gay... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #70
This is an old canard, promulgated by Rush Limbaugh for the past seven years, at least. MADem Jan 2013 #75
Well I have no proof for this... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #85
If I were placing a bet, I'd bet the same way you would. MADem Jan 2013 #91
I pity the child of that RW woman... DonViejo Jan 2013 #153
It's shit-stirring Aerows Jan 2013 #87
Yes, it is. MADem Jan 2013 #95
I wish there were a genetic test for shrieking fruitcakes. gkhouston Jan 2013 #124
I'm gay Aerows Jan 2013 #73
if someone has an abortion because they fear the unborn fetus is gay Heather MC Jan 2013 #76
Best answer yet Aerows Jan 2013 #81
The responses in this thread are quite interesting. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #77
Here in the real world, though ... REP Jan 2013 #102
It was a hypothetical question. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #107
I know :-) REP Jan 2013 #109
It is interesting to ponder, but highly unlikely. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #112
Is there a way to tell the fetus is gay? Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #79
It's Faaaab-U-Lous! Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #86
I have a hypothetical. Jenoch Jan 2013 #80
What do you mean "ok"? TDale313 Jan 2013 #92
So what? The choice is still the mother's regardless of the reason LittleBlue Jan 2013 #82
Should we require any woman seeking an abortion to fill out a questionaire first? Hugabear Jan 2013 #83
+1000 TDale313 Jan 2013 #88
there you go. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #90
There's that, then there's the problem of her veracity. sarge43 Jan 2013 #113
Some ideas (like this one) are best examined in the alternative cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #97
I like that angle. Quantess Jan 2013 #150
Brilliant and well thought out response. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #163
Homosexuality would still exist. David__77 Jan 2013 #99
I think this discussion is foundering on what should be legal and what should be ethical. BlueCheese Jan 2013 #100
Abortion because the baby might be ginger Riftaxe Jan 2013 #101
People are getting abortions? MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #103
A woman's right to choose Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #104
Are you asking if there should be a law, or simply whether this is wrong? NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #110
this is an excellent post. thanks. cali Jan 2013 #115
A person’s body is theirs and theirs alone, NO ONE should have the right to stultusporcos Jan 2013 #111
Scrape it if it's gay... diphthong Jan 2013 #114
Pro-choice is pro-choice gollygee Jan 2013 #116
What part of "it is none of your fucking business", pun intended, do you not understand? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #117
Abortion is a very serious subject best left to a woman and her doctor, and NOT.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #118
Only if the fetus is eaten Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #125
Abortions based on fetus's stance on gun control Recursion Jan 2013 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Jan 2013 #131
I'd bet that the "condition" would be treated rather than be cause of an abortion AngryAmish Jan 2013 #132
Ooo, or what if it was because they thought it was really an ALIEN??? Maeve Jan 2013 #135
This is crunchy! What about a male birth control pill... galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #138
I would so like a birth control pill for men- little responsibility goes a long way!! nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #155
It does seem to beg the critical and relevant question LanternWaste Jan 2013 #142
the types that oppose this don't believe this is genetic CreekDog Jan 2013 #144
A womans choice in this matter is personal and is her business. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #145
It is not our business but that doesn't mean we are "okay" with the idea. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #146
But to an authoritarian crackpot okay and legal are synonyms cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #147
Her body, her choice. End of discussion. idwiyo Jan 2013 #148
i don't think it's possible to know that for sure. barbtries Jan 2013 #149
why would you think you'd get any different answer? Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #151
A fetus's PERCEIVED homosexuality? HTH is it perceived? benld74 Jan 2013 #152
They like football and Project Runway? obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #173
I think what a woman chooses to do with her fetus is her business notadmblnd Jan 2013 #157
A woman may use whatever information she has available to choose to have an abortion. joshcryer Jan 2013 #162
It is still no ones business! Texasgal Jan 2013 #164
I'm gay and pro choice. Tien1985 Jan 2013 #165
Forcing a woman to have a child is disgusting obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #167
Women have abortions for good and bad reasons. Arkana Jan 2013 #174
You know...if I was a fundie Christian, I'd think.... Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #176
None of your fucking business. JTFrog Jan 2013 #178
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