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MindandSoul

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8. Your co-payment for each medicare service covered is 20%
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

My husband has been on medicare for about 8 years, and he has had several major surgeries since then. Medicare pays 80% and you are responsible for the other 20%.

However, we chose to take a Medicare supplemental insurance (many types exist, but we took the "cadillac plan" which covers the COMPLETE 20% that Medicare doesn't cover). These can be (depending on the coverage you choose, quite expensive, but well worth it as the needs increase with age.

Let me give you an example and compare this to an "investment."

My husband pays about $55.00 per month for Medicare for a total over the last 8 years of (about) $5,200.
He is also covered by a supplemental insurance that costs us ABOUT $180.00 per month for a total of $16,000 (approximate).

Over the last 8 years, the cost of his health care (including the 4 surgeries) came to close to $200,000 IF HE HAD NO COVERAGE AT ALL. Because he was covered, and medicare has "special rates" for each services, the cost went down to about $100,000 (I.e., this is a rounded figure to make the calculation easier).

Medicare paid 80% of that which came to $80,000
The private supplemental insurance covered 20% of that which came to $20,000

Now. . .which "investment" do you think would be the smartest?

Investing $5,200 and saving $80,000?
or
Investing $16,000 and saving $20,000?

Now, please note that both are "good investment," but . . .when you look at it that way, you can see WHY Medicare is in trouble (pays too much for too low a fee, for people who, because of aging, will ONLY have greater needs in the future), but we keep on complaining about medicare not "being efficient!"

While we praise private health care industry for being "more efficient" than the government. . .but the only reason they are more efficient is because they charge A LOT MORE for A LOT LESS coverage!

I have always wonder why Medicare doesn't offer an option to reimburse 100% of the cost of care for people over 65 at a cost of (let's say), $100.00 extra dollars per month (for a total of $155.00 per month, you would have 100% of your health care need paid for by Medicare)

This could TRIPLE the entry in Medicare funding, AND would take away the co-payment paid by the elderly for a much smaller pay out.

In the case of my husband, for example, it would look like this:

Over the last 8 years, instead of paying $5,200 to Medicare AND $16,000 to a private insurance (for a total of $21,200)
We would have paid, $13, 200 to Medicare alone.

AND, obviously, Medicare would have paid received $13,200 INSTEAD of $5,200
and would have disbursed $100,000 instead of $80,000

Both party (My husband AND Medicare) would have greatly benefited from that arrangement. . .the only party left out of this "win/win" situation would have been. . . Private health care insurance covering the Medicare supplement!

Well I will be using my Medicare for the first time tommorrow. I got a book. But I have to southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #1
Some, sort of, answers underpants Jan 2013 #2
Medicare Part B spartan61 Jan 2013 #3
my husband is also on medicare. ReformedGOPer Jan 2013 #31
Whew boy, are you in for a shock! Glitterati Jan 2013 #4
That is good advice, thanks democrattotheend Jan 2013 #5
Our first hand experience Glitterati Jan 2013 #11
Wow, I am so sorry democrattotheend Jan 2013 #16
Oh, they do. Glitterati Jan 2013 #18
BTW, here's annother FYI for you Glitterati Jan 2013 #33
Not necessarily stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #53
At what age, though? Glitterati Jan 2013 #58
51 now stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #64
doctors accepting Medicare fees yellowdogintexas Jan 2013 #51
Well, actually you just need to make sure the doctor accepts Medicare. If he/she does then you are Democrat 4 Ever Jan 2013 #34
Not this Doctor Glitterati Jan 2013 #36
There's a difference between accepting Medicare and accepting assignment. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #67
I see...however, Glitterati Jan 2013 #69
Yeah, I get it. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #70
You have to get a doctor/hospital that accepts assignment Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #66
My experience Old Codger Jan 2013 #6
I have Kaiser REP Jan 2013 #7
I'm thinking about Kaiser. silverweb Jan 2013 #60
I've been very happy with it REP Jan 2013 #61
Thank you! silverweb Jan 2013 #62
Your co-payment for each medicare service covered is 20% MindandSoul Jan 2013 #8
Interesting. I am actually proposing the opposite in my paper democrattotheend Jan 2013 #15
Can you document your statement that diaper companies are virgogal Jan 2013 #45
Sure, here's my source democrattotheend Jan 2013 #46
Thank you very much---I'll read it tomorrow--getting late here in the East. virgogal Jan 2013 #47
MandS, this is pure Single Payer system that I was protesting for back in 2009. ancianita Jan 2013 #68
wow dhol82 Jan 2013 #9
I had an endocrinologist refuse to treat me as a Medicare patient and virgogal Jan 2013 #10
Most doctors in Georgia refuse Medicare and Medicaid patients Glitterati Jan 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #30
My refusal was at a teaching hospital in MA. All of my friends are virgogal Jan 2013 #44
I'm guessing Glitterati Jan 2013 #50
Terrific guess---I'm in MA. virgogal Jan 2013 #65
Get a supplement. Yes, the 20% is hanging out there. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #13
IF you can afford it. Glitterati Jan 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #17
Already there. Glitterati Jan 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #26
Medicare didn't deny the tests. Glitterati Jan 2013 #27
It's been a good deal for my grandpa democrattotheend Jan 2013 #23
That's because the Medicare premiums are heavily subsidized democrattotheend Jan 2013 #19
Regardless Glitterati Jan 2013 #21
Not necessarily democrattotheend Jan 2013 #24
Those are the facts Glitterati Jan 2013 #25
I meant not necessarily as in those with limited incomes should not necessarily buy them democrattotheend Jan 2013 #28
I think what you are missing is this Glitterati Jan 2013 #29
I understand that democrattotheend Jan 2013 #32
Trust me, no ONE is detached from the cost of their care Glitterati Jan 2013 #35
Those with Medicare and supplemental are detached democrattotheend Jan 2013 #38
That's simply not fair Glitterati Jan 2013 #39
I am trying to propose ways to lower costs for everyone democrattotheend Jan 2013 #41
Your assumption is simply WRONG, though Glitterati Jan 2013 #42
Here's an example of what I am talking about democrattotheend Jan 2013 #43
You're STILL blaming the wrong party Glitterati Jan 2013 #48
Here's what is needed Glitterati Jan 2013 #49
Don't like that. Downwinder Jan 2013 #56
My husband's pension withholds $300 from his monthly check Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #40
I have Medicare A and B plus a supplemental policy and Part D Downwinder Jan 2013 #22
When I had cataract/cornea surgery last year, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #37
I don't know if this has been said here bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #52
My 82 year old mother has a medicare advantage plan...... mrmpa Jan 2013 #57
i just got medicare 6/12 when my husband DesertFlower Jan 2013 #54
The supplemental is really not a supplemental bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #71
yes. it is. DesertFlower Jan 2013 #73
Oh My, They sure do make it all so easy. It's all bull if you ask me. Single Payer Now !! YOHABLO Jan 2013 #55
HR 676 Single Payer Now Agreed! bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #72
Medicare is a blessing for us Thirties Child Jan 2013 #59
info on supplemental insurance 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #63
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