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still_one

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8. Actually what Rachel brought up was the Army has their own set of rules as evidenced by the tail

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:00 AM

Jan 2013

Gate scandals. As far as gates, he may not of Been a legislator, but he expressed that he agreed with the presidents positions on gays in the military. Sure, it might have been because that is his job to agree, however, if he had a real problem with it he would have resigned

Remember SOS Cyrus Vance, he resigned after jimmy carter tried to rescue the hostages because his position was that such thing should be negotiated

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Rachel discussed hagel's past position against abortion even in the case of rape, and gay rights [View all] still_one Jan 2013 OP

What's Gates' position? TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1

Don't know but he seemed to follow the Presidents lead still_one Jan 2013 #3

Gates wasn't a legislator, so no one really knows. The point is, it doesn't matter. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #5

Actually what Rachel brought up was the Army has their own set of rules as evidenced by the tail still_one Jan 2013 #8

In the case of something that affects all military personnel, stuff like that TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #13

example rachal used was that preventing military hospitals from performing abortions. Is that up to still_one Jan 2013 #16

I would think so. I can't imagine a decision like that coming from TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #20

Tailhook was NAVY. ABERDEEN was Army. It all percolated up to DOD. There are a number of DOD MADem Jan 2013 #15

Who controls what medical procedures, like abortions, military hospitals perform? still_one Jan 2013 #17

CONGRESS. MADem Jan 2013 #19

ok, thanks for the information still_one Jan 2013 #21

If there's money involved, or law, it's all down to Congress. MADem Jan 2013 #22

Bingo. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #27

Great point. n/t godai Jan 2013 #29

Dennis Kucinich used to have those same positions frazzled Jan 2013 #2

I am not sure if Kucinich even opposed it in case of rape, and I don't think he ever had issues with still_one Jan 2013 #4

He used to be very anti-abortion Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #9

I should have made my point more explicit frazzled Jan 2013 #12

Kucinich used to be a RABID pro-lifer, until it didn't play well nationally. MADem Jan 2013 #14

I know when someone mentions Chuck Hagel Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #30

O.... K..... defacto7 Jan 2013 #6

Rachel's point was that it would be interesting still_one Jan 2013 #10

Rachel's just trying to stir the pot Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #24

And she is right. bemildred Jan 2013 #28

Let's get him in front of a Senate Committee and let him answer. People do change. nt MADem Jan 2013 #7

I am not arguing for or against, but it does make it worth paying attention to see exactly what the still_one Jan 2013 #11

And that was exactly Rachel's point - she said she can't wait for the confirmation hearings! bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #31

how does abortion relate to his Secretary of Defense job? BainsBane Jan 2013 #18

this worries me, too. Who knows if he's evolved on abortion rights even tho he CTyankee Jan 2013 #23

Please read this statement from the executive director of the Service Women's Action Network. Heidi Jan 2013 #25

Hagel can't shift Congress if they don't want to be shifted, and that's just the truth. MADem Jan 2013 #34

Rachel discussed exactly how this relates. She brought up a brand-new policy implemented bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #32

They still aren't covered in most instances...and that's Congress's fault, not Obama's. MADem Jan 2013 #35

Actually that was not the flast time but Inuca Jan 2013 #36

I agree with you.If this was before reelection he wouldn't have picked him. SummerSnow Jan 2013 #26

Let's just hope that President Obama "had a word" with Hagel on this issue CTyankee Jan 2013 #33

Hagel isn't the decider on this matter. Congress is. MADem Jan 2013 #37

I know that it is. My concern was that Hagel could have some latitude CTyankee Jan 2013 #38

I've never known a SECDEF (and I have known a few of them down the years) who MADem Jan 2013 #39

I think you nailed it, brother pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #40