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80. What I don't think you realize is that I carry a legally concealed weapon as a ....
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:04 PM
Jan 2013

last resort for the slim possibility that I might have to use it against an attacker who seriously intends to severely injure or kill me and has the ability to do so.

While the chances of this ever happening are somewhere around slim to none, it still could happen.

I'll use some dated statistics from 1987 to back up my point. I really don't see a reason to waste too much of my time on this post as I will not change your views. Admittedly our society is somewhat safer than it was in 1987 for many reasons and one of those may be the spread of "shall issue" concealed carry which became law in October of 1987 in Florida. You may argue that the spread of concealed carry across our nation had little effect on the crime rate but I will point out that it didn't cause the crime rate to increase substantially.


83% TO BE VICTIMS OF CRIME VIOLENCE
Special to the New York Times
Published: March 09, 1987


Eighty-three percent of 12-year-old children in the United States will be victims or intended victims of violent crimes at least once in their lifetimes, the Justice Department reported today. Fifty-two percent will be victims of such crimes more than once.

Using figures compiled by the Government's National Crime Survey from 1975 through 1984, the department has calculated for the first time an individual's chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in his or her lifetime.

***snip***

Men are more likely to be violently assaulted than women, the study found. Eighty-nine percent of 12-year-old boys can expect to become victims of violent crimes, as against 73 percent for girls. Nearly one in four men will be robbed, but only one out of five women.

***snip***

Almost 3 out of 4 households will be burglarized at least once in a 20-year period, and theft without forcible entry will occur in 9 out of 10 homes. Urban households have a 93 percent of being burglarized, and rural homes 82 percent.
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/09/us/83-to-be-victims-of-crime-violence.html


Now if some street thug comes up to me and asks for my wallet, I will evaluate him. If I seriously believe that all he wants is the wallet I will give it to him. I can always replace my money, my credit cards and my ID but I can't replace my health or my life easily.

But if the attacker is acting in a manner that indicates that he is going to beat the crap out of me or injure or kill me with a weapon, I will use my own weapon to try to stop his attack. I am 66 years old with a bad back and a hip that needs replaced. I have lost most of the martial arts skills that I learned 20 years ago and I have no desire to try to defeat a much younger and far more physically fit person as I doubt that I would be successful.

People differ. You may feel that I am excessively paranoid. I don't expect my house to burn down but I have fire alarms and extinguishers available. I wear a seat belt when I drive five blocks to the grocery store. I have an emergency medical kit in my home and car. I have a NOAA weather radio to alert me to an approaching tornado.

My own personal life experiences have taught me that it is often better to be prepared than to feel that nothing bad will ever happen to me.

Considering that I have been target shooting handguns for over 40 years on a regular basis it is not surprising that I carry a very light and compact revolver with me. Most of the regular shooters that I know here in Florida do the same.

If I were as paranoid as you feel I would carry one of my 1911 .45ACP pistols with me as they are far more effective at stopping an attack than the mouse gun I do carry. Since I have no real fear of ever being attacked my .38 snub nosed revolver is more than adequate and is very easy to conceal and comfortable to carry.







She would have been safe had she been armed. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #1
No, seriesly! Her gun could, had she bin packin ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2013 #7
Hell yeah. She coulda taught him a lesson for shootin' her, alright. freshwest Jan 2013 #21
No shirt, no shoes, no sidearm, no service Electric Monk Jan 2013 #29
This liberalmike27 Jan 2013 #30
lol n/t Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #53
Ziiiinnnnggg! LOL!! nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #84
Well waddya know??? elleng Jan 2013 #2
"He reached in his pocket and accidentally discharged a weapon in his pocket" rightsideout Jan 2013 #3
... LisaLynne Jan 2013 #5
Damn. I am glad that I don't live in Kansas, Oklahoma or the South. As a result, I bluestate10 Jan 2013 #85
Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #4
There is a reason they make holsters. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #6
What!? Holsters are the solution? longship Jan 2013 #9
Correct, you don't get it. I will explain it. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #10
But can he conceal it in his pocket if it's in a holster? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #12
They make holsters specifically for that purpose. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #15
Sounds like an appropriate anniversary gift from his wife. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #16
Could be the only thing she gives him for a loooonnng time. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #44
Yes. I carry a snub nosed .38 caliber revolver in a pocket holster ... spin Jan 2013 #23
When? bongbong Jan 2013 #54
So he can look gangsta' Kolesar Jan 2013 #60
I have responded to you numerous times ... spin Jan 2013 #70
OK! bongbong Jan 2013 #71
Since I am not an important person ... spin Jan 2013 #77
Gotta give it to you bongbong Jan 2013 #78
What I don't think you realize is that I carry a legally concealed weapon as a .... spin Jan 2013 #80
Hmmmmmm bongbong Jan 2013 #86
Thanks for your polite reply. ... spin Jan 2013 #87
They have pocket holsters obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #58
The holster would be a good step bongbong Jan 2013 #62
If you walked up to me on the street ... spin Jan 2013 #72
I get it! Idiots with guns in public with HOLSTERS! And everything will magically be fine forever. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #14
Not for everything, but for this case, yes. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #17
So, more laws, like safeinOhio Jan 2013 #19
That would be a radical interpretation of what I wrote. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #22
Unless you mandate the use of such holsters, what you've said is fairly worthless. EOTE Jan 2013 #39
I don't see the need for any such law. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #41
So what you've said is utterly worthless. EOTE Jan 2013 #43
Laws only work if they are enforced. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #45
There ARE no current laws that would have prevented that idiot from shooting his wife. EOTE Jan 2013 #46
It might have helped if the idiot in question weren't an idiot in the first place. Bake Jan 2013 #48
Sure, but do you suggest a law outlawing idiots? EOTE Jan 2013 #59
Sheesh! The problem is people carrying loaded weapons! longship Jan 2013 #24
Unloaded ones are not very effective... Coyote_Tan Jan 2013 #34
Ah, the light bulb finally went on. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #73
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Zoeisright Jan 2013 #27
Holsters are answer to world peace. Didn't you know that? Lint Head Jan 2013 #28
LOL ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #31
However there is no doubt that holsters do prevent many gun accidents. ... spin Jan 2013 #74
You have to pull the trigger? Now why didn't someone explain that to us a long time ago! A Simple Game Jan 2013 #33
That is one hypothesis. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #36
Also the safety would have been covered... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #64
No, the gun went off because the idiot was carrying it and was too stupid to keep his hands off. Hoyt Jan 2013 #65
Do they know what kind of weapon this was? digonswine Jan 2013 #68
Why does this remind me of Barney Fife? Neoma Jan 2013 #50
Too bad he didn't scramble his own eggs NBachers Jan 2013 #8
Its her fault BootinUp Jan 2013 #11
Sounds like she married the wrong guy. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #13
Ha, I know I'll never walk up to the bar and ask for a shot again! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #81
I can understand the ownership/management Jenoch Jan 2013 #18
I support IQ tests for gun ownership. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #20
another gun incident samsingh Jan 2013 #25
No fucking duh. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #26
That's the chance you take with concealed carry. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #32
There are some people who carry 24-7 ecstatic Jan 2013 #35
You have no need to imagine what is not there. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #37
The need for a civilian to carry 24/7 - Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2013 #38
You have an odd definition of "paranoid". ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #40
"beating the odds and never needing a weapon to defend themselves" ieoeja Jan 2013 #49
Any chance you could link to those stats? Democratic_Al Jan 2013 #52
The greatest amount of mental illness in America bongbong Jan 2013 #55
Having to go to the Kansas omelette shop armed is paranoia...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #63
You can never be too prepared! bongbong Jan 2013 #66
I think I'll fix some dinner Kolesar Jan 2013 #67
Stay safe! bongbong Jan 2013 #69
. ecstatic Jan 2013 #88
Common sense? ecstatic Jan 2013 #57
A friend ewagner Jan 2013 #56
That was exactly George Zimmerman's attitude. He obviously WANTED a chance tblue37 Jan 2013 #83
Hero syndrome? n/t ewagner Jan 2013 #89
It may take a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun, but how do you stop jmg257 Jan 2013 #42
If a restaurant allows concealed weapons, how're they going to know one way or the other? Buns_of_Fire Jan 2013 #47
He wasn't trying to wing her bongbong Jan 2013 #51
Bloody Kansas...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #61
I bet their liability insurance just skyrocketed with this event. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #75
With concealed weapons being just that - concealed - lynne Jan 2013 #76
****UPDATE**** proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #79
To me, that's the problem with weapons that are too handy. Fumbling by accident which RKP5637 Jan 2013 #82
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