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pipoman

(16,038 posts)
90. Silly tantrums is what will result in no answers.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jan 2013

You know nothing about what I want, and /or believe are even possible constitutionally without a constitutional amendment. I have posted my beliefs about private sales here. To say, "Private gun sales are not subject to background checks because gun companies profit from Selling guns to criminals.", doesn't even make sense. Private sales are always and only used gun sales. How do the gun companies benefit from people selling their used guns to other private citizens of the sellers home state? They don't, therefore why would they care?

Even 70% of NRA members want that changed, but you are to the right of them. The NRA restricts the enforcement of law, prohibits tracking of guns, and restricts the first amendment.

It can be changed, and I have often stated I would support a change. It must be done constitutionally and the "commerce clause" has always been what has kept the issue from making it out of committee to the floor even when the committee is chaired by Democrats. The first step is enabling a process for background checks on private sales. No such process currently exists. Most states, especially in the current financial climate, will be willing to fund a background check system in their state for private sales. They can do that now, and only a couple fund it. The system is in place, NICS, just access to the system is flawed.

You stated in post #79 "Gun research has been illegal in this nation for decades.", I simply pointed out that this statement is patently false.

No, what is going to keep solutions from being reached is people in real life hitting the ignore button rather than reasoned discussion, and presentation of outright lies and misinformation as truth, and proposals of complete and total disregard for constitutional possibility...there is common ground, it isn't going to come without respectful dialog.

They don't spray former-republican Jan 2013 #1
They are quite cabable of doing that. Kaleva Jan 2013 #24
after being modified, I would be surprised if hunters did this Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #27
They are clearly used for hunting children, where the meat isn't being kept. Robb Jan 2013 #2
Spot On - Well Said! cantbeserious Jan 2013 #4
Of course no one from the gunner camp wants to talk about this. Robb Jan 2013 #22
Well - Using Johnathan Swift As A Model - All Gun Owners Could Be Required To Eat Gun Crime Victims cantbeserious Jan 2013 #23
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #88
there is no "spray" of bullets geek_sabre Jan 2013 #3
and you can pull the trigger 2 - 3 times per second intaglio Jan 2013 #13
Depends on your proficiency. geek_sabre Jan 2013 #18
I have shot deer with a semi-auto. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #21
yes Go Vols Jan 2013 #5
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Yes. Since they only fire 1 round for each trigger pull, there is no difference jmg257 Jan 2013 #7
Semi automatics Oneka Jan 2013 #8
We have a few semi-auto hunting rifles madville Jan 2013 #9
"Spray of bullets" from a semiautomatic? You have a lot to learn about guns hobbit709 Jan 2013 #10
Why? BainsBane Jan 2013 #49
It has nothing to do with killing. It has to do with the mechanical operation of a machine. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #50
A machine that kills BainsBane Jan 2013 #51
So you don't let facts get in the way or your prejudices. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #53
And? BainsBane Jan 2013 #56
If you are against A and not B and can't differentiate between the two that is your problem. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #58
You response positions yourself as an extremist BainsBane Jan 2013 #59
Now you sound even more ludicrous. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #73
I asked you if that was the case BainsBane Jan 2013 #77
By not understanding the subject pipoman Jan 2013 #65
so your solution is that we should all spent our time BainsBane Jan 2013 #68
I don't care what you do... pipoman Jan 2013 #70
I'll be satisfied when the rate of gun violence goes down BainsBane Jan 2013 #72
Do you care about violence in general, or is "gun violence" pipoman Jan 2013 #74
of course BainsBane Jan 2013 #79
Existing laws aren't being enforced pipoman Jan 2013 #86
Enough BainsBane Jan 2013 #87
Silly tantrums is what will result in no answers. pipoman Jan 2013 #90
Semi-automatics are used for hunting and don't spray bullets Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #11
Yes, especially shotguns. Drahthaardogs Jan 2013 #12
The difference in accuracy between a bolt & semi-auto is academic in the field. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #25
Maybe, Drahthaardogs Jan 2013 #26
Yes, those hunting situations are entirely different from short-range brush-busting. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #39
My semi-auto is actually my most accurate rifle sir pball Jan 2013 #40
Yes, but not in that manner. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #14
If you never enjoyed the challenge of cutting down a running rabbit with a 22 semi Ligyron Jan 2013 #15
For many years, both shotguns and rifles ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #16
Yes. tradecenter Jan 2013 #17
by cowards or butchers maybe samsingh Jan 2013 #19
I think the OP was asking for actual facts and evidence..... PavePusher Jan 2013 #71
of course. thanks for the consistency. samsingh Jan 2013 #76
"Varmint" Hunting guns....I was familiar with. Evasporque Jan 2013 #28
This is my varmint rifle of choice tularetom Jan 2013 #78
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #29
He asked a question. He got answers. hack89 Jan 2013 #36
99Forever is no longer able to respond in this thread. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #38
Yes I use my semi auto shotgun for hunting. stumpremover462 Jan 2013 #30
Yes, but I don't much care for semi-autos for hunting... Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2013 #31
For close to 200 years, they have... derby378 Jan 2013 #32
I could see using a semi-auto with open sights hunting in heavily wooded or brushy country. brewens Jan 2013 #33
With all respect... Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2013 #43
For almost a hundred years. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #34
Semi autos do not spray obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #35
Well, thanks for show the world that your are 100% ignorant on just what semi-auto means. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #37
It's only a "spray" if you.. sir pball Jan 2013 #41
Yes, there is no spray, yes, no. krispos42 Jan 2013 #42
When you learn what "semi-automatic" means your questions will answer themselves cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #44
Yes, probably more often than not. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #45
yes, especially shotguns for small game hunting arely staircase Jan 2013 #46
As others have suggested, it varies a lot based on the "kind" of hunting you're doing. Xithras Jan 2013 #47
Learn about guns, seriously hootinholler Jan 2013 #48
Written like a person that knows absolutely nothing about firearms. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #52
Yes, yes they are nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #54
real hunters use a bow and arrow firehorse Jan 2013 #55
They're really useful for small birds like quail or doves Shrek Jan 2013 #57
I prefer a bolt action to a semi-auto when hunting. Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #60
So 75% of gun owners LWolf Jan 2013 #61
Target shooting? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #62
I guess. LWolf Jan 2013 #63
My entire family shoots hack89 Jan 2013 #64
Okay. LWolf Jan 2013 #69
It's a skill thing, quite Zen as well, is the point for me. sir pball Jan 2013 #82
That's good to know. LWolf Jan 2013 #85
We're not all homocidal wercal Jan 2013 #80
I know there are olympic shooting events, lol. LWolf Jan 2013 #84
I use the best tool I have for the job. sir pball Jan 2013 #83
no datasuspect Jan 2013 #66
Yep pipoman Jan 2013 #67
Yes. They don't spray. Yes. No. Seriously (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #75
Here is a video that gives conclusive evidence that semi-autos are used for hunting. Undismayed Jan 2013 #81
Hogs are a literal plague on the land sir pball Jan 2013 #89
Many are shot around here and left for the buzzards an varmints madville Jan 2013 #92
Yes, seriously SpartanDem Jan 2013 #91
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