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madokie

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11. I'm not a climate denier

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:25 PM

Jan 2013

by any stretch of the imagination but I have a problem with the ocean rising three feet. What I'm saying is I don't see that there is that much ice to melt. Where is all this water? Someone help me out here

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'Horrible' Sea Level Rise Of More Than 3 Feet Plausible By 2100, Experts Say - NBC [View all] WillyT Jan 2013 OP

Most everyone on DU will be dead riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #1

Speak for yourself. I'm going cyborg. dawg Jan 2013 #3

I'm Going Cyborg With A Hover-Craft Option WillyT Jan 2013 #4

hover-crafts are so 90s, you might as well wear paisley. I'm going stealth drone! nilram Jan 2013 #27

No need NoOneMan Jan 2013 #7

After the cataclysm - Cher, likely. closeupready Jan 2013 #53

try less than 50 years datasuspect Jan 2013 #2

I think so too. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #24

I say less than that even. glinda Jan 2013 #25

Yup...I agree...every dire prediction has had to be revised to a nearer date.. truebrit71 Jan 2013 #38

Not quite 100% accurate, btw. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #52

According to some we are looking at an ice free summer arctic by 2015...not the next 15 years truebrit71 Jan 2013 #65

This summer all the continental shelf area was open; but will the deep arctic area thaw as fast? FarCenter Jan 2013 #68

Peter Wadhams is the only person I know of that has pegged 2015 as the year. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #74

I have to agree. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #76

A little water aint so bad NoOneMan Jan 2013 #5

If these predictions are as accurate as past climate predictions Speck Tater Jan 2013 #6

exactly right librechik Jan 2013 #8

Need boats Bette Jan 2013 #30

exactly stuntcat Jan 2013 #9

Maybe this is why they try to deny it all of the time. glinda Jan 2013 #26

Yup that's the part most people don't get. Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #36

Maybe, but it's not likely. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #50

maybe we'll call a meeting to discuss how to develop a plan to hold a summit to convene the leading stuntcat Jan 2013 #10

I'm not a climate denier madokie Jan 2013 #11

Here Ya Go... WillyT Jan 2013 #13

Thank you madokie Jan 2013 #16

Melting ice floes won't contribute to sea rise. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #17

Ummm... The West Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Different... WillyT Jan 2013 #18

Thats not floating ice. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #21

Yeah... The Part That Is Sittting On The Seabed Will Not Cause Sea Levels To Rise, But... WillyT Jan 2013 #22

The ice sitting on the seabed will cause the ocean to rise if it melts, since its not floating. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #32

Ice that is resting on the sea bed is there because the volume of ice .. Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #39

Yes, exactly. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #45

I think you're wasting your time with this one... progressoid Jan 2013 #55

Yup... truebrit71 Jan 2013 #67

No - HooptieWagon understands the physics, and said muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #77

I'm In Earnest Here... WillyT Jan 2013 #82

(a) HooptieWagon said that ice on land would raise sea level when it melts muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #84

If You Say So... I Guess All These Guys Are Wrong Then... WillyT Jan 2013 #86

Well, to take the first result from that search muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #101

Ice is only half the issue . . . Ultraviolet Cat Jan 2013 #14

Hadn't thought of that, thanks madokie Jan 2013 #15

I don't think so. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #33

While it can't have the really big effects of land ice melting, it could still be significant muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #78

OK, I just did some rough calculations. HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #80

Okay, but this could be very problematic for some areas. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #51

Given that there are already areas that need to rebuild 18 feet higher, does 3 more make a differenc FarCenter Jan 2013 #12

yes, why wouldn't it? CreekDog Jan 2013 #35

3 feet is not much compared with other causes of sea level variation FarCenter Jan 2013 #40

a 3 foot rise in sea level matters CreekDog Jan 2013 #41

Bay of Fundy has a tidal range of 57 feet FarCenter Jan 2013 #42

tides are not "sea level" CreekDog Jan 2013 #43

What matters is how high the water gets - tides, surge, waves and sea level rise combined FarCenter Jan 2013 #44

Most people do not live next to the Bay of Fundy OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #48

What a bunch of hand waving! No data on damages, cost of mitigation, cost of barriers, cost of moves FarCenter Jan 2013 #61

True enough! OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #63

Frequency of Sandy-like flooding will depend on the weather; Bangladesh is screwed in any case. FarCenter Jan 2013 #64

Bangladesh is not an appropriate place to have a country. OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #66

The UN projects that Bangladesh population rises to 270 million by 2075. FarCenter Jan 2013 #70

“…another 3 feet does not enlarge the flood plain a lot…” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #69

Those people are already in the FEMA flood plain. FarCenter Jan 2013 #71

Uh huh OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #73

Costs are in the next section, 6.5 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #79

i've decided to talk about your posts in Environment and Energy CreekDog Jan 2013 #60

you said "Fundy" CreekDog Jan 2013 #75

Three feet would make a difference to Wildwood, NJ and other coastal towns. PADemD Jan 2013 #54

South of Great Egg Harbor, everything east of the Garden State Parkway is in a FEMA flood zone FarCenter Jan 2013 #58

Its the straw that can break the camel's back NoOneMan Jan 2013 #57

So you need to build the sea walls 3 feet higher -- how high are they now? FarCenter Jan 2013 #59

They'll likely be too hungry to give a shit NoOneMan Jan 2013 #62

It''s not just rebuilding GliderGuider Jan 2013 #56

planet should be cooling soon uncommonCents Jan 2013 #19

Come back when you can stay longer. lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #23

Monkton sounds legit mahina Jan 2013 #28

Yeah, Monckton's an idiot. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #47

I'm sorry, but no, just no. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #49

Reversion to the mean, totally normal. galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #20

hoo boy. Here it comes. We're on an island... mahina Jan 2013 #29

Displacement 4Q2u2 Jan 2013 #31

I guess we all owe Kevin Costner an apology. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #34

when it happens within 5 years then they'll say the models weren't good enough lunatica Jan 2013 #37

Not quite all, TBH. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #46

I was exaggerating lunatica Jan 2013 #96

Well, okay. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #99

No problem! lunatica Jan 2013 #100

this is a truly frightening prospect nyliberal59255sd Jan 2013 #72

welcome to DU RobertEarl Jan 2013 #81

Are you really saying that Antartica's only been the way it is for 1,000 years? AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #83

That's what the map layed out RobertEarl Jan 2013 #88

No, 34 million years ago muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #85

The map I saw was from 1500's RobertEarl Jan 2013 #87

Bob, Antarctica wasn't even discovered until the late 18th Century. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #91

Hahaha, that's a funny joke RobertEarl Jan 2013 #94

Wait - are you being serious? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #103

I'll withhold judgment Release The Hounds Jan 2013 #89

Who cares? We'll all be dead by then. geomon666 Jan 2013 #90

Please tell me you're just being sarcastic.....n/t AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #92

I am but I hate putting in the tag. geomon666 Jan 2013 #97

I guess that does make sense. n/t AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #98

What could disappear? Agschmid Jan 2013 #93

That's a bummer, man. raouldukelives Jan 2013 #95

Well, I am not going to worry about it now. RebelOne Jan 2013 #102

You don't think that your grandkids will be alive in 87 years? yardwork Jan 2013 #104

How about a little entertainment on the topic, as we wait before the deluge... DreamGypsy Jan 2013 #105

so, they think I should not rebuild the beach house? hollysmom Jan 2013 #106